7.62x25 Surplus


January 18, 2010, 12:02 PM
I'm getting a gun in 7.62x25. I read the “quality” of surplus ammo varies widely. So, I'm asking the ones that shoot this round which country supplies the least troublesome surplus. Sportsman's Guide has some 50s Romanian ammo at a good price. Is that stuff pretty good?

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January 18, 2010, 04:57 PM
I have a cz52 that I shoot from time to time. Have to be careful of surplus due to it being corrosive. I've not used the 50s surplus, but I have heard they have a bad tendency for splits.

January 18, 2010, 05:21 PM
Polish - Very poor accuracy
Yugoslavian - Good accuracy (primers are a little hard)

As for ammo for serious self-defense (costly) go with the commercial Czech Sellier and Bellot, which is accurate and goes bang every time.

Never tried the Romanian....

January 18, 2010, 05:45 PM
Romanian: HOT!!! Accuracy is good. You Will Split Cases. Seriously, at a minimum 1 in 4 Romanian cases split after firing. Granted, I doubt it does jack to my TT-33.

January 18, 2010, 05:55 PM
I have shot romanian and bulgarian mil surplus plus commercial (S&B and Privi) ammo through my Tok through the years. In all honesty, the mil surplus stuff I have shot was all similar (loaded hot, accurate and LOTS of split cases). I would carry the privi/wolf gold JHP's in my tok for serious purposes without hesitation.

January 18, 2010, 07:04 PM
The ammo is going to used strictly in a fun gun. It's an AR-15 type upper on a registered M-16 lower. I have a CZ-52 and a lot of old ammo. Not sure what it is. Made in '54 and has the 3 dot crimp. Boxes have crylic type lettering that I can't read. It does jam the CZ every now and then, but I hear they have tight chambers. I haven't spotted any splits in this ammo yet. Not to say they aren't there or I've missed them. Every one has gone off so far. Just trying to figure out what country makes the most consistent ammo. I'm gonna need a lot.

January 20, 2010, 08:21 AM
Been doing some research. Starting to think the crylic lettering might be Bulgarian. Can anyone confirm this?

Dain Bramage
January 20, 2010, 05:35 PM
Yugoslavian - Good accuracy (primers are a little hard)

Good surplus ammo, but would often cause my CZ52 to misfire. Second strikes would usually work.

No such problem with my Norinco Tok. It digests everything. Points like Stalin's finger, and never met a hard primer.

January 21, 2010, 07:53 AM
Put an order in at Sportsman's Guide for 2 cases of Romanian. We'll see how it goes. The M-16 lower should light it off. But I don't know how tight the chamber will be on this upper. I “hear” the CZ-52 has a tighter chamber then the TT-33. And that is why it will choke on ammo the the TT will eat. Kinda in uncharted territory on this one. That's why I came here for advice on this caliber.

archie bunker
February 11, 2010, 07:28 PM
i racked my slide back on my cz-52 and i cant close it,,no slide release button. can someone help me,,???

February 11, 2010, 08:43 PM
I had the slide jam problem with one of my cz52s. I had to remove the magazine, not an easy chore. If the round is Live, be very careful. Point in a safe direction and pull down in front as you pull the two slide releases. Then pull the slide down slowly and see if you can rack it again. Remember this is a live round. It may take a few tries but mine goes into battery after that.

Then get a stronger wolfe spring. After I had the stronger spring it never did it again.

February 11, 2010, 08:48 PM
ABout the ammo. I have shot fiive and a half cans, Even the bulgarian ones shoot well. Beware of the rounds that are split before being shot. Many of them will split when shot, but that does not seem to affect my gun or the bullet. For me the yugoslavian seem to shoot poorly, the rest are accurate. I always clean my gun as soon as I get back from the range.

The round is a fun and cheap round. It has deeeep penetration, so is not likely to be a good self defense round. Also, make sure there is no one withing 20 feet of your right side. The shells seem to eject into the next county.

harmon rabb
February 11, 2010, 08:50 PM
i've fired all kinds of milsurp garbage from my tokarev. it has eaten everything without a single issue.

archie bunker
February 11, 2010, 10:40 PM
keeter,,,thanks a lot i will work on it in the morning,,

archie bunker
February 12, 2010, 11:09 PM
keeter,,i did what you said,,and it worked beautifully. i knew i had to be simple,it just had me stumped,,archie

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