Mossberg 930 SPX
michiganfan
January 31, 2010, 03:54 PM
Got to shoot my new 930 yesterday. WOW. eight rounds of 12ga as fast as you can pull the trigger. Only got to go through a 100 rounds. it was birdshot. No problems. Gun was 100 per cent. No stoppages whatsoever. Haven't grinned this much in ages.
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LoneStarWings
January 31, 2010, 04:04 PM
Agreed, I think this shotgun will continue to increase in popularity in the future. I really enjoy mine and it has replaced the 870 as my go-to shotgun. I've got about 400 rounds through mine and it is very reliable with all types of ammo from birdshot to slugs to buckshot, even low recoil rounds. Its 8 round capacity (or 9 with ghost loading) is a big plus over similarly sized guns with less capacity in my opinion. My only problems came when I over lubed it - it does not like a lot of grease or oil, especially in cold temperatures w/ low recoil rounds. Go easy on the lube and it will chew everything up.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c55/LoneStarWings/mossberg930spx.jpg
millertyme
January 31, 2010, 04:15 PM
I was just looking one of those over the other day. Good to hear positive reviews from it. Maybe this year I'll get a new shotgun.
Al LaVodka
January 31, 2010, 04:31 PM
So, I've read that the forearm is loose and the sights are obviously too high for a regular stock.
Your thoughts!?
Al
michiganfan
January 31, 2010, 04:36 PM
The forearm on mine was fine. As for the sights I only got out to about the 10 yard range so there wasnt a lot of sighting going on. I was indooors. For that range they seemed fine. Seemed to be hitting where I was aiming.
Al LaVodka
January 31, 2010, 05:23 PM
But I'll bet your cheek wasn't welded to the stock properly. Try this for us...
Close your eyes, shoulder the gun as it FEELS it should be, proper cheek-weld and all, and then open your eye. I'd wager you won't be able to see through the sights but will be lookig at the rear sight mount and to use the sights you'll have to move your jaw up to the stock...
Al
LoneStarWings
January 31, 2010, 07:41 PM
I dunno, I'm away from my 930 so i can't try that exercise but I have no problems getting a good cheek weld and sight picture even shooting left handed. I don't find it to be an issue. I don't know where you've read that the forearm is loose but compared to an 870 it's rock solid (in terms of side to side looseness); not loose at all, at least through 400 rounds of shooting.
I realize they had some quality control problems at first with the front sight being canted and other things, but I think they've resolved most of those now. Personally I went to dick's sporting goods, inspected several, and they all looked like they had straight front sights and tight forearms. I picked the one that had the fewest cosmetic dings and took it home.
Al LaVodka
January 31, 2010, 09:10 PM
You compare the forearm of a pump-action to a gas gun and decide the latter is tighter, comparatively...
Is there someone else who has any practical experience with the 930 forearm and its high sights?
Al
Dimis
January 31, 2010, 11:27 PM
Al i can say that the forearm isnt an issue the ones i have handled are rock solid compaired to other semi autos
as for the sights yes they CAN be a little high but as we are all different some of us (myself included) can get a good cheek weld and still see my sights (i can also use tall rings on my rifles ;-) )
as for the sights being canted mossberg claims to have resolved the QC issue and will repair any firearm that is canted
also proper cheak weld is relative with shotgunners some of us "point shoot" and only use the sights as a reference when actualy needed and can muddle through the rest when we get there
and yes im aware of the argument why get sights if you arent going to use them but that falls under the this is america and i can do what i want catagory
i have yet to fire a 930SPX but i can say for sure its on the list
ishida
February 1, 2010, 12:30 AM
Get this Al, NOT EVERYONE IS YOU.
Many people can use the 930 just fine, and don't have the problems you apparently had. One specimen of a model isn't near enough to judge it by.
Grow up.
LoneStarWings
February 1, 2010, 07:31 PM
You compare the forearm of a pump-action to a gas gun and decide the latter is tighter, comparatively...
Is there someone else who has any practical experience with the 930 forearm and its high sights
You are a rude individiual, I'm sorry for trying to help you. Notice I said "SIDE TO SIDE" movement when comparing it to the 870. Go away, and please do not buy a 930, you are not worthy :barf:
whalerman
February 1, 2010, 07:51 PM
Hey guys, what just happened here? I was reading an interesting exchange on a new shotgun, one that interests me, and all of a sudden people are getting mad at each other? Maybe a little overreaction here?
bkjeffrey
February 9, 2010, 10:53 PM
back to the topic at at hnd.............
I just got a new 930 spx this week and heres my findings after MANY hours of handling.
First, I love this gun. I stopped feeling giddy about new guns many years ago. Everythime I pick it up I cant help but smile and I feel like a 10 year old with a crush. I thought I had just grown out of my gun phase unitl I brought this home.
Initial findings are its super light! Lightest shotgun Ive ever owned, and Ive had MANY.
The one I have is built solid. No forend wobble at all.
The action is fairly smooth. Im sure after a few hundred rounds it will be amazing.
Loading is really nice and smooth. The shells slide into the magazine nice and easy witha good solid lockup once in there.
The mag tube spring and plunger do an outstanding job ejecting a fresh shell from the magazine. It throws them out with authority! Also the follower is a nice heavy duty milled steel. No need to replace this one with some high dollar unit.
The gun cycles everything. Low brass budget bird is not a problem.
Also, you can float one on the elevator for a total of 9 rounds, ready to rock, with no worries of a malfunction, she does just fine.
Magazine unloading is a snap. You can unload without having to cycle each round through the action just by putting your thumb in front of the magazine loading port and depressing the bolt release. It will knidly hand you one round at a time.
BUT, the sights are really high. Im gonna say CHIN WELD on this one. But, with the ultra light recoil its easily manageable.
My only other concern is that the spent shell ejection is a bit onthe weak side, we will see if this becomes a problem in the future.
Overall, for all intended purposes, this gun is a 10 in my book.
Thats my .02 ladies.
Youngster
February 9, 2010, 11:15 PM
I'll consider one if a 13" LOP stock other than the Choate pistol grip shoulder stock version becomes available, though I'd probably go with a bead sighted model over the SPX.
devildog32713
February 10, 2010, 02:15 PM
Hey guys, what just happened here? I was reading an interesting exchange on a new shotgun, one that interests me, and all of a sudden people are getting mad at each other? Maybe a little overreaction here?
+1 :D
bkjeffrey
February 11, 2010, 08:52 PM
Mine didnt come with a chote pistol grip stock...........whats up with that????
But I bet yours dont got one of these............................
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/bkjeffrey/IMG00101.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff117/bkjeffrey/IMG00100.jpg
michiganfan
February 12, 2010, 04:45 AM
I didnt buy the pistol grip stock model either. And my sight picture looks just like yours.
bkjeffrey
February 12, 2010, 08:40 AM
And my sight picture looks just like yours.
talking about the charging handle
michiganfan
February 12, 2010, 04:48 PM
No no I was just pointing out that in your second pic you can see the front sight through the ghost ring. I did not get that charging handle.
averius
March 12, 2010, 01:23 PM
Guys what's a good price for a Mossber 930 SPc nowdays? is it worth gettign oen with a pistol grip or not?
TX
Al LaVodka
March 12, 2010, 07:37 PM
Has anyone actually tried putting "the" Moss Monte Carlo stock on the 930? Mossberg customer service told me they don't have one for it and, frankly, it seems the sights are just too far off the receiver and barrel for a good cheek weld.
What I'd really want is a SpeedFeed +4 Monte Carlo stock! lol
Al
Smitty in CT
March 12, 2010, 08:25 PM
Has anyone actually tried putting "the" Moss Monte Carlo stock on the 930? Mossberg customer service told me they don't have one for it and, frankly, it seems the sights are just too far off the receiver and barrel for a good cheek weld...Call them back, the person you spoke with doesn't know what they're talking about.
From Mossberg's own web-site:
the "standard" stock:
http://mossberg.com/images/products/930/85235.jpg
The "monte carlo" stock:
http://mossberg.com/images/products/930/85232.jpg
Call them back and ask to speak to a supervisor....
braindoc
March 23, 2010, 01:00 AM
There are 3 inserts included with the gun that will raise the the stock. I used the highest one and then I added a segment of pipe insulation under the stock ammo sleeve (look at the OP's picture) to get a proper cheek weld. It works very well for me.
braindoc
John's930
May 17, 2010, 09:53 PM
Hi everyone.
First poster here. I have recently purchased a 930SPX.
I would really like to upgrade the charging handle.
The one pictured in BKJeffery's post looks great. Any info on obtaining one like that would be appreaciated BK.
I have also seen a supposed upgrade right from Mossberg.
I have seen the Choat model and The NOB that can't be tracked down.
It seems those posters are M.I.A.:mad:
Flat Iron forge has a good looking model but can't get them to answer the phone.:uhoh:
I would appreciate any feedback.
Thanks, John.:)
braindoc
May 17, 2010, 10:33 PM
I would have liked the NOB or the one pictured above, but I was able to check out the Choate version at the NRA convention and for $9, the price was right.
braindoc
bushmaster1313
May 17, 2010, 10:52 PM
I really liked my 930 with the regular magazine (can't have an SPX in New Jersey)
Unfortunately, it would not eject Winchester Ranger reduced recoil. Mossberg could not make it work and they bought it back.
Smitty in CT
May 18, 2010, 09:18 AM
...I would really like to upgrade the charging handle.
The one pictured in BKJeffery's post looks great. Any info on obtaining one like that would be appreaciated BK.
I have also seen a supposed upgrade right from Mossberg.
I have seen the Choat model and The NOB that can't be tracked down.
It seems those posters are M.I.A.
Flat Iron forge has a good looking model but can't get them to answer the phone....
http://elitetacticaladvantage.com/products/shotguns/mossberg/charging.html
http://elitetacticaladvantage.com/products/shotguns/mossberg/images/930_w_charging_handle.png
More pics here:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=217503&p=1809787#p1809787
rduckwor
May 18, 2010, 10:42 AM
Is there someone else who has any practical experience with the 930 forearm and its high sights?
I have this shotgun and tried your "eyes closed" mount. Both time, I opened my eyes and was perfectly aligned with the LPA sights.
Mine was problematic initially cycling the cheap low brass shells.
A quick chamber polish has it running like a raped ape now.
Good piece that I'm looking forward to running in the next 3 gun match. Hopefully humble a few of the nay-sayers.
RMD
bkjeffrey
May 18, 2010, 12:43 PM
ahh, my charging handle was built by me. It was an AK Gas piston. I just cut it to the appropriate length, filed the last inch or so flat and used a few smaller jewelers files to match the fatcory bolt handle's detent notch. It cost me 15 bucks and about two hours of manual labor.
All I did then was sandblast it and spray it with KG Gun Kote. I guess regular spray paint would hold up pretty good too.
SOUTHPAW
May 18, 2010, 12:53 PM
An SPX is definitely on my short list. Actually it's one of the next 2 guns I plan on purchasing! :)
John's930
May 18, 2010, 01:01 PM
Thanks for the input folks.
I have seen the ETA bolt handle. It may be the one I turn to since I don't have gunsmithing skills.
I am getting too old to wait for things as well. : - )
John's930
May 18, 2010, 05:08 PM
I've tried to contact ETA by phone several times. Just get the machine and a Congo war song. I'm a little hesitant to do business with someone that you can't talk to.
I saw on one site that they had a combo price for the bolt & safety.
Can't find it on their site and would like to know about it.
AcceptableUserName
May 18, 2010, 05:09 PM
there was somebody who had a buncha problems with their 930 and said they were dealing with Mossberg customer service...what ever happened with that???
1557
May 18, 2010, 08:06 PM
I've had no problem with the front sight being too high,although I have heard a few complaints about it from other people. The primary problem with the SPX front sight has been canting to one side.Lots of complaints about this,and Mossberg has had to send out a lot of new barrels because of it.
Fortunately,mine does not have the cant as I received it.
I aquired mine in August of '09 from an individual who had only put 12 rounds through it. I have run it since then without cleaning or lubrication of any kind,and have to date had no malfunctions at all.
There are a few things I am not satisfied with that could be improved on.
One is the design of the Choate extension.I have had Choate extensions for years but none were made like this one. Experimentation with this gun as a fighting gun has revealed a few things. The end piece on the Coate extension can be bumped against something and knocked slightly out of alignment which will cause the spring to bind up and fail to feed rounds from the mag tube. This is an annoyance when it occurs and mine will be replaced with a closed end extension.
The very short cupped follower is a problem waiting to happen if the magazine tube is not kept free of grit. You will get some dirt,grit,etc.in the mag tube when loading especially loading on the move and doing drills with this weapon.The mag tube should be cleaned when the rest of the gun is cleaned.
Longer non binding aftermarket followers are available which virtually eliminate this problem but may reduce capacity by one round depending on the particular brand. When the standard follower binds up due to grit it gives the same effect as the extension problem and the rounds won't feed from the tube. A healthy bump against the ground on the buttstock will usually free it up but you may not have time for that and this should not happen.
A better designed charging handle from the factory is needed.Pretty good aftermarkets are available,but why can't (or why won't) Mossberg do it.
I love this shotgun. It feels like it was carved out especially for me as it came from the factory.It is utterly reliable,the magazine follower and extension being the only causes for concern,really. I'm talking hard use here,in training,not just shooting.
This shotgun,with just a few minor tweaks from the factory,has the potential to be one of the best autoloading combat shotguns ever made.
I like mine well enough to keep it and address and correct the potential problems,but wouldn't it be nice if Mossberg would do it for us?
AcceptableUserName
May 18, 2010, 08:09 PM
if its so great, reward it
! go clean that sucker PLEASE!
1557
May 18, 2010, 08:20 PM
Nope.It's a test. I plan to reward it with a good cleaning and lube sometime after the July 4th weekend. :D
John's930
May 24, 2010, 02:11 PM
Well, I recieved my Charging handle and safety from ETA today.
I am a little bumfuzzled with the stock screw that holds the original 930 safety in place.:(
I am sure it is made the way specifically. Edges are beveled to cause difficulty in removing it.
Maybe some of you gun pros can help a newbie out on this.
Thanks in advance for any help.
John's 930.
Smitty in CT
May 24, 2010, 03:43 PM
...I am a little bumfuzzled with the stock screw that holds the original 930 safety in place...
The easiest way is to use a new screwdriver (or, one with really sharp edges). Put the gun in a well padded vise (so the finish doesn't get messed up) to hold the gun steady. Then bear down hard, the sharp edges of the screwdriver should "bite" and the screw will come right out.... or, you can use a dremel tool to cut a slot for a screwdriver.
If you don't want to get "fancy", you can use vise grips and break the old safety out, then unscrew the screw with the vise grips once the safety is out of the way....
John's930
May 24, 2010, 04:17 PM
Thanks Smitty,
I vised it and used a thin flat nosed punch on one of the beveled edges to start it movin'.
No damage to original parts.
It's a good thing someone told me to watch out for the ball bearing. I wouldn't have known where that came from. I can just imagine it falling down into the trigger assembly.
I feel that the ETA additions will work out fine on the 930.
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