Founding Fathers vs Hitler Voting Exercise, Quotes from Gore and the Unabomber


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tyme
November 14, 2003, 10:33 PM
http://www.etherzone.com/2003/blow082903.shtml
Candidate A: "A well-known critic of government, this man has been involved in tax protest movements, and has openly advocated secession, armed rebellion against the existing national government, and even the overthrow of that government. He is a known member of a militia group that was involved in a shoot-out with law enforcement authorities. He opposes gun control efforts of the present national government, as well as restrictions on open immigration into this country. He is a businessman who has earned his fortune from such businesses as alcohol, tobacco, retailing, and smuggling."

Candidate B: "A decorated army war veteran, this man is an avowed nonsmoker and dedicated public health advocate. His public health interests include the fostering of medical research and his dedication to eliminating cancer. He opposes the use of animals in conducting such research. He has supported restrictions on the use of asbestos, pesticides, and radiation, and favors government-determined occupational health and safety standards, as well as the promotion of such foods as whole-grain bread and soybeans. He is an advocate of government gun-control measures. An ardent opponent of tobacco, he has supported increased restrictions on both the use of and advertising for tobacco products. Such advertising restrictions include: [1] not allowing tobacco use to be portrayed as harmless or a sign of masculinity; [2] not allowing such advertising to be directed to women; [3] not drawing attention to the low nicotine content of tobacco products; and, [4] limitations as to where such advertisements may be made. This man is a champion of environmental and conservationist programs, and believes in the importance of sending troops into foreign countries in order to maintain order therein."

The etherzone article's results:
39 of 50 (78%) voted for B.

Shaffer's results ( http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer52.html )
prior to 2003: ~75% voted for B.
2003: 45-41 vote (total of 86 students) with B winning.

It would be interesting if anyone with access to a group of students could conduct a similar exercise and post the results. :)

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Quotes from Al Gore and the Unabomber: You decide who said which:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ken_crossman/Gore.htm

*DANGER* *spoiler*
direct link to answers: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ken_crossman/Answers.htm

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Geech
November 15, 2003, 01:31 AM
Interesting. I sent the "ballot" to some of my family members.

I myself did very poorly on the Gore vs Unabomber test. Since there's no real context for these quotes, though, that's understandable.

MeekandMild
November 16, 2003, 08:25 PM
Well! :what:

Knowing that Gore's ideology is nearly identical with the unabomber's I decided to ignore content and evaluate the language of the quotes.

I figured that a vice president should have better clarity of presentation. I believed that a diagnosed schizophrenic might have cluttering, verbigeration, excessive lexicon cohesion, predicate association, excessive parenthetical ideas, ambivalance, praecox ideas and prominent delusions, maybe even frank disorganization.


My score was 50%.


So how do you tell a crazy liberal from a sane liberal?

7.62FullMetalJacket
November 16, 2003, 09:13 PM
I challenge you to find a sane liberal. If you do, send him/her to Canada.

Q. How does a boy growing up in Tennessee turn out so?
A. He lived in Washington DC too long.

tyme
November 16, 2003, 11:22 PM
I'm wondering if there's any assurance that Gore's book wasn't ghost-written. Maybe it was written by the unabomber for $.17/hr prison wage?

OTOH, maybe it's no surprise they think and write so similarly. They both went to Harvard. :eek:

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