What is your bedside mag?


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GasX
February 1, 2010, 11:01 PM
My new and first gun arrives on Wednesday and I am looking forward to getting it out to the range and perforating a few silhouettes. On a more serious note, this baby is going to spend most of his time in a gunvault by my bed "just in case". Does anyone have a recommendation for what to keep in the mag?

The gun is a S&W 3913 single stack 9mm. 8+1. My house is a typical Florida floor plan - a one story home with the master on one side and the kids (3 ages 3,2 & 1) on the other side of the house, so I have serious over-penetration concerns.

I was thinking something along the lines of a 3-4 of rounds of Glasers followed by some as yet to be determined self defense round. Anyone have any specific recommendations?

Also, what would you recommend for CCW for general out in public SD?

Thx,

Gasx

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mikemx5
February 1, 2010, 11:19 PM
For a bedside gun or CCW, the 3913 would be an excellent choice. I would not bother with the Glasers, just stick with a decent hollowpoint.

Deus Machina
February 2, 2010, 12:04 AM
Glasers do nothing to stop overpenetration through walls.

Anything that can do appropriate harm to a human body will utterly ignore drywall. Don't sweat it, just make sure of your line of fire.

If you're that worried about it, your best compromise would be a shotgun loaded with #4 shot. It looses energy quickly enough that it's not likely to do any damage to something on the opposite end of the house.

That said, just use your favorite hollowpoints. I carry Federal HST's above all else (I can't find any more!), and my second choice is Gold Dots. Below that, Golden Sabers, Hydrashok, Cor-Bon DPX, any other premium round.

The same will work perfectly for CCW. I'm a fan of those S&W autos for that, too. I still own a 469 (second-gen double-stack) and wouldn't mind a 6906.

MrCleanOK
February 2, 2010, 12:23 AM
Pick a well-known jacketed hollowpoint with a good reputation, buy as much of it as you can afford, and shoot it. If it feeds well in your gun, stick with it. If it does not feed well in your gun, try a second brand. Continue this process until you find a brand that feeds, or you decide the gun is defective and needs to be send back to Smith for work (not very likely).

GasX
February 7, 2010, 04:36 PM
Based on what was in stock, it'll be Golden Sabres for now...

Floppy_D
February 7, 2010, 04:48 PM
Based on what was in stock, it'll be Golden Sabres for now...

Good plan. Keep a flashlight in there too, and you got a winner.

GasX
February 7, 2010, 05:04 PM
Good plan. Keep a flashlight in there too, and you got a winner.
Yup and a box of condoms... ;)

ArchAngelCD
February 8, 2010, 01:45 AM
If Hornady Critical Defense ammo will feed reliably in your handgun I highly recommend them.

W.E.G.
February 8, 2010, 02:01 AM
There are 1,702 threads on the topic of overpenetration on THR.

http://thehighroad.org/search.php?searchid=7076295

trickyasafox
February 8, 2010, 06:58 PM
any modern expanding hollowpoint will serve you well. I'd pick up which one was priced most reasonably for your financial situation.

MachIVshooter
February 8, 2010, 07:38 PM
Based on what was in stock, it'll be Golden Sabres for now...

Those are fine. That's what I keep in my .380's, 9mm's, .40 and 10mm. They'd be in my .45, too, except that I really liked the performance of Sierra 240 gr. SJHC's at the +P+ levels I load to.

They're not gonna be any better or worse with sheetrock than other JHP's. If you're that concerned about it, pull down the drywall and put 16 gauge sheetmetal up, then redo the drywall. Otherwise, just watch your field of fire in the unlikely even of a home invasion. Most likely, the shots would be out of your room at the doorway or down the hallway. Stay low and shoot the BG high COM, and stray rounds will go over the beds if they happen to miss and enter the kiddo's room.

Just my $0.02

Leafy Cronmer
February 8, 2010, 07:46 PM
I would recommend the Winchester Ranger. It's a good hollow-point that feeds well in my guns. And no to the Glasers.

Katana8869
February 8, 2010, 07:59 PM
There are 1,702 threads on the topic of overpenetration on THR.


And always 1 person that makes some such stupid comment on damn near every thread started here.

Tamlin
February 8, 2010, 10:58 PM
bedside mag? Um, Playboy . . . .:D

harmon rabb
February 9, 2010, 06:52 AM
gun is a springfield xd 45, load is 14 cor-bon 230gr .45acp+p's

possum
February 9, 2010, 06:55 AM
i as well use corbon only as my carry ammo.

i say get something that has a good rep, and that more than anything is reliable in your gun, and something that you can accuratly shoot/ control.

Trebor
February 9, 2010, 07:04 AM
Glasers do nothing to stop overpenetration through walls.

Anything that can do appropriate harm to a human body will utterly ignore drywall. Don't sweat it, just make sure of your line of fire.

Deus Machine hit it right on the head. I'll go further: Don't use Glasers. They don't reliably penetrate deep enough to stop an attacker. They also don't always feed well through some pistols. Any modern JHP is a better choice.

Here are some 9mm ammo reviews I wrote recently. Read through for more info on each load to help you decide.

Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 127 gr +P+ (http://www.epinions.com/review/Winchester_9mm_Luger_RA9TA_Ranger_SXT_9mm_127_gr_epi/content_501386088068)

Federal C9BP 9mm 115 gr JHP is an excellent standard pressure defense load (http://www.epinions.com/review/Federal_C9BP_9mm_Luger_115_JHP_Personal_Defense_epi/content_501374029444)

Winchester 9mm Silvertip is a standard pressure defense load (http://www.epinions.com/review/9MM_115Gr_Silvertip_50/content_498153393796)

Winchester 9mm 147 gr Silvertip - A subsonic load for personal defense (http://www.epinions.com/review/9MM_147Gr_Silvertip_HP_50/content_501209403012)

scchokedaddy
February 9, 2010, 12:28 PM
Please since you said you are new, practice practice practiCE!!!! Get as familar with weapon as possible!!! Practice with cheap wad cutters or as some of us call them hole punchers, then as stated by above post make da--- sure they will feed reliably in your weapon. You will be better off with ball ammo that will feed than hollow points that do not!!! Pick up cheap shottie and number 4's will fit bill if you are afraid 00 will be too much in your home.{not making fun of you but agreeing as to your concern for liitle ones} good luck and god bless

hirundo82
February 9, 2010, 02:40 PM
Besides the good suggestions to practice and use a quality hollowpoint, make sure you know the angles in your house. That is, know the angles where you can shoot a bad guy and a miss won't send a round through the room where your loved ones are sleeping.

Ben86
February 9, 2010, 03:06 PM
I keep 124 grain gold dot hollow points in my bedside Glock 17. I wouldn't bother with glasers or any other pre-fragmented bs, stick with premium hollow points.

NMGonzo
February 9, 2010, 03:10 PM
8 round .45

Texas Gun Person
February 9, 2010, 03:19 PM
Magazine I have right now next to my bed is Maxim.

I don't keep anything in my night stand. If I hear something that makes me wake up... I'm not immediately going to reach for my gun in a semi-conscious state. Not advised at all. Getting out of bed and walking across the room for a firearm is a much better way to go about it. In the night stand is just way too common.

shockwave
February 9, 2010, 03:28 PM
I don't keep anything in my night stand. If I hear something that makes me wake up... I'm not immediately going to reach for my gun in a semi-conscious state. Not advised at all. Getting out of bed and walking across the room for a firearm is a much better way to go about it. In the night stand is just way too common.

That's a reasonable observation. I'm thinking of mounting the shotgun under the bedframe so it's an easy grab, but gun on the nightstand has some minuses - like the old joke about the phone ringing and the guy picks up his gun and answers it: "hello?" Bang. By the time I can rack the slide, I'll be awake enough.

easyg
February 9, 2010, 04:53 PM
Beside my bed, on the floor and not on the nightstand, is Glock containing a magazine full of 125g Speer Gold Dot .357Sig rounds.

Ben86
February 9, 2010, 08:16 PM
I don't keep anything in my night stand. If I hear something that makes me wake up... I'm not immediately going to reach for my gun in a semi-conscious state. Not advised at all. Getting out of bed and walking across the room for a firearm is a much better way to go about it. In the night stand is just way too common.

I hope no one gets to your bedroom before you wake up.

GIJOEL
February 9, 2010, 09:28 PM
FIRST: go to boxotruth.com and read about what rounds do what.
SECOND: go to ammotogo.com and get a few boxes of LE golddots or hydroshok
THIRD: go to the range and practice

AKElroy
February 9, 2010, 09:44 PM
I keep 115gr +P+ Double Taps in my 9's. They have a very high lethality rating, and tend to fragment more readily just due to the light weight & high velocity.

I would second an earlier comment that you need a reliable system for waking up when any exterior door or window is opened. We leave our alarm "Instant on" when home; it has battery backup in a hidden, locked metal strong box. Every window & door is protected. If someone comes in, we know it, and every member of the family knows what to do. Barring that expense, get a dog.

deano186
February 9, 2010, 10:08 PM
I thought you meant 'What magazine do you keep by your bed'. Dillon's 'Blue Press' for me ;)

MK11
February 11, 2010, 04:59 PM
If they do get into the bedroom before he wakes up, probably doesn't matter whether it's on the nightstand or not.

MCgunner
February 11, 2010, 05:37 PM
By my bed is a 20 gauge coach gun loaded with 3 buck, a .357 magnum loaded with 140 grain JHP full power loads, and a snub .38 loaded with +P 158 JHP. None have magazines. Sometimes an issue of "American Rifleman" in there, though. :D

bassclef
February 11, 2010, 06:02 PM
i was told by a guy that you should carry in your CCW whatever the local police for your county/state carry. for me its speer gold dots.

wrs840
February 11, 2010, 06:51 PM
Based on what was in stock, it'll be Golden Sabres for now...

No problem with that. I'm a Speer Gold Dot fan in General, Use Hornady FTX in my pocket-guns, Speer GD or Winchester Silvertips in my .45 colt revolver... But... My bedside pistol is a S&W 5904, and in range testing a bunch of SD rounds shooting at 7 yds, 124gr Golden Saber non-+P low-flash grouped best for me out of that particular gun, so it seemed like a natural "pick" in every way.

Les

LiquidTension
February 12, 2010, 09:56 AM
16 rounds of Winchester Ranger RA40T.

mgmorden
February 12, 2010, 10:55 AM
I don't keep anything in my night stand. If I hear something that makes me wake up... I'm not immediately going to reach for my gun in a semi-conscious state. Not advised at all. Getting out of bed and walking across the room for a firearm is a much better way to go about it. In the night stand is just way too common.
I hope no one gets to your bedroom before you wake up.

Agreed. If you have young kids in the house then you have to perform some extra lockup, but if it's all adults, then I see absolutely no point (and a significant disadvantage) in adding more and more layers to get to your gun. If it takes more than a few seconds to access then you very likely won't have it when you need it. All it ends up being is a false sense of security. It's the same reason why most newer handguns are coming with no manual safety added. Anything fiddling and tinkering between you realizing there's a threat and your gun going bang if it needs to is just a tragedy waiting to happen.

That said, my bedside gun (strangely enough) is currently a Nagant revolver. Not much rhyme or reason. I was keeping the SIG P6 next to the bed but I took it to the range a few months back and never got around to loading it back up and putting it near the bed, so the Nagant is there for right now :).

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