New gun ban, another what if scenario..


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OEF_VET
November 17, 2003, 11:04 AM
Ok, somehow, the liberals have George W. against the wall. Not only does he not allow the AWB to sunset, he allows an even tougher ban to pass.

The new law: a person may only possess three (3) guns, one rifle, one shotgun, and one handgun, no more. If you pick a combo rifle/shotgun, that counts as both. There's no differentiating between pistols or revolvers, it's one or the other. You only get one barrel per weapon. And they have to be what you currently own now or can reasonably expect to be able to afford or legally purchase between now and next September.

What do you pick?

Me, I pick:
rifle - SAR-1
shotgun - either of my Mossberg 500's
handgun - S&W 686 since it came from my dad

Of course, I'll transfer my other Mossberg 500 and my AR-7 to the better half to go with her Taurus 85.

Frank

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TallPine
November 17, 2003, 11:17 AM
:cuss: them!

I'm keeping everything I have.

(well, I might give up a few bullets ... :) )

Rebel Gunman HK
November 17, 2003, 11:20 AM
Ditto to what Tall Pine said. We shouldnt even consider that an option.

Jack19
November 17, 2003, 11:21 AM
I'd pick secession from the Union.

I do hope George 2 realizes that if the AWB is renewed, he loses.

Oleg Volk
November 17, 2003, 11:32 AM
Kinda skipped over how the "excess" guns would be collected...that would determine the order of bloodletting which would surely follow.

BrokenPaw
November 17, 2003, 11:48 AM
Golly, I don't own any guns, officer...

-BP

GigaBuist
November 17, 2003, 01:36 PM
I'll take a bunch of cosmoline, plastic bags, good solid crates and a shovel. Throw in a GPS system to mark positions too. What won't get burried is:

Remington 870... though I would have to pick up a smooth bore barrel for it.
Mosin Nagant m44
Glock 23C (it'll carry well).

The AR, AK, and CETME get burried for sure -- the next ban will get rid of them anyway.

RustyHammer
November 17, 2003, 04:41 PM
Don't have any guns ... sold them all through private sell last year!

Kamicosmos
November 17, 2003, 04:50 PM
Dunno how much you value your guns and rights, but I'm not giving up any of mine.

Skunkabilly
November 17, 2003, 04:56 PM
M4 Dissipator with carbon fiber handguard
Benelli M1 Super 90
either a Beretta 92G or Kimber 1911 with carbon fiber grips. Me not picky.

obiwan1
November 17, 2003, 05:00 PM
What guns?????:confused: I don't have any guns.

Mark Tyson
November 17, 2003, 05:01 PM
Screw 'em. I'm not a criminal. I'm keeping all of 'em.

There's a little thing called civil disobedience. If enough people refuse to obey the law they can't stop us. We could have to make some hard choices next year.

ctdonath
November 17, 2003, 09:01 PM
The new law: a person may only possess three (3) guns, one rifle, one shotgun, and one handgun, no more. ... What do you pick?

That, my friends, is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that got us where we are, and will lose us everything.

May your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.

Standing Wolf
November 17, 2003, 09:12 PM
If they want my guns, all they have to do is come get them. They can have the ammunition first.

Werewolf
November 17, 2003, 09:23 PM
Mark Tyson Decided:
Screw 'em. I'm not a criminal. I'm keeping all of 'em.

There's a little thing called civil disobedience. If enough people refuse to obey the law they can't stop us. We could have to make some hard choices next year.

A wonderful sentiment. BUT! Who goes first?

Americans are by nature pretty much followers - yes even us keepers of freedom in the gun culture.

So who goes first? Which one of us or our neighbors is gonna bite the bullet, make the first shot and take out one of the police, a government agent, a blue helmeted UN scum or US Army type that comes to take away YOUR guns? And what makes anyone think that would do any good? What makes anyone think that your fellows would ever even know - a government that would take your guns would and could surely suppress any information to the effect that they could be stopped from doing it don't you think? AND if no one knew that the first shot had been fired and that one man or woman had stood up and said NO! Then that act of courage would be fruitless.

This is REAL LIFE not Unintended Consequences. Newspapers, TV and Radio would be controlled and the internet would be shut down. The USA is a big country and the seed of insurrection would be ground into the dirt without anyone ever knowing it had sprouted.

Until someone takes that first shot and then another and then another nothing will happen.

To be honest and as much as I hate to say it - I don't believe that first shot would ever be taken. The guns would be collected without resistance.

I provide as an example Australia. A nation whose history is much like our own. When the gun grabbers came the people stood meekly by while their guns were taken away.

I provide as an example states like California and Massachusetts, Washington D.C. where draconian gun laws have made it difficult if not impossible to be a lawful gun owner. Did anyone stand up there and say NO! You will not take my guns?

I provide as an example the United Kingdom where even the right to self defense has been taken away. Has anyone stood up there and said enough is enough?

The same will - unhappily - happen here - in the USA - within the next 50 years or so.

Luckily I'm old enough that I will never see it. My children may - my grand children most assuredly will.

We're past the point of no return. The line in the sand has been crossed and no one (and that includes me) stood up pushed back. One day the government will wake up and say, "Hey! You know what? We can disarm the people and there ain't a damn thing they can or better still will do about it. What took us so long?"

Darrin
November 17, 2003, 09:39 PM
AR-15
current Mossy 590
1911

Everything else would have been sold last year at a gun show. :)


Werewolf, you don't think Americans will stand for themselves unlike Austrailia or the UK? Hell, Americans are so itching for a fight, we even fought ourselves in the Civil War! If the gubmint were to try to take our guns, I want to believe we'll handle it differently from our aquaintences across the oceans.

Molon Labe!

Daedalus
November 17, 2003, 10:02 PM
I dont care what gun laws pass. None of my firearms will be surrendered under any circumstances. "From my cold, dead hands."

If the liberals get a hold of genie that uses magic to make all guns disappear except for 1 handgun, 1 rifle, 1 shotgun my choices would be:

Rifle - Barrett 82A1
Shotgun - Remington 870 Marine Magnum
Handgun - CZ 75B

Harry Tuttle
November 17, 2003, 10:29 PM
a) Tar
b) Feathers
c) Rail

Mark Tyson
November 17, 2003, 10:32 PM
Didn't plenty of gun owners refuse to register their "assault weapons" in CA?

If enough of us do it they can't stop us. Cops are not supermen. They do not have X-ray vision. They can't read minds. Most gun owners who get caught for something stupid get caught because they talked.

How do you think it will look when the ATF kicks down the door to confiscate some kid's .22, or some veterans war trophy? We still have a free press, we can report these things and shine the light of public condemnation on them.

And if we don't have a free press anymore . . . well, you know what to do.

TallPine
November 17, 2003, 11:21 PM
So who goes first?
Well, I've about had it with this crappy old world anyway, so it doesn't matter to me.

Beats dying in some nursing home.

Sodbuster
November 17, 2003, 11:32 PM
They
I wouldn't want to be they.

duckfoot
November 17, 2003, 11:42 PM
F 'em

Molon Labe!

Freedspeak
November 18, 2003, 12:03 AM
I'll trust the folks I know in the local area to follow suit or join me, even if the national communication (interent) has broken down. As with any revolution it is a local/personal thing and the 10% can influence the other 90%.

Look at the revolution, a small percentage were very influential there!

BamBam
November 18, 2003, 12:04 AM
To be honest and as much as I hate to say it - I don't believe that first shot would ever be taken. The guns would be collected without resistance.
Werewolf,
I think you hit the nail on the head.
Also, it won't be "All guns must be turned in tomorrow". First it'll be no machine guns after 1986, no more than ten round mags or "assault weapons" after 1994, no scopes or detachable mags after 2004, no autoloaders or jacketed ammo after 2010, etc.

Hell, I have more than enough scopes right now.......why leave my kid fatherless over that next year?

Get the point everyone?

Moparmike
November 18, 2003, 01:52 AM
Which would you rather do? Risk your life or guarantee your child's fate in a tyrannical system without the one last chance for resisting tyrrany that sits in your gunsafe at this very moment?

Personally, I would teach my kid "aim small, miss small.'' But, I am also 20 and single without kids, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.


Personally, the three guns I would take are the only guns I have:

Yugo 24/47 8mm Mauser
Legacy Escort 12ga
EAA Witness 10mm

Provided I were to get any other guns, they would be sold off to a mystery guest from the swamp. I didnt catch his name though.:scrutiny: THen my backyard would suddenly become kindof lumpy.

Poohgyrr
November 18, 2003, 03:56 AM
Well, we already have NYC, Hawaii, and problems here in CA. But more States are shall issue, and even the USSR had problems with forbidden guns in the Eastern Bloc countries. We should continue to vote them out of office. Until then, I want a 10 Ga, an autoloader in .50 BMG, and a .454.......

Cosmoline
November 18, 2003, 11:34 AM
I'm afraid I cannot post a response. Suffice it to say that if you dig a hole for your iron, you might as well jump in too. Let's just hope this never happens.

Black92LX
November 18, 2003, 12:35 PM
A wonderful sentiment. BUT! Who goes first?

Well if this were to happen it would be many years down the road. (hopefully i will be married) so i guess i will be first in my area, and my wife second:neener:

MrPink
November 18, 2003, 12:59 PM
Politics and rebellion aside. To answer the original question:

Rifle: Colt M16A2 Commando
Shotgun: Benelli M1 Entry
Pistol: Colt 1911A1 WWII repro, customized

If NFA items are a no-no, The M16 becomes a CAR-15 and the Entry becomes a M1 Tactical.

Dorrin79
November 18, 2003, 03:37 PM
how coincidental that I only own three guns...

gave the others away, you know...

Springfield 1911
Yugo M48 Mauser
Mossberg 500 12ga

I'd be more inclined to trade my Mauser for an SKS, but as someone pointed out earlier, if we get to that point semi-auto rifles are probably verboten anyway.

:banghead:

MagKnightX
November 18, 2003, 05:34 PM
My P99, my M91/30, and a Browning Citori XS.

Not gonna say I'll bury the rest. If this ban happens, they can go through this and say those who said they wouldn't comply were plotting to commit a crime.

bigmtnman
November 18, 2003, 05:45 PM
If you think it's time to dig a hole, it's really time to dig them up!!

Dave R
November 18, 2003, 05:49 PM
To be honest and as much as I hate to say it - I don't believe that first shot would ever be taken. The guns would be collected without resistance.

Remember Lexington and Concord? Many of the British and many of the Colonials probably felt the same way.

And I guar-an-fricking-tee you that a lotta Texans remember Goliad, and the Alamo, etc. Texas ain't Massachusetts.

Americans don't have a long history, but we do have a history of armed resistance for freedom's sake.

Balog
November 18, 2003, 06:16 PM
Can you say "Battle of Athens"?

Cosmoline
November 18, 2003, 07:51 PM
What I suspect would happen is the law would just sit there. The feds aren't stupid enough to go house-to-house collecting iron. They'll wait. If you make rebellious noises or otherwise cause problems, they'll go after you and you alone using this law as the justification.

Holly76201
November 18, 2003, 08:50 PM
Well, let's see, now. Frank has raised an interesting topic here.
I think, though I'm not sure , he wanted to know what our favorite rifle, shotgun and handgun are.
However it is a chilling scenario. I'll let my husband decide which rifles and shotguns we keep. I'm gonna keep his Gold Cup. It's always been my favorite pistol anyway, and now I have the perfect excuse to appropriate it.
Now when whatever branch of the government asks where the rest of the guns are... "Oh gee, we were thinking about moving, so we had this BIG garage sale last Spring..." And when they come back with a search warrant... no guns there. They've already been buried in a safe place.
If they try to search w/o a warrant, or if Gov't has given them powers to search w/o a warrant, then...
I'll be 49 next year. My Children are grown and very well grown, right thinking adults. And while I'd really like to see my grandchildren grow to maturity, I'd rather they grow up FREE w/o me than be subjects with me.
I'm going through menopause, you don't want to foxtrot with an armed menopausal woman. It's a REALLY, REALLY bad idea.:evil:

RAY WOODROW 3RD
November 18, 2003, 09:16 PM
When only 22% of the registered voters showed up to vote in New Jersey during a major election not that long ago, you get your answer.

78% didn't have the time to pull a lever!

If gunny's can't find the time to vote or get active in their communities, they will not stand up and fight for their 2nd Amendment rights, plain and simple.

Those in Jersey that feel differently, form up at the Bravo Gulf Charlie and await instructions! ;)

OEF_VET
November 18, 2003, 11:06 PM
Holly finally hit the nail on the head. I was essentially asking "what guns do you prefer over all your others?" There are plenty of "What's your favorite rifle/shotgun/pistol?" threads, but none so far that asked the question about all three types at once.

I wasn't expecting all of the "I'll fight the .gov with my last breath as I dig a hole in my backyard" replies.

So, forget the whole new ban scenario. Consider the question to be "If you could only keep one rifle, one shotgun, and one handgun, what would they be?" If you don't like the ban scenario, think of it this way, your mom needs chemotherapy, a heart transplant, a tummy tuck, or whatever. You need to sell most of your guns, except the three you choose, in order to finance this operation. So, what do you keep?

Frank

Zach S
November 19, 2003, 08:47 AM
I'd stock up on ammo and mags. Might even sell a gun or two for more ammo and mag fundage. Might even try to figure out how to modify my thompson to level the playing field a little.

Holly finally hit the nail on the head. I was essentially asking "what guns do you prefer over all your others?" Oh, well, my Kimber Polymer Stainless, my thompson 1927-A1 (my only rifle), and a Mossberg 500 (dont have it yet, damn bills!)

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