Picked up a Walther P22, need info.


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Airburst
January 17, 2010, 03:44 PM
I just picked one up for a decent price, has the box, laser, a custom made holster and ammo. Only about 300 rounds through. Any quirks I need to know about? The previous owner said it was particular about the ammo it would feed and shoot. I'm thinking it isn't even broken in yet. Only came with one magazine. Thanks for your input.

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atblis
January 17, 2010, 03:47 PM
Quirks. :) Yeah, they sometimes have some.

People generally find that the higher velocity CCI 22 lr offering work best. Minimags perhaps.

There's a P22 bible that some find useful.
http://www.freespeech.com/1917-1911M_P22_bible.pdf

Yo Mama
January 17, 2010, 03:49 PM
With bulk ammo, I always had a problem with feeding properly. With CCI, like the stingers or velocitors, no problems.

Great gun, but if you search they are made with pot metal basically. There was a posting here of a broken slide that made me worry a bit. You getting the laser is extra cool also.

Bottom line, it's no MKII.

Airburst
January 17, 2010, 04:07 PM
Thanks for the replies so far. I will be field stripping and cleaning it in the next few days. I have CCI blazer and a few boxes of assorted manufacturers lying around and will be testing all when I take it shooting.

Phydeaux642
January 17, 2010, 04:08 PM
Mine had problems right out of the box. Had to have a new barrel put in it. It seemed to feed the Federal bulk okay but didn't like the Remington bulk. Not very accurate, either. I just traded mine for a Colt Trooper MK III .22 (I had to add some cash).

DeepSouth
January 17, 2010, 05:03 PM
On your Magazine it will have a number, that number will have the letter A or the letter B in it, at the end if I remember right. The ones with the B where problematic, if you can find one with the A it might help with your problems.

The problems my P22 had were unsolvable, so I sold it. Hope you have better luck than I did.

Airburst
January 17, 2010, 05:21 PM
DeepSouth
On your Magazine it will have a number, that number will have the letter A or the letter B in it, at the end if I remember right. The ones with the B where problematic, if you can find one with the A it might help with your problems.

The problems my P22 had were unsolvable, so I sold it. Hope you have better luck than I did.
Great! The more I read this thread, the more I am regretting this impulse buy. It is a B magazine. I plan on saving the link that was posted on how to fix some of the typical trouble areas and perhaps salvage this friggin thing. And I haven't even shot the gun and I am hating it already. :cuss:

Yo Mama
January 17, 2010, 05:42 PM
Just because it has a or b on it doesn't matter. Take it out, shoot it, let us know how it goes, and we'll go from there. It's a nice gun for what it is, and should do you just fine.

The most important thing on these p22s is the ammo you use IMO.

lexjj
January 17, 2010, 07:22 PM
I'm pretty sure you have the magazine story backwards.

The original magazines had no letter. The 2nd generation mags had A, and the latest and best performing mags have B.

Federal Auto Match is the best bulk ammo for my P22. Mini Mags work well too.

The P22 bible is a good reference, and you should also checkout rimfirecentral.

DeepSouth
January 17, 2010, 08:36 PM
I'm pretty sure you have the magazine story backwards.

The original magazines had no letter. The 2nd generation mags had A, and the latest and best performing mags have B.

Federal Auto Match is the best bulk ammo for my P22. Mini Mags work well too.

The P22 bible is a good reference, and you should also checkout rimfirecentral.

You are probably right, I was remembering THIS (http://www.pistolsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=16890) review, and they said
"The first generation magazines did not feed correctly. Make sure you get a magazine with the letter A in the part number etched on the mag."
That was about all I remembered. Then I found the following quote.


There are three revisions of the Walther P22 magazine as the original design was prone to feed failures. Walther corrected the issue by modifying the feed ears and adding a short 3/8" slot which allows rounds to stagger as they approach the top of the magazine. The second version of the magazine is designated with an 'A' after the part number. Later versions of the 'A' magazine have an elongated 1" stagger slot which further improves the magazine's performance. Finally Walther has released a 'B' version which is made of thicker steel, has a tall spring retaining nub and retains the 1" stagger slot

I'm fairly sure you are correct, the "A" & "B" mags are apparently the same other than their thickness, so the "B" mags would probably be better. My personal experience was that my P22 wouldn't run regardless of what mag I put in it, I will add it did do "better" with the CCI Stingers.

Lakeshore
January 17, 2010, 09:42 PM
P22 is a great little gun, wouldn't part with mine for anything.

Three easy things you can do to make it perform better: 1) don't try to feed it cheap ammo as someone already noted, mine will only cycle MiniMags; 2) keep the barrel nut tight, it can and will work loose; 3) whenever you remove the slide check the "stove bolt" (part #5 in the owners manual) on the right side of the frame above the trigger, it too can and will work loose and interfere with slide movement. Good luck.

DammitBoy
January 17, 2010, 09:54 PM
I love my little P22, never had any issues with it.

Why would you start hating a gun before you even shot it based on internet gossip? ={

Airburst
January 17, 2010, 10:16 PM
Why would you start hating a gun before you even shot it based on internet gossip?
Ordinarily not, but when I read more negatives than positives it worries me. This was an impulse buy with no research. I hate being stupid and after reading the comments, I don't want to think I threw away money.

lexjj
January 17, 2010, 10:55 PM
Just take it out and play with it.

The P22 falls squarely into either the goofing around category, or the training with a 22 that operates and feels like a centerfire pistol category. People want to turn it into a bullseye pistol. It was the first gun I ever bought. I'm unsure whether I would make the same decision now, but it is undeniable that the gun helped teach my wife to shoot (and now she loves it), and helped me shore up fundamentals.

It is also just fun. I love my Ruger Mk III Hunter, but doing double-taps or shooting fast just isn't the same with it as it is with the P22. If I'm going to shoot 25 yard bullseyes, I'm grabbing the Ruger. If I'm going to show someone how to shoot or just goof off, I'm grabbing the P22.

shootistpd27
January 17, 2010, 11:02 PM
Make sure you use high quality ammo or it will not eject the round. I have been told that cheap casings may be off by a thousandths of a centimeter and it makes all the difference in the world. As long as I have used good rounds, the gun is flawless but IT HAS TO BE CLEAN. Since is is such a small round and the P22 is a slighly larger fram for a 22, if it gets dirty, then it wont work well. I bought one for my wife about 5 years ago and it still works great as long as I do what I have told you to do. Also, if you pull the trigger and dry fire it while it is on safety, the hammer will draw back and strike the safety mechanism, however notice that if you do that several times, the safety will disengage and go to fire, therefore if the gun has one in the pipe, it will go off. Im not going to tell you how I learned that.....

android
January 17, 2010, 11:10 PM
I did some of the polishing and reshaping projects from the article on rimfire central and mine cycles fine even with Federal bulk ammo from Walmart. I find it hard to shoot accurately because the grip is so small, but it's for my daughter to shoot, so I don't really care much about that. I've put a lot of round through mine and only had a few FTE's at the beginning. None since I polished the breech block and reshaped the hammer.

dec41971
January 18, 2010, 12:19 AM
Make sure you use high quality ammo or it will not eject the round. I have been told that cheap casings may be off by a thousandths of a centimeter and it makes all the difference in the world. As long as I have used good rounds, the gun is flawless but IT HAS TO BE CLEAN. Since is is such a small round and the P22 is a slighly larger fram for a 22, if it gets dirty, then it wont work well. I bought one for my wife about 5 years ago and it still works great as long as I do what I have told you to do. Also, if you pull the trigger and dry fire it while it is on safety, the hammer will draw back and strike the safety mechanism, however notice that if you do that several times, the safety will disengage and go to fire, therefore if the gun has one in the pipe, it will go off. Im not going to tell you how I learned that.....
Unless you are at a range with the gun pointed down range, why would you pull the trigger with one in the pipe even if its on safe? Isn't that a violation of one of the 4 fundamental rules? Plus I don't think its good for your hammer anyway, let alone the possibility of a ND.:eek:

TexasBill
January 18, 2010, 06:04 AM
My wife got a P22 and it was so much fun that I got one, as well. Bought spare mags from S&W.

We find ours work just fine with Remington Golden Bullets in the bulk pack. We also have CCI Minimags because of my SIG Mosquito. We haven't had any FTF/FTE problems other than the occasional dud round. Considering how many boxes of the Remington ammo we have gone through, I would imagine each of the pistols has over a thousand rounds through it. We keep them clean and oiled in line with factory specs.

It's accurate enough for shorter pistol ranges, but you have to remember it's a snubnose compared to most Ruger or Browning pistols.

The P22 is my wife's favorite range gun and I like it well enough that when the PK380 came out, I bought one of those, as well.

In short, don't give up on the gun before you get a chance to experience it. Given a chance and some attention to diet, it is one of the most fun guns on the market.

shootistpd27
January 18, 2010, 06:51 AM
Duh dec41971!!! I had hoped someone would learn something from my screwup, buy your not looking at it that way. Instead you are just trolling around trying to find a way to make someone look bad, your an idiot, Ha! There, we're even!

95 Turbo Coupe
January 18, 2010, 09:47 AM
I picked up a p22 last week and took it out to the range. Took it straight out of the case, inspected it, then proceeded to load up a mag. Fired 12, ten rd mags thru it in a row between a friend and I. Used Federal high velocity, Rem subsonic and CCI target (all 40gr.). Around the 80 rd mark, had 2 fail to feeds due to dity feed ramp/rough slide movement also due to being dirty. During the last mag, there were two fail to fire's. Both cases were not struck by the pin. Upon completion of the final mag, the firing pin was siezed due to being dirty. Also, the p22 was blazing hot after the 120rds.

Stripped her down, cleaned her up and she was back in action. Both my pal and I were satisfied with its performance. The Rem subsonics were extremely dirty, but ran well untill the inevitable. We were also satisfied with its accuracy and both commented several times about it. Bowling pin was getting worked @ 25yds, also hit a golf ball set up on a dowel rod at the same distance.

Keep it clean and it should treat you right.

Pilot
January 18, 2010, 10:10 AM
I just can't bring myself to buy a P22 yet would like a small, fun, semi-auto that is more like a standard pistol, especially for my girlfriend to shoot. I think the Bersa Firerstorm .22 fills this role but they are difficult to find. I also think the Beretta M87 would be great but they are also scarce and very pricey.

searcher451
January 19, 2010, 12:46 PM
The P22 Bible on the RimfireCentral site is mandatory reading for every P22 owner. You also should visit the Walther Forums and take a look through the many posts there, including the Sticky in the P22 sub-section on issues with the P22. Keep in mind that you've purchased a Umarex pistol, not a real Walther -- regardless of what it says on the slide. Umarex is Walther's parent company; it specializes in air guns. That should tell you something.

montess85
January 20, 2010, 11:41 PM
Mine fires bulk ammo fine....I guess i am lucky

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