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stuckinsocal
February 5, 2010, 10:29 PM
So, when I was at work today I was thinking....
How many of you guys carry while at work? If you do carry, what type of job do you have and method of carry?

Unfortunately, I can't carry yet since it's virtually impossible to get a carry permit in CA :fire: and I'm not a cop yet (in hiring process with the sheriff's department). I currently work in construction, so even if I had a permit I couldn't carry because of the nature the job.

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Mt Shooter
February 5, 2010, 10:33 PM
I cant carry at work, Government Building thing. Wish I could last week we had some guy threaten to come down "there" and have some fun and then kill himself. We had our own personal police patrol for the week.

arizona98tj
February 5, 2010, 10:35 PM
While I have a CCW permit, I can't carry at work, which happens to be in the middle of a nuclear power generating station. I carry the other 3 days of the week I am not at work.

Resto Guy
February 5, 2010, 10:44 PM
I would not carry at work because of enviromental conditions - dust, welding sparks, etc. My gun stays in my vehicle, which is about 50 ft. from the entry door. My employer knows I have a concealed permit and has even asked me to carry on a trip we took once. I have gun related items mailed to my work address and if I want to, I can practice out back behind the building.
Pretty lucky, huh?

SiRed91
February 5, 2010, 10:47 PM
Jealous ^

I carry at work, but im just in a cubicle at home all day, literally at home.

mokin
February 6, 2010, 12:36 AM
Upon reflection it sort of depends on the season and what I'm doing. In the summer/"nice weather" I carry almost all the time. Lots of work outdoors, remote places, etc. just sort of where the client wants me. In the winter/"more nasty weather", when I'm indoors, frequenting government offices and schools I carry less frequently. Then again, I do a lot of construction in the winter as well and carry then too.

billdeserthills
February 6, 2010, 12:44 AM
I carry at work, although if I am going to be doing work in your home or business (I am a Locksmith/Gun Dealer) I remove my open carry gun (still leaves at least two others) I just don't want to scare the folks from back east and I feel it is only polite. The only way I will be kept from carrying at least concealed will require metal detectors!

dakotasin
February 6, 2010, 12:47 AM
i carry at work - i work in an office.

ShooterMcGavin
February 6, 2010, 01:06 AM
I recently got a new job. The company is new, so there is not yet a company policy against the carry of guns. I really wish I could have an influence, so that, when the topic comes up, we can have the ability to carry at work. I do not think that will ever be allowed. I have found out that my boss is very against handguns, so I can't get caught. I carry a PF-9 IWB and wear shirts that are a bit longer than a T-shirt.

All of my past jobs have required that I not carry, so I carried using an ankle holster (at the risk of losing my job if caught). It was better than leaving the gun in the car, which was also against company policy.

WC145
February 6, 2010, 08:37 AM
I have two jobs, one is as a LEO, one as a respiratory therapist. Obviously there's no issues carrying at the first one, however, the hospital has a no weapons policy for employees. After speaking to the HR director, who in turn spoke to the CEO, the decision was made that there is a benefit to having an armed LEO on the premises (it's a very small rural hospital with no security except the maintenance guys) and they waived the the weapons policy in my case. I wear scrubs when working and carry a J-frame in an ankle holster.

Interestingly, when we were having this discussion, the subject of CCW permit holders came up and they asked if we should have the hospital posted with "no weapons" signs like some others in the area. I told them that I didn't think it was necessary and explained the process that a permit holder goes through to get it and how the only people that would be affected by would be the law abiding and anyone intent on doing something bad would ignore it. I was quite surprised when they saw the logic in my argument and agreed to leave things the way they were.

Walkalong
February 6, 2010, 09:14 AM
Not an option for me.

yakkingallover
February 6, 2010, 09:20 AM
I kinda carry at work. I work in a machine shop and usually leave it in my toolbox, unless it is night time or early morning and I am alone. If I carry it all day it bangs into everything and gets dirty,sweaty and greasy. I also keep a 12 ga. pump in a lower drawer of my toolbox so I guess I qualify as carrying at work.

DeepSouth
February 6, 2010, 09:34 AM
I don't carry while at work mainly because if I got caught I'd be be fired.:eek:
I carry the entire rest of the day. When I get out of my truck I disarm and go into the mill, when I get back to my truck I rearm.

wishin
February 6, 2010, 10:10 AM
I'm now retired, so it's not an issue. When I was working, it was not permitted on the job. I did keep a handgun in my truck in the employee parking lot, although it was also prohibited. The lot was only a 60 second walk.

flhtcuibyhd
February 6, 2010, 11:49 AM
Carrying will get you fired where I work. Not even allowed in your vehicle when on company property. That even includes knives.

MachIVshooter
February 6, 2010, 11:56 AM
even if I had a permit I couldn't carry because of the nature the job.

How so? I'm a mechanic, which is one of the most demanding jobs in terms of having to contort yourself into strange positions under hoods and dashboards to reach things. Yet I do not find this a hinderance in keeping my belt-clipped P-32 at the 5 O'clock inside my pants.

My PF-9 is a little too large, so it stays in my coat pocket in the office, or in my car when the weather is too warm to have a jacket.

Boss knows I carry, and knows I'm responsible, so feels just fine about it. He's not a fellow gunny and doesn't own one, but has absoutely nothing against them, either. Just not his cup of tea.

Texas Gun Person
February 6, 2010, 12:02 PM
I do not carry at work.

Lockheed Martin... you get the idea. HUGE no no with very bad consequences if you were caught. Cannot have firearms anywhere on their property.

ozarkgunner
February 6, 2010, 12:05 PM
I was recently laid off. But I did carry at work. I was a working supervisor, so I kept my pistol in my office, holstered to a bracket under my desk I made. We weren't allowed to carry or bring weapons into the builiding, but, I wasn't going to make me or other empolyees needless victums.
Weapons were a common site previously at my old job, but an incident with someone getting shot in the hand with a BB gun, got all guns banned from the builiding.

I guess it depends on the job environment and how you feel about being reprimanded or fired for not complying with company regs. I will always be carrying at least in my vehicle.

franconialocal
February 6, 2010, 01:44 PM
Full time (and then some) LEO...so there you have it!! I ALWAYS have a sidearm within reach....and my AR isn't far behind.

rickomatic
February 6, 2010, 01:56 PM
It may not always be possible, but sometimes a "don't ask, don't tell" approach is warranted.
I recently had a discussion with a couple co-workers who candidly admitted to doing what I have been doing.
Jobs can be replaced. Lives cannot.

shadowalker
February 6, 2010, 02:00 PM
If your company has a policy against carrying I'm not sure this is a great topic to discuss on a public forum. You are not as anonymous as you believe and especially if you mention employer names it may come back on you.

The consequences for me would be being fired and banned from ever working for the second largest private employer in the area.

MinnMooney
February 6, 2010, 02:02 PM
Retired now. Couldn't really carry at work (Gov't. office) when I did work but I did anyway - sometimes. When I worked ouside, I'd carry all of the time but not so much when I knew that I'd have to be in all day. My weapon was still in my vehicle, though.

junyo
February 6, 2010, 02:09 PM
I work in NYC, so... yeah. :mad:

B yond
February 6, 2010, 02:13 PM
it's virtually impossible to get a carry permit in CA

That just depends on which county you're in.

I have a CA CCW, and work is the only place I don't carry due to some stupid policy that was probably put in place for insurance reasons.

DFW1911
February 6, 2010, 02:15 PM
Yes, and I allow my staff to carry as well, permit or not. If we leave the office, however, the jurisdiction laws must be adhered to.

I have several CHLs who always carry. Some of the other folks will keep a pistol in their cube / office. It's not a requirement to carry, just an option, and many don't.

We work in a very nice office tower, wear suit and tie, and frequently work into the evening. We also have a policy that nobody can be in the office alone: there always has to be two, and one is normally armed.

For a professional job and setting, I was pleasantly surprised by how many "thank yous" I received when I made carrying optional. What really caught me off guard was how many women appreciated it since they, too, work into the evening and were uncomfortable walking to their vehicles.

Even though we have controlled-access parking and a security guard or two to escort them, I think the ladies who carry might just be more of the "security" detail than the guy carrying the flashlight!

stuckinsocal
February 6, 2010, 02:33 PM
Mach IVshooter: Maybe a smaller gun would work then....if I could carry. The smallest I have is a Taurus 85. I don't really think I could carry it though because I'm constantly going in atics, under houses, and other awkward places, along with all the other debris I'm exposed to at a construction site.

B yond: I'm in San Diego county. We don't get permits here unless you rich enough and know the right people. I'm hoping that I get in with the Sheriff's department sometime soon, I'm in the hiring process right now.

CoRoMo
February 6, 2010, 03:13 PM
I carry everyday.

I'm the boss here.

IWB holster on my hip.

AZ_Rebel
February 6, 2010, 03:42 PM
I open carry a 1911 - Condition 1 - at work. I am a "machine" shop manager.

wishin
February 6, 2010, 09:47 PM
I carry everyday.

I'm the boss here.

IWB holster on my hip.

That must make you either a retired bachelor, a business owner or a married woman gun owner!:)

Jaxinc
February 7, 2010, 03:13 AM
Work at a hotel.

Wear a shoulder holster under top shirt and Smith 6904.

Obviously hotels carry a no weapon policy, even frown on knives, so ya.

Bobarino
February 7, 2010, 03:56 AM
i own my own business and carry every day. :D i fully encourage any and all legal carry in my store. for customers and employees. it's good to be the boss.

Blackrock
February 7, 2010, 09:32 AM
I work for a Government agency and carying is a no no. But I have had to spend a lot of time in Douglas Az on the border. My boss knows I have a ccw and told me that he didn't want to know what I did but to be safe down there.

thorazine
February 7, 2010, 12:48 PM
Always.

There is a policy against it.


However they don't have any metal detectors or mind reading devices operational at the present time. :D

Taurus 617 CCW
February 7, 2010, 01:12 PM
I work as a gunsmith in an "evil black rifle" facility. We were required to obtain a CHL prior to being hired and are required to carry at work. Best job in the world!

SWDoc
February 7, 2010, 02:14 PM
Medical office, I own it. Carry every day. Wife is an HR manager, cannot carry or have a firearm in the car, so does not. Knife, Sharkie, and some time learning about improvised weapons has to do for her.

Steve

Defense Minister
February 7, 2010, 08:04 PM
I'm an electrician, and I carry at work. The owner of the company, vice president, and my immediate supervisor all carry daily, so it isn't an issue with my employer. I just have to be discreet about it around customers. I bought a Kel-Tec PF-9 specifically for carry at work because I didn't have any sub-compact pistols, and I carry IWB in a Crossbreed Supertuck, usually with my company logo T-shirt tucked in.

Erik M
February 7, 2010, 08:06 PM
Federal agency employer but if you have a CWL you can lock it in your car in the parking lot.

Strahley
February 7, 2010, 08:10 PM
I can't at work, but if something goes down I can be outside the back door and in my car with whichever gun I have in the car in about 10 seconds

I'm working on getting the sign taken down at work though. Wish me luck

Autolycus
February 7, 2010, 08:30 PM
For those who carry at work against their employers wishes, perhaps you should obtain new employment. You did agree to follow the rules of the employer so taking the paycheck while brazenly breaking the rules is lying. I would resign or give my boss an ultimatum, that either a be allowed to carry at work or I will be leaving. That seems to be the high road thing to do.

357mag.
February 7, 2010, 08:46 PM
I carry while at work.I service/work on elevators in pretty much every kind of building you can think of.Many in some VERY high crime areas.Company would'nt like it,but I really don't care.Even in these hard times I can/will find another job,can't replace my life.

ar24095
February 7, 2010, 09:10 PM
I own a convenience store and there is at least one employee carrying on every shift and most times there are two of us carrying.

dld
February 7, 2010, 09:23 PM
stuckinsocal

when I had a job I worked construction and carried everyday.
I have a S&W 340PD 357mag in my front pocket for the last 6-8 years.
did not matter if I was wearing a tool belt, climbing through rafters it was with me.
nobody knew I was carrying and never suspected it.
wear pant a size or two bigger so they are baggy and slip it in your pocket:D

Wade
February 7, 2010, 09:35 PM
I'm one of three owners of the business. I've carried every day for the last 8 years. If the other partners know, they've never mentioned it and I don't feel the need to confirm it nor justify it :D

Webbj0219
February 7, 2010, 09:48 PM
StuckinSocal, I was wondering if you even need a permit to carry at work. I live in NH, in this state a ccw is not required at home or at work

(N.H. R.S.A. 159:4) 2. Carrying Without a License: It is illegal, under New Hampshire law, to carry a pistol or revolver concealed upon your person, except in your dwelling or house, or place of business, without a license; whoever violates this section shall, for the first offense, be guilty of a MISDEMEANOR. For the second or subsequent violation of this section, such person shall be guilty of a CLASS B FELONY.

So with this in mind I was going through California gun law. I have to admit this was no small task, CA has alot more code than NH in this. So after a while I came apon this. California Penal Code Section 12031

(h) Nothing in this section shall prevent any person engaged in any lawful business, including a nonprofit organization, or any officer, employee, or agent authorized by that person for lawful purposes connected with that business, from having a loaded firearm within the person's place of business, or any person in lawful possession of private property from having a loaded firearm on that property.

If I were you I would read through this to be sure. the wording is vague. and earlier it outlines basically that only LEO and retired LEO are allowed to carry permitless. a lil confusing. It may take a good hour to read through all of it, I just skimmed. Here is a link http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/legal/pc12031.html

Also toward the end it says you can carry legally if you felt that you were in extreme danger such as you filed a restraining order etc... and that the court will take that into account if you violated CA CCW laws. So if you could convince the court that you believed your life was in grave danger they would wave any ccw charges. Id recomend erring on the side of caution here especially if you want to be a LEO.

wishin
February 7, 2010, 10:10 PM
I own a convenience store and there is at least one employee carrying on every shift and most times there are two of us carrying.
I'd be interested in learning from someone such as yourself, that's in the business, whether most convenience store owners are now requiring that employees have CCW training and instruction. Is there a retailer association specific to your industry that advocates this? How do you deal with that aspect of their employment?

ironcode
February 8, 2010, 07:57 AM
For those who carry at work against their employers wishes, perhaps you should obtain new employment. You did agree to follow the rules of the employer so taking the paycheck while brazenly breaking the rules is lying. I would resign or give my boss an ultimatum, that either a be allowed to carry at work or I will be leaving. That seems to be the high road thing to do.
Actually, you're not agreeing that you won't be carrying. What you're agreeing to is that you'll be fired if they catch you. Seriously. Read your company policy.

cpalmer777
February 8, 2010, 03:06 PM
I carry at work. I am a Vice President of a company that provides services to the Department of Defense. I’ve been carrying my little friend (S&W 642 with a Crimson Trace) around for years. She rests quite comfortably in an Uncle Mikes #3 pocket holster. This combination is so comfortable that I also were it around the house.

dmancornell
February 8, 2010, 03:24 PM
Private corporate office. No carrying, not even a pocket knife. No car lockbox. Campus is guarded by Securitas rent-a-cops. Zero deterrent as far as I'm concerned.

At least the campus is huge and I have quick access to several laboratories with very sturdy locked doors. If I get hurt, I'm suing my employer for big money. They can definitely afford it considering they just made a $1.4 billion legal payoff without even blinking.

DERGLOCKINMEISTER
February 8, 2010, 03:35 PM
I own the business , carry all day , every day . Glock ( big surprise ) 26 IWB on left side . My son carries at work as well . Employees are welcome to but most don't . It will be a better world when law abiding citizens are encouraged to protect themselves .

okespe04
February 9, 2010, 12:03 PM
I own the business , carry all day

Me too

bottom shelf
February 9, 2010, 11:21 PM
I carry everyday at work. I'm not a boss or owner, just a peon. It's a metal shop with about 10 people in the shop and 6 in the office. I'm in the shop part.

I carefully read the employee handbook when I hired on, and there is no mention of weapons of any kind. 2 of the fellers in the office frequent the same range I do, and they know I carry, but I don't think the bosses know. If they do, they've never said anything.

friscolatchi
February 10, 2010, 12:59 AM
I work in a hospital and keep it locked in a cabled lock box in the car. It takes a little time to get set up when I arrive and depart, but it's worth the added time to have my little black companion on my belt for the drive home in the wee hours.

shenandoah
February 10, 2010, 01:05 AM
I carry concealed at work, the boss either carries concealed or has a 1911 under the counter. We work in a pawnshop.

Dr. Fresh
February 10, 2010, 03:51 AM
I carry my NAA mini. I have no idea what my employer's policy is. If there's a handbook I've never seen it. I see no reason to ask.

wishin
February 10, 2010, 09:35 AM
I carry everyday at work. I'm not a boss or owner, just a peon. It's a metal shop with about 10 people in the shop and 6 in the office. I'm in the shop part.

I carefully read the employee handbook when I hired on, and there is no mention of weapons of any kind. 2 of the fellers in the office frequent the same range I do, and they know I carry, but I don't think the bosses know. If they do, they've never said anything.

Since it's not a stated policy, keep it to yourself and carry on.

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