The "Cadillac" of Revolvers


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S&Wfan
February 4, 2010, 02:29 AM
The S&W evolution of the "Registered Magnum," "pre-27," "Model 27, and " Model 27-2" are often referred to as the "Cadillac" of Revolvers. No other S&W revolver series was ever as beautiful, with great finishes and finely checkered top straps AND the top of the rear sight even!

This is the big framed model that launched the .357 Magnum cartridge to the world in 1935 . . . and changed revolvers forever. Alas, S&W hasn't made the Model 27 this beautiful for many years now . . . but the vintage ones really get the S&W revolver fans' hearts beating a little faster indeed!

Many think the 3 1/2" barreled Model 27 to be the most beautiful revolver ever made. Others love the 5" version. Still others my prefer the 4" or 6" versions . . . or even longer!



This is my "grail gun," a truly pristine 1970 Model 27-2 with the 3 1/2" barrel that I've wanted for so long. It was worth the wait! The stocks are serial numbered to the gun, of course, and the checkering and the looks are truly gorgeous.

Here's some "eye candy" for those who would like to see how Smith once made their top revolvers . . . pinned barrel, recessed cylinders, premium finishes, gorgeous stocks numbered to the gun, etc. Enjoy!

PS: Hopefully other readers will post their M27s too. Beautiful guns indeed!

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2439044IMG1185pw2.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2439045IMG1202pw2t.jpg

. . . and on a white background . . .

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2438200IMG1138pe3.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2438195IMG1139pi2a.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2438196IMG1130pi2a.jpg
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2438198IMG1136i2a.jpg

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jakk280rem
February 4, 2010, 02:42 AM
normaly i don't post unless i have something constructive to say, but in this case, i'll make an exception. i am speachless.

cyclopsshooter
February 4, 2010, 02:50 AM
I will trade you my re-parked 3" 10-5 +50 bucks cash! cant beat that with a stick-



now off to gunbroker to check out some 27s...

cyclopsshooter
February 4, 2010, 02:53 AM
ooh ooh!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=155564182

C-grunt
February 4, 2010, 03:01 AM
Very beautiful Smith you got there.

Only one problem, its definitely to nice to shoot often.

S&Wfan
February 4, 2010, 03:05 AM
I agree C-grunt! I'd hate to shoot it . . . although it HAS been shot just a little, and I'll probably runs a few cylinders of ammo through it eventually . . . then clean it REAL good!

I've got enough guns to enjoy . . . and it is the first one I've owned that I truly cannot say that fills a niche as a "shooter." I've never owned a "safe queen!"

Nematocyst
February 4, 2010, 03:17 AM
It's a beauty, S&Wfan.

I confess, I've never heard of the 27, I think.

I own a 65, and did own a 686.

I expected to go to the Smith Wesson site and not find 27, but it's there (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=67961&tabselected=over&isFirearm=Y&parent_category_rn=), still in production.

So, please help me understand what's not to like about the new ones (aside from no 3", and I agree that 3"ers rule).

And, how do they compare to the 65/66?

cyclopsshooter
February 4, 2010, 03:23 AM
And, how do they compare to the 65/66?

k-frame 357s are a little sensitive to excessive use of light grain full loads, stretched frames and split forcing cones.

the 27 is heavier too, less felt recoil

Nematocyst
February 4, 2010, 03:44 AM
Oh, interesting.

So the 27 is an L-frame?

cyclopsshooter
February 4, 2010, 04:07 AM
27 is an N frame like the model 29 44 mag

your 686 was an L frame

L frames are basically a k frame with a little bit beefier upper frame components like top strap and yoke/forcing cone area- fixing the problems with the 65-66

by no means are the 65 66 bad guns- i have many and love them dearly

did we just hijack this thread?

Brass Rain
February 4, 2010, 04:07 AM
That is one fantastic, grade-A, top class revolver you've got there. You've my envy.

Nematocyst
February 4, 2010, 04:25 AM
did we just hijack this thread? Nix; just putting the 27 into context.

Thanks.

Oro
February 4, 2010, 05:49 AM
So the 27 is an L-frame?

To put it in perspective, the 27 is a .357 built on the .44 sized frame. The "N" frame was designed to maximize frame size around the .44 special. The K frame would have been the "right" sized frame for the .357, but with the metallurgy of the 1930's, the gun had to be built on the .44 frame to make it durable. The "L" frame is a modern ".357" specific frame - it takes advantage of modern steel and tempering to make the most size-efficient six-shot .357 you can make for long-term durability and comfort. So to compare the S&W Model 27 to today's road-going SUV's - it is the Toyota Land Cruiser of .357 revolvers - in modern terms, very over-built for the ask at hand, but valued because of that.

S&WFan's very proud of this - and well he should be. It's been a goal of mine to track down a nickel 3.5". The 3.5" barrel length was always the least common length from it's introduction in 1935 until that length was discontinued about 1978. And the S&W nickel job on these was unsurpassed. The blue was gorgeous, but the nickel was breath-taking.

In the big N-frame, the 3.5" on the square butt frame gives a balance and quickness altogether missing in most of the other common lengths. It lagged behind in sales except with some law enforcement officers because it wasn't as desirable for hunting and field use. The 3.5" models was reportedly a favorite with FBI agents for a very long time. The very first "Registered Magnum" was given to j. Edgar Hoover in 1935, and I think it was a 3.5". Also, George Patton was an early buyer (RM #95 I believe), and his was also a 3.5". It was the gun on his right hip all during WWII and all those news real videos of him you've seen. A Colt Peacemaker was on his left hip, but he called the 3.5" S&W .357 his "Killing gun."

Here are some pics of my 3.5" - one of my very favorite guns - it gets carried periodically and even on multi-day mountain trips. It's just too nice to leave at home all the time. Don't let the balance and elegance of the gun fool you into thinking it's small and handy - this is a full-sized gun. Even the 3.5" barrel weighs more than a Colt Government Model. It's a serious, full-sized gun even in the short barrel.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd275/kamerer/S-W/27-2/IMGP5002.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd275/kamerer/S-W/27-2/IMGP2975.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd275/kamerer/S-W/27-2/IMGP5462PEF.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd275/kamerer/S-W/27-2/IMGP5463PEF.jpg

MCgunner
February 4, 2010, 06:06 AM
Nice revolver! I don't know, though. When I think "Cadillac" of Revolvers, what usually comes to mind is a Python. :D But, the registered magnum was the first magnum.

Oro
February 4, 2010, 06:37 AM
When I think "Cadillac" of Revolvers, what usually comes to mind is a Python.

I think what you mean is that "when I think Porsche of revolvers" I think of a Python. For excessive engineering and luxury - like the Cadillac - then the 27 is your ticket. The Python runs on a leaner, less elegant frame with a twitchier action - a bit more akin to a Porsche than a Cadillac. I'm not advocating that one is better than the other, but knowing both guns, I agree with S&WFan's title.

Stainz
February 4, 2010, 06:41 AM
Nice examples. Of course, S&W didn't stop making great .357 Magnums with the 27 any more than they did the Registered Magnum that started the caliber. I like to think that they started making them. Certainly, the development of the X8 627 family is a step ahead - to me.

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/IMG_3339.jpg

The '01-'02 5" JM PC627 V-Comp I have has a trigger I use as a standard to judge others by. My '08 4" 627 Pro is close behind it in my collection for it's fine trigger. Sure, it has the production MIM parts and hated IL, separating it forever from some purists' collections. It also has modern touches, like a spring-loaded front sight for tool-less changes; came moonclip ready; has a target barrel and crown, etc, improvements never available on those early 27s, much less the RM.

The greatest attribute is the SS, IMHO. Me and blued guns just don't mix. SS is a user's material. At my point of life - and income - my firearms must be functional. I had lookers... no more. That 627 pair has had the snot shot from them - even before the picture. They clean up easily.

Still - I can appreciate beautiful revolvers - and those early 27's are great examples of such. Thanks for sharing.

Stainz

PS The 627s are also widely available - new - and affordable - almost!!

rogertc1
February 4, 2010, 06:55 AM
acquisition by Bangor Punta Alegre Sugar Corp., a conglomerate based in Bangor, Maine, with operations in railroads, textiles, foundry equipment, sewage disposal systems, yacht manufacturing, commercial finance, grain elevators, and other areas. Bangor Punta paid about $22.6 million to gain control of Smith & Wesson.

Nasty
February 4, 2010, 07:27 AM
I remember these from my early years as a gun nut...and how happy I was to have them (one 27-4 in particular). I also remember though that the pride of my collection was my 6" Python. As good as the Smiths were *then*, the Colt Python stood apart.

The bluing in a Colt in those days was deep...measurable seemingly in inches. The action of the Smiths then was near perfect out of the box, but the Colt hand finished Pythons were glass. I went overseas for a good while and came back to find out that guns were now being made of plastic.

It just ain't been the same since...


Nice stuff ya got there!

Ala Dan
February 4, 2010, 09:10 AM
My vote goes to the Smith & Wesson 3.5" model 27-2, as well~! ;) :D

HGUNHNTR
February 4, 2010, 09:20 AM
Wow, you guys have given me the revolver itch again, thanks a lot!

Shear_stress
February 4, 2010, 09:58 AM
Beautiful!

SaxonPig
February 4, 2010, 10:21 AM
Everyone knows that I love all things 27.

That's a nice one, for sure.

pageophile
February 4, 2010, 10:22 AM
Very, very nice.

While I'm a big Colt Python fan, the Model 27 is a grail gun for myself. Not too many in my neck of the woods (Canada, eh). The 5" model is highly sought after due our laws regarding minimum barrel length.

Thank you for sharing :D

Loosenock
February 4, 2010, 10:27 AM
Very nice, I wish I still had my 27. But....

'Loose

Guillermo
February 4, 2010, 11:29 AM
I like to think that they started making them

I would LIKE to think that too.

MAUSER88
February 4, 2010, 12:11 PM
I would have to agree.

Nematocyst
February 4, 2010, 02:41 PM
Thanks to Oro and Stainz for the two pieces of info below,
copied here for my future easy reference. Very helpful.

Before this, the 27/627 weren't on my radar screen.

Now, a 627 (8-shot) is a contender, a competitor for a 686.

Just wish they made both in either 3" or 5.5" or both.

To put it in perspective, the 27 is a .357 built on the .44 sized frame. The "N" frame was designed to maximize frame size around the .44 special. The K frame would have been the "right" sized frame for the .357, but with the metallurgy of the 1930's, the gun had to be built on the .44 frame to make it durable. The "L" frame is a modern ".357" specific frame - it takes advantage of modern steel and tempering to make the most size-efficient six-shot .357 you can make for long-term durability and comfort. So to compare the S&W Model 27 to today's road-going SUV's - it is the Toyota Land Cruiser of .357 revolvers - in modern terms, very over-built for the ask at hand, but valued because of that.

Of course, S&W didn't stop making great .357 Magnums with the 27 any more than they did the Registered Magnum that started the caliber. I like to think that they started making them. Certainly, the development of the X8 627 family is a step ahead - to me.

Handyguy
February 4, 2010, 03:03 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the bluing of the Dan Wesson revolvers.

OLD208X3A
February 4, 2010, 03:14 PM
That is a magnificent piece! I don't think they get much prettier than that. Bad thing is - now I want one. Just when the beautiful-revolver bug dies down, I see something like this. The only thing I'd add to this whole story is to carry and shoot these beautiful guns - not in an abusive fashion of course. Just a thought from when my father died; it's a good thing to put some wear and tear on it yourself. I think it'd be a shame to pass away and have your heirs remember it as the gun from the back of grandpa's safe. It should be the gun grandpa loved and carried and used often. You and the gun both deserve it. Very nice indeed.

Olympus
February 4, 2010, 03:42 PM
Personally I'm a Python man myself, 4" Royal Blue and 4" E-Nickel, but I'll give your 27 a nod. My father in law just both a 3 1/2 blued and the frame is much beefier than my Pythons. The bluing doesn't hold a candle, but I have to admit that the trigger on the 27 was noticeably lighter, smoother, and more crisp than my factory adjusted Pythons. I'm a full lug man and the 3 1/2" 27 would be the only one I'd want to keep. Nice looking gun you've got. That's a keeper!

Buddhabelly
February 4, 2010, 06:33 PM
I have a 6" Python, 5" model 27 50th anniversary, and a 4" model 19. Love them all. The 19 is most elegant, Python is most beautiful, and 27 is just all around perfect. Python has the best SA and is most accurate in SA. 19 has best DA action, and 27 is the one I'll feed full load high velociy .357 ammo all day.

Yes, I do shoot them all regularly.

Oro
February 4, 2010, 06:50 PM
Just wish they made both in either 3" or 5.5" or both.

Last year Lew Horton distributing had some limited run of N-frame "Classics" - square butt guns with Magna wood grips, 3" barrels and in both blue and nickel. There are probably a few to be found; the runs were small - I think 300 of each model. They now have most of the "classics" as a regular items in 4" or 6."

surfinUSA
February 4, 2010, 09:21 PM
Not to rain on anybody's parade but I had a very similar nickel model 27-2, 3 1/2 inch. The gun was beautiful, accurate and a perfect BBQ gun.

However, it was the one gun I had no use for. If I was going to carry a 357 it was usually my stainless model 65 3 inch or my 4 inch model 66.

If I was goining to carry an N frame it was my 3 inch stainless 629-6.

The model 27-2 or any model 27 is a great gun and I believe the best of the breed as opposed to the Colt Python. But in 357 and N frame guns I believe there are better more usable examples of S&W as those described above.

I sold mine to finance a great shooting trap gun. As far as being a great historical 357 magnum the model 27 is truely the best of the best.

rpf717
February 4, 2010, 09:56 PM
I also think the 27 (27-2 if we are getting specific) is the king of all revolvers. You definitely have a fine one. I'm not saying the Python isn't a fine gun, but it doesn't do anything for me compared to a 27-2!

S&Wfan
February 4, 2010, 10:12 PM
I'm a sucker for 3"-3 1/2" S&W revolvers. My favorite ones of that length are a sweet shootin' Model 65-3 3" . . . and my favorite revolver of all times . . . a chopped barrel Model 25-2 .45ACP revolver with a 3 1/4" or 3 3/8" barrel.

They are both well-used "shootin' irons" and I've won a lot of matches with both through the years.

That being said . . . this "new" to me 27-2 is the first revolver I've ever bought that I'm not wild about shooting. It's "sadly" just a little too perfect . . . and a little too beautiful. I once had a new 27-2 nickle (6") and didn't know not to clean it with Hoppes #9 . . . and ended up clouding the finish a little and having the nickle flake at the front edge of the cylinder.:( So, I want to baby this one . . . even though I imagine I'll run a few rounds down the barrel. However, I already know how sweet the N frames shoot!

It will probably be the nearly look-alike "twin" to my custom 25-2, but in bright, perfect nickle plate. OTOH, my 25-2 is a pure "shooter" and a daily carry companion to my "always" M37 J-frame in a pocket holster. I'll have to take their pictures (M27-2 & M25-2) together very soon and post 'em.

Until then, here are the other two 3" Smiths, the wonderful K-framed M65 and the incredible shooting M25-2 . . . both with thousands of rounds out their barrels and still tight and going strong!

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/246/246167/folders/233364/210304565-3.jpg

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/277718/2250454198025-2.jpg

Thanks for all the kind comments folks!

richkratz
February 5, 2010, 05:48 AM
i own a 5" 27-2 and love it. Best of the best.

SWAddict
February 5, 2010, 10:45 AM
Here is a 6 inch 27-2 that I found in my local "Toy Store". It had sat in the case for about 8 or 9 months and at first I did not pay it any attention as I was just getting into S&W revolvers and did not know much about the various models and such. One day I asked to take a look at it and I became extremely excited. I did not show it so I could be able to negotiate on the price. By it's serial number, this 27-2 was made in about 1977-1978. It was unfired, with no flaws except a ding on the trigger guard. Has a very very light turn ring on the cylinder. No tools but I have acquired a set later after I took these pictures. Got it for $750 OTD and am extremely happy with it. Definitely the finest .357Mag made by S&W.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/spaceme1/DSC03209.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/spaceme1/DSC03204.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/spaceme1/DSC03202.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/spaceme1/DSC03200.jpg

richkratz
February 5, 2010, 10:58 AM
Beautiful..

Dave T
February 5, 2010, 11:52 AM
My "grail gun" when it comes to the Model 27 is the 5". I consider that barrel length the best balanced of all the N-frames. The ultimate for me is this:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww224/desertarcher/2009_1226AB.jpg
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww224/desertarcher/2009_1226AD.jpg

This is a pre-M27 made in late 1954. The cylinder and barrel are stamped with the serial number as is the frame. The Magna stocks are numbered to the gun as well.

Dave

PS: I like the 3.5" as well, just think the 5" is a little better. (smile)

.45FMJoe
February 5, 2010, 05:47 PM
My grail of S&W M27s is a 5", too. One day I'll find one, I just bought a really nice 6" 28-2 off the S&W Forum yesterday. :D

rogertc1
February 5, 2010, 09:29 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/rogertc1/SW627Pref.jpg

orionengnr
February 5, 2010, 11:00 PM
I had a 6" P&R M-27 for a while, but I really wanted a 5" P&R M-27. Found one about three years ago and sold the 6". It's not perfect, bit of holster wear, but it is beautiful to me.

I seldom carry it, because I have N-frames in .41 and .45LC, both in 4".

But every time I do an inventory and "thin the herd", the M-27 manages to make the cut. It is the perfect meeting of form and function. I cannot bear the thought of selling it. I recently (yet again) made a list of all my handguns (approximately 20 in all) and put numbers next to them (if I could only keep one, it is numbered 1; if I could keep one more, it is numbrered 2...the bottom of the list gets put up for sale) The M-27 is number five, which means I would have to sell fifteen others before it is in danger.

To continue the analogy, the M-27 is not a Cadillac, and it's not a Porsche. It may be a Corvette; appreciated beyond all reason, long in history, a bit high priced, but to those of us who appreciate it, nothing else can replace it.

SSN Vet
February 5, 2010, 11:37 PM
Wow! Simply wow!

What a beautiful revolver

sgt127
February 6, 2010, 12:06 AM
Well...if we are going to talk about Registered Magnums...we should have pictures.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j277/sgt127/rm2-1.jpg


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j277/sgt127/RM4.jpg


And, a 3 1/2" pre 27 posing with a Randall #15


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j277/sgt127/357-15.jpg

messerist
February 6, 2010, 10:11 PM
I'm not sure how you would classify my Model 27. I just got her a few years back. It is from the S&W Classics line. I sure do like her though. I plan to get old with this one. The leather is from El Paso Saddlery.
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt204/messerist/RobinandSmithWesson033.jpg

Confederate
February 7, 2010, 12:29 AM
Beautiful gun, but I had a Model 29 that was almost perfect...very much like this gun. It was nickel plated and didn't have one blemish on it. I got smooth wood grips for it (which S&W sent me FREE when I complained about the cheese grater grips that came with it). I kept them when I subsequently bought a 629.

I managed to mar the surface of my 29 by using Hoppes gun cleaner, which is not supposed to be used on nickel guns. If any of the cleaner isn't wiped away immediately, it makes a permanent mark on the gun. In time it also will remove the nickel, which I didn't know at the time.

I would love a 27 like that, but I wouldn't carry it or even shoot it.

Today's Smiths are ugly brutes without any real personality. They're still very good guns, but they lack the attention to detail they once had. The stainless models look like they've been sandpapered by apes.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/jriler/SW629_5-1.jpg

This 629 also is a beauty and, alas, they don't make guns like this
anymore. Counterbored chambers, pinned barrel, stamped sideplate.
I'm sorry I got rid of my nickel 29. It was one of the most beautiful
guns I've ever owned.

22-rimfire
February 7, 2010, 12:12 PM
Great pictures and comments. I always referred to the Colt Python as the "Cadillac" of revolvers. I have owned a few. I sold my "cadillacs" as I guess I'm mostly a Ford man. :)

HexHead
February 7, 2010, 12:20 PM
I think what you mean is that "when I think Porsche of revolvers" I think of a Python. For excessive engineering and luxury - like the Cadillac - then the 27 is your ticket. The Python runs on a leaner, less elegant frame with a twitchier action - a bit more akin to a Porsche than a Cadillac. I'm not advocating that one is better than the other, but knowing both guns, I agree with S&WFan's title.

On their website, Colt refers to the Python as having been called the "Rolls-Royce of revolvers." I tend to agree. :)

altez
February 7, 2010, 01:08 PM
Shoot, that revolver looks so beautiful.

Peter M. Eick
February 7, 2010, 03:17 PM
Might as well add some Registered pictures.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/reg_box.jpg

Here is mine with a Registered Box.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/registration_number.jpg

The Registration number for those that don't own one.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/single_action.jpg

I shoot mine. Here is 50 shots per target, offhand 15 yrds, Stout load of 2400 with a 158 SWC shot single action.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/double_action.jpg

I shoot mine. Here is 50 shots per target, offhand 15 yrds, Stout load of 2400 with a 158 SWC shot double action.

Buck Snort
February 8, 2010, 01:34 AM
Excuse the live'n snot out of me but the "Cadillac" of revolvers is the Freedom Arms Model 83.

joe_security
February 8, 2010, 09:30 AM
The late great Major George C. Nonte, one of the premier gun writers of the 70s had taken a Model 27 to Iraq back in the day. His was fitted with a shoulder stock . He brought enough reloading gear to produce enough ammo for the trip. Kurdish tribesman were amazed at the power and accuracy of the .357. Rams were taken in the mountains. Major Nonte left the revolver with the kurds after departing for the states.

Stainz
February 8, 2010, 11:12 AM
Sadly, we cannot go back in time to change the implements our early writer's used. Neither can we go back and order a RM in our name via the local hardware store. The odd stash of good safe queens has seemingly dried up. Users are commanding collector prices. I've had safe-queens and users - the latter just don't interest me - nothing looks worse to me than worn blueing on a revolver. I continued the 'storage' of the safe queens. Only when I bought new SS did I shoot with abandon, the easy cleanup being my friend. Oddly, my S&Ws, matte or gloss SS, must have been made when the 'sanding apes' were at lunch... and someone forgot the 'plastic', too. Oops, that blue plastic box!

Seriously, I love a good looking older firearm - be it an RM or a Brown Bess - in good shape - is neat to look at. Ratty, well, they are just an old gun. I'll take a modern SS S&W - and a modern bolt action rifle, too. We can agree to disagree on this, but before you wholesale dispatch me as a 'young loon', at least try a modern SS S&W - one with, gasp, MIM parts and the IL, before you blast me. And be nice - I'll hit 62 this summer and start collecting my Social Security - if anything is left!

Still, a nice 27 is a nice revolver, I'll grant you that. I like X8 moonclips...

Stainz

SNoB
February 10, 2010, 12:27 PM
Im not normally a huge revolver fan, but this is a beautiful handgun.

bigi
June 21, 2012, 09:41 AM
Here is mine:
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Iggy
June 21, 2012, 03:32 PM
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/Santagrips.jpg
They are kinda purty.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/NiMDL27.jpg
I carry this one so I don't mess up the blue on the one above.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/Model27Carbine.jpg
Snagged this one in a pawn shop last week. Model 27 carbine;)

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/PB060004.jpg?t=1289084959

5" bbl handles the best.

Cocked & Locked
June 21, 2012, 06:17 PM
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259637/400077143.jpg

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259637/394843551.jpg

Stainz
June 21, 2012, 06:48 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Risking being termed myopic, this is my impression of a true high end S&W .357 Magnum, a 2 5/8" PC627 UDR:

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/033-2.jpg

Stainz

JohnBT
June 21, 2012, 07:48 PM
Sorry, that's a great gun, but the form just doesn't flow like the Smith does. And I'm a Python fan.

skidder
June 21, 2012, 08:19 PM
This thread awesome. Thanks all for the pics.

Hanshi
June 21, 2012, 08:24 PM
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt74/hanshi_photo/PICT0490-2.jpg
My 27-2 from many years ago with 5" barrel replacing original 6". Sent to S&W sometime in the 1970s and they did the switch.
Can't seem to navigate this photobucket maze since they messed it up. Just a bit of my 27 is visible.

ADKWOODSMAN
June 21, 2012, 08:27 PM
The 3 1/2" blued has always been on my to "have" list. That list also includes the 8 3/8"!

BBQLS1
June 22, 2012, 09:37 AM
Wow this thread started in 2010, but I've enjoyed the pictures.

I'd love a 3.5 inch M27, but I just have the lowly 4" M28.

Flint Ridge
June 27, 2012, 12:40 AM
A couple carbines like Iggy says...

An unfired (other than factory)

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab348/Flint_Ridge/27-2/DSC02836.jpg

And an early S prefix circa my birthyear for something to shoot.

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab348/Flint_Ridge/2-4-2012%20Long%20tubes/DSC03004.jpg

CDR_Glock
June 27, 2012, 12:51 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/18fe9fbd-828c-af01.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/18fe9fbd-829e-8c13.jpg

My buddy just acquired the 8" Python for me. Now I'll have 2 Pythons, both Royal Blue, one in 4" and the other in 8".

The S&W Performance series 627 is a nice gun. I have it in a 5" barrel. I also have a Pro Series 627 4".

My Ruger GP100 is another favorite with a 6" barrel.

I like all brands of revolvers.

CraigC
June 27, 2012, 01:08 AM
Colt refers to the Python as having been called the "Rolls-Royce of revolvers." I tend to agree.
A little wishful thinking on Colt's part, obviously marketing drivel written by someone who had no experience with Rolls-Royce.

Guillermo
June 27, 2012, 06:17 PM
obviously marketing drivel written by someone who had no experience with Rolls-Royce

true,

Rolls Royce never produced a decent car until the Germans bought them.

Stainz
June 27, 2012, 09:00 PM
A casual thought... a true 'Cadillac' would not have a stick shift - manual transmission. That would seem to leave out the SA crowd... bye bye Freedom Arms! Back to Colts, which aren't made anymore, or S&W's... or, gasp, Korths!

Stainz

Pancake81
June 27, 2012, 11:10 PM
Jeez Guys, some real beauty here!

CraigC
June 27, 2012, 11:38 PM
Rolls Royce never produced a decent car until the Germans bought them.
The point is that Rolls-Royce builds their cars by hand to the customer's specifications. Not unlike high end British game guns and rifles. Which would be a good analogy. You can compare a $50,000 bespoke Rigby or Bowen's #5 recreation to a bespoke car, not a $1200 Colt.

Guillermo
June 28, 2012, 12:52 AM
The point is that Rolls-Royce builds their cars by hand to the customer's specifications. Not unlike high end British game guns and rifles. Which would be a good analogy

Ah...point well made

I concur

Cocked & Locked
June 28, 2012, 07:23 AM
?

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/402180620.jpg

CraigC
June 28, 2012, 11:22 AM
A casual thought... a true 'Cadillac' would not have a stick shift - manual transmission.
You can order certain versions of the CTS with a manual, six speed I believe. So SA's are in. :D

gym
June 28, 2012, 11:53 AM
I have never seen a 27 before and I have been into colt and S&W revolvers since the late 60 early 70's. So I don't know how that one got past me. It is probablly the nicest looking one in S&W's 357 lineup. Good luck with it, some lucky kid is going to inherit it someday I would imagine.

PabloJ
June 28, 2012, 12:09 PM
?

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2169/3082611/6259764/402180620.jpg
Yes, that would be 'Cadillac' of the revolver world. When I think of revolver Colt automatically comes to mind.

Stainz
June 29, 2012, 11:59 AM
CraigC,

Poor research on my part! The 2012 standard sport sedan RWD CTS base model (3.0L V6 270hp) comes with MT - local dealer said he'd never sold one!

So, I guess, the expensive SA revolver with the Ruger-like writing on the barrel is in. Sigh. My S&W 2 5/8" PC627 UDR is still a beaut in my myopic vision...
http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/015-1.jpg

Stainz

788Ham
June 29, 2012, 02:47 PM
I never thought of the Colt Python as a Cadillac, more along the lines of Bentley or a Rolls Royce. I'll never own either one of those cars, but a 6" Python I do own.

19-3Ben
June 29, 2012, 05:21 PM
comes with MT - local dealer said he'd never sold one!


So sad. Driving with a MT is probably something that the next generation of drivers will never learn, and the next generation of mechanics won't even know how to work on. Even in Europe AT is becoming more and more popular.

I like my guns like I like my cars. Manually operated! (revolvers, lever guns, pump shot guns, etc..) I have autoloaders, but there is a certain appreciation that you have for a mechanism when you are an active part in the operation of the mechanism.

To answer the OP's question... I'd say Colt Python. It's the last step in guns that could be affordable to a reasonable number of people before you get into insane pricing like a Korth. Same thing with Caddy. A reasonable number of everyday people could pony up $45,000 for a Caddy, whereas a minuscule number of the population could afford a Bently/Rolls.

S&W-Keeper
June 29, 2012, 09:09 PM
Great pictures, fantastic revolver. The are one of my favorites.

savit260
June 30, 2012, 05:44 PM
Poor research on my part! The 2012 standard sport sedan RWD CTS base model (3.0L V6 270hp) comes with MT - local dealer said he'd never sold one!

Behold the 2012 CTS-V


http://www.cadillac.com/cts-v-luxury-sedan.html?seo=goo_|_2012_Cadillac_Retention_|_IMG_Cadillac_CTS-V_|_CTS-V_Specs_|_cts_v_specs

Here's some highlights for ya... not exactly the "bargain basement base model". ;)

The 6.2L supercharged V8 boasts 556 HP and 551 lb.-ft. of torque. It features an Eaton Roots-type intercooler to cool the air before it’s mixed with the fuel, producing power in spades. In fact, it has a 0–60 time of a mere 3.9 seconds

Drivers who want total control will appreciate the TREMECŪ manual transmission with six-speed gearbox, short-throw shifter and dual-disc clutch. Of course, some may wonder—why manual? Because there are some things a man must do himself.

Stainz
June 30, 2012, 07:28 PM
Oh thanks a lot! Now I want a CTS-V! Just what I need - a US-made car that costs over twice what I paid for my home in '76! That is something to lust for...

Oddly, my wife ordered her own 'pocket rocket' eight years ago this August - an '05 Dodge SRT-4. The intercooled turbo 2.4L I4 put out 235hp at the front wheels (Reportedly, nearly 300hp at the block!). The Getrag 5sp MT was fine, till the clutch wouldn't fully release - we traded it on a new '12 Wrangler Unlimited in Gecko Green just over a month ago, a color my wife waited for since before Christmas. Big change - from eatting Mustangs, Sub WRX's, etc, to sedate...
http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/securedownload.jpg

As to revolvers, I'll stick with S&W, as they are it for upper echelon current construction DA capable US-made revolvers. I wonder how many I'll have to say goodbye to in order to make a down payment on a CTS-V? I got a new car 8/04 - a 2WD '05 Jeep Liberty V6 auto - I thought I loved it - got a range bag to match it... it's behind the quacamole mobile above. Yep, I drive the 'soccer mom's' ride... to the range. Then I just had to see that CTS-V. How do you un-see that siren automobile? Yeah, thanks a lot savit260!

Stainz

PS A friend photo-shopped the picture... my wife doesn't like the zombie markings... go figure!

bubba15301
June 30, 2012, 07:50 PM
i would rather have a colt revolver

bikemutt
June 30, 2012, 10:09 PM
new '12 Wrangler Unlimited ditto, although mine's a light blue. Darn, I don't own enough Smiths to trade for the Cadillac. Silly me, I always thought a G-meter was something else :o

CraigC
July 1, 2012, 06:45 PM
The CTS-V is a sexy beast for sure!

Those new Jeeps ain't exactly cheap either though. ;)

Gonna keep my `04 Silverado for a while longer though, a new version is $20,000 more than I paid for mine. Although I must admit to an unreasonable affinity for the new Jaguar XJ. :D


So, I guess, the expensive SA revolver with the Ruger-like writing on the barrel is in.
When I think high dollar luxury with loads of class, I like to think more along the lines of a case colored/carbona blued USFA flat-top target model .44Spl. The FA is more of a sterile, precision instrument......like a Mercedes.

savit260
July 1, 2012, 08:38 PM
When I think high dollar luxury with loads of class, I like to think more along the lines of a case colored/carbona blued USFA flat-top target model .44Spl. The FA is more of a sterile, precision instrument......like a Mercedes

I'd be thrilled with just a basic CCH/Dome Blue standard Single Action .

I'm in love with the sights on the Shooting Master and Sparrowhawk. Like to see them on a CCH/Blue version with a 5 1/2" barrel in .45 Colt myself.

sgtstryker
July 1, 2012, 10:13 PM
Nice. Very nice. Mine's a 27-2 blued TT, TH. patridge front sight. Shoots good with magnum loads and like a dream with .38's. Where ever that guns been, it has been well taken care of. Enjoy and thanks.

surfinUSA
July 2, 2012, 07:21 PM
I had a beautiful 27-2, 3 1/2 inch gun (Just like the op's). I purchased it cheap ($250) at a pawn shop. It was tight and accurate however, the previous owner must have kept it in a leather holster and the finish was gone on both sides of the cylinder. But there was no pitting or other metal damage.

I sent it to S&W had it nickled and it was beautiful, great trigger, accurate, truly the cadillac of 357's, contrary to my prior belief that the title was held by the Python. A great BBQ gun.

Why did I sell it? It became a safe queen. When I needed a 357 mag, I carried a lighter more durable (finish wise) stainless K frame (probably the best all around 357s) and when I needed to carry an N frame it was a stainless 44 mag.

I have no regrets, it was a cool gun to have and show off to friends my age and it shot well (Better than their Pythons). But my 3 inch trail boss is just a better ulitarian gun. The Model 27 was great back in the day 80+ years ago. But better cartridges (the 41 mag and 44 mag) have come along and made the 27 obsolete. Just too big, to heavy for the round that it fires.

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