Who's Never Run Across Range Jerks?


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Skunkabilly
November 17, 2003, 06:53 PM
All these threads about people running into other shoots are the range dissing their gear and new shooter's marksmanship has me curious. I've only been shooting for several years (since my 21st birthday) but have never run across anyone dissing my guns or telling me I suck.

I run across the guys that are a bit unsafe of course, but even the gangsta lookin guys that come in are cordial toward me.

Only negative stuff I ever had happen was at competitions where guys wouldn't tape or the next squad would start doing stage walkthroughs while my squad's guys were at the starting point waiting for them to clear it out and stop picking up brass so we could go hot :rolleyes:

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tlhelmer
November 17, 2003, 07:05 PM
I have had a lot of good luck at the range. I believe "gun people" are good people in general.

In fact, I have run into more people at the range who offered to let me shoot their interesting guns than anything close to jerk.

Spot77
November 17, 2003, 07:09 PM
Nope....can't think of any bad times at the range like that...

It also helps that I usually shoot with Norton, other THR members, or some new shooter friends that I might bring :D Keeps at least one lane filled with somebody I know.

sidearm
November 17, 2003, 07:19 PM
Hey there Skunk, I've seen your guns online - they are NICE. I'm sure not many would fun ya about 'em. Except the carbon factor -maybe- hehe. Anyway, did a lot of shooting up at Angeles Shooting Range out of Sunland, and the only weird looks would be from the people that were just starting or getting into shooting. Of course there was the wannbe gansta facta goin' on there too. Other than that most folks into gunning are great.

Holly76201
November 17, 2003, 07:30 PM
Nope, never had a problem at the range we go to most often.
Although we usu go to a friend's ranch instead of the range. It's free. But sometimes we want to shoot and it's too wet to go to the ranch. If it's been raining for a day or two the ground out there is too muddy even for a 4x4.
The only place we shoot in competition is the Dallas Pistol Club. The folks there have always been friendly, courteous and helpful. Just wanted to acknowledge them as a great group of people.

Holly

PlayTheAces
November 17, 2003, 07:32 PM
In some thirty years of hitting ranges I can't honestly recall any jerk type experiences. I've seen some less than safe gun handling, rather bizarre shooting techniques, and interesting marksmanship, but can't recall any confrontations. Most folks I've met have been good people.

I remember running into a guy years back at an open range up in the forest who insisted I try his gew98. After shooting it and rattling my teeth, I took a good look at the gun. You could actually shake it and hear most of the parts rattling around. Then he proceeds to tell me how he rolled his own and liked to "beef them up a little". He was a might strange, but a genuinely nice guy. Now that I'm older and wiser I'm a little more cautious about shooting unknown weapons.

45R
November 17, 2003, 07:43 PM
In the last year that I have been shooting I've run into some major Darwin canidates but no jerks.

HogRider
November 17, 2003, 07:44 PM
Same here. Always had good experiences at the shooting range. The only thing I hate, is when people sneak up from behind and try to pick up MY BRASS. Thank God that has only happened once or twice. :D

greyhound
November 17, 2003, 07:56 PM
None here either. I tend to go early on the weekends (Continental Arms in Timonium) and its usually just me and one or two others....kinda like it that way. One gentleman is ALWAYS there, working on drawing from a holster, whether on Saturday or Sunday morning.

Only been going for a year, though, so give it time...

MAKOwner
November 17, 2003, 08:03 PM
Closest I've had is a range warden or whatever (official state ranger of some kind) come driving up asking me and buddy if we realized the range was totally closed on Sundays (unsupervised range). When I said yeah I was aware of that (wondering what the heck he was telling me for) he got a little perturbed I could tell. Kinda like "you knew and are doing it anyway, oh boy ticket time *********". Problem was it was Monday, don't know if this guy was drunk on the weekend and lost a day or what but a little explaining to the ranger that it was not Sunday and he got pretty embarrassed, apologized and left, lol... Said he hadn't even showed up at work yet then, lol. That's gotta suck.

I have only been going to these unsupervised ranges for the last couple years. I never encountered any jerks at other ranges, but I grew tired of "only one shot per second" and "no more than 2 rounds loaded at a time" and such similar BS on the ranges I had been going to.

Never run into any actual jerks at the range or anything. I shoot very little, well zero actually, regular hunter type arms. Mostly evil AKs and other military styled rifles yet I am usually met with people asking about my weapons or at most not showing any distain.

Skunkabilly
November 17, 2003, 08:05 PM
Harley, LOL. People at the rifle range must love me because I pick up my brass and give it to the first person who says they reload -06 :D

ChickenHawk
November 17, 2003, 08:38 PM
I've seen a ton of people who have no idea what they are doing, but that's a far cry from being a 'jerk' .

I've never seen anyone at the range that I would consider to be grossly inconsiderate, dangerous, or a jerk.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

Jack T.
November 17, 2003, 08:47 PM
No range jerks here. . .

But the range I shoot at is a "closed" range. Just me and my wife.

Smokey Joe
November 17, 2003, 08:47 PM
Aside from the very occasional unsafe behavior (usually amenable to pleasant correction) my range time is invariably blissful. I mostly inhabit a public range and am generous with use of my spotting 'scope and with shooting and reloading advice (ALWAYS prefaced with a request for permission to advise!). Have learnt a thing or 2 myself in return, and have had enhanced range time as a result, not to mention lots of free brass.

I do avoid the range the week before Deer Season, as that is when the goofuses come out to see if their gun is still sighted in from last deer season, and fret because they are halfway through a 10-year old box of ammo. Even most of those are pleasant people, even if unpracticed shooters.

My conclusion is that gun handling generally, encourages forethought, practice, and courtesy. And it's apparently a little humbling to be using such godlike amounts of power. :)

Browns Fan
November 17, 2003, 08:49 PM
I have been blessed with some good range experiences, most gun people I know are safe, polite, respectful, and, dare I say it, even humble.

JimJD
November 17, 2003, 08:53 PM
Ooo! Ooo! Me! Me!
*JimJD raises and waves hand frantically*

I've been lucky so far. Hope it stays that way.
:)

ny32182
November 17, 2003, 08:53 PM
I have had a lot of good luck at the range. I believe "gun people" are good people in general.

In fact, I have run into more people at the range who offered to let me shoot their interesting guns than anything close to jerk.


This has been my experience. Never run into any real jerks, and have fired quite a few guns owned by others that I never would have otherwise.

I shot a .45/70 for the first time last week. After reading about some people's experience, I was expecting it to knock my shoulder off, but it wasn't bad at all. Maybe because it was only 300 gr loads. Another guy's 12 guage turkey loads were a different story.

I've got the occasional "what are you going to kill with THAT! :eek:" comments from some guys' wives occasionally with regard to a bushy, but other than that, all good experiences.

cool45auto
November 17, 2003, 08:58 PM
I ran into a guy once that told me I needed to get something bigger than my Beretta, like his .45.:rolleyes:

Other than that I've seen a lot of carelessness but everyone's pretty friendly.

CAP
November 17, 2003, 08:59 PM
The only bad experiences I have had caused my to scream above the niose "DON'T POINT THAT THING AT ME!" :fire: :cuss: :banghead:

BenW
November 17, 2003, 09:11 PM
Ran into know-it-alls on occasion when I used to go to regular ranges, but they were friendly ones. Nowadays I shoot at a Forest Service spot near where I live. I generally go on a weekday morning so I have the place to myself and don't have to worry about jerks. I've never run into the arrogant class of jerk there, but the unsafe behavior on weekends is a sight to behold. Whenever I do run into weekday morning shooters there, they generally end up being people like me, who just want a safe, uncrowded place to shoot, so we get along quite well. :)

As a matter of fact I was there this morning and came home with twice the brass I started with, thanks to the weekend leftovers. :D Don't get me started on the weekend leftovers of TRASH though!:fire:

Mark Tyson
November 17, 2003, 09:27 PM
Fortunately I've never run into a real dangerous or arrogant type of range idiot. Sure I've met a few people who think they're God's gift to gun owners, but they weren't really bad people per se, just a laughably wrong. I met one guy who carried a loaded Mini-30 to the range and pointed it the wrong way. I nonchalantly (and very humbly) advised him that it just might be a good idea to correct those mistakes.

Sisco
November 17, 2003, 09:28 PM
I work odd hours so I usually have the range to myself. Have never run into anyone who put down my skills or choice of guns. (not while I was present anyway! :D )

Beetle Bailey
November 17, 2003, 09:29 PM
I haven't run into any jerks either, only some unsafe gun handling. I've actually had, like some of the other people who've posted, good experiences at the range, but I just never felt the need to start a thread about the guy how taught me how to read the brass disc on my Swedish Mauser, or the guy who built his own flintlock, or the guy who gave my buddy a handful of Enfield stripper clips just because he gave the guy some Enfield advice. Don't get me wrong, I know they (jerks with guns) exist, but it seems to me they are in a small minority. ;)

wardog
November 17, 2003, 09:31 PM
One time I was leisurely shooting my Remington PSS at the local indoor range, and apparently holding up the line for hunters who just wanted to fire 2 shots to make sure they were sighted in. No one said anything but I got sick of all the pacing and muttering, so now I avoid the range just before hunting season. I like to go outside better anyway.

The last time I went to the indoor range, the range master told me I was firing too fast. :rolleyes: I was shooting an S&W 6906 9mm, probably about 1 shot per second. I wasn't spraying bullets around wildly, just firing as soon as I could get a decent sight picture. "Uhh, you can do double taps or triple taps if you want" he said. Oh, so I can fire 2 or 3 as fast as I want, but you have a problem with deliberate aimed fire:fire: And this from a place that rents (or used to) full auto 9mm's:banghead:

Oh, I do like to look at the number of bullet holes in the ceiling right above the shooting lanes and wonder how they happened.

TallPine
November 17, 2003, 10:29 PM
Have only run into one jerk on the public range, and he is a jerk anywhere you meet him. Actually, he is a really nice guy, all sugar and syrup, who will stab you in the back when he gets the chance. :barf:

No, I keep thinking I live in a dream world, because I've never met any of those range jerks that people talk about. Some are more friendly than others, but that's fine too.

BamBam-31
November 17, 2003, 10:50 PM
I'm sure if I think hard enough, I'll remember a jerk here or there. For the most part, however (and I'm talking 99.99% of the time), people at the range are MUCH friendlier than, say, at a bowling alley. No one comes up to me to compliment me on my shoes or balls at a bowling alley, nor I to them.

I find gunnies to be a very friendly bunch, and that makes all the difference in the world. :)

Peace, love, and harmony, y'all! ;) :D

Crimper-D
November 18, 2003, 12:21 AM
Not anyone being outright rude as much as ignorent or just insecure around firearms and loud and brash because of it.

:uhoh: :scrutiny: :rolleyes:

Most can be helped over the mouseturds - with patience:evil:

10-Ring
November 18, 2003, 01:03 AM
I've neveer had a really bad experience at the range...more inconvenience :D Th only time I saw jerks at a range was years ago when I saw guys practicing their drive bys :fire: I've never gone back there!

Kamicosmos
November 18, 2003, 12:23 PM
I've made comments in several of those other threads to this effect. I've been pretty lucky. I've had some unsafe people, but they're usually newbies that respond to correction. No flat out jerks though. Well, sometimes at competitions, but that's to be expected... :)

Dorrin79
November 18, 2003, 12:24 PM
me!

I've seen a lot of people who can't shoot, and a couple of unsafe moments, but never anybody who was being rude or unreasonable.

Maybe I'm just lucky?

Mike Irwin
November 18, 2003, 12:28 PM
"Only negative stuff I ever had happen was at competitions where guys wouldn't tape or the next squad would start doing stage walkthroughs while my squad's guys were at the starting point waiting for them to clear it out and stop picking up brass so we could go hot"


Congratulations, you've encountered range jerks.

Tim McBride
November 18, 2003, 12:57 PM
Only a few times....Last time was at Ben Avery in Phoenix. I was shooting my FAL and someone setup next to me with a hunting rifle. I didn't think much of it until the guy asked me during a cease fire how long I was going to be shoting since he couldn't "Consitrate or Aim" with that 'thing' going off. I told him I still have 200 rds left so he ended up moving benches and giving us dirty looks the rest of the time there.

Mike Irwin
November 18, 2003, 01:23 PM
"I was shooting my FAL and someone setup next to me with a hunting rifle."

I've encountered that kind of jerk a number of times...

I got here a long time AFTER you, I don't even have my stuff unpacked, I could have taken another empty postion on the range, and yet I expect you to move because I don't like what you're shooting...

Right.

Schuey2002
November 18, 2003, 01:41 PM
Me.

My "Range" is sandy patch of land out in the middle of Timbuktu. No humans to be found within miles. Lots 'o 4-legged critters, though..

What's a Range Jerk? :uhoh:

Does a noisy Robin qualify? How 'bout a pesky squirrel? Or a meandering doe? Or even a lumbering porcupine? ;)

Chupacabra
November 18, 2003, 01:47 PM
I've been shootin' for almost two years at a few different ranges in the Seattle area and have not once encountered a range jerk. Everyone I have met has been courteous and polite.

Skunkabilly
November 18, 2003, 01:47 PM
Skunks foraging for CF? ;)

RobW
November 18, 2003, 02:00 PM
It seems that no gun-club can make it without at least one, let's say, "unconventional person".

I always ask politely, if I can set up on the same pistol range occupied by only 1 person if the other ranges are busy (the ranges are wide enough for 4 shooters). I was denied this by "expert shooters" at 2 different clubs.

Another day, I was the only person on the range. A SUV showed up, a guy jumped out, and set up his stuff AHEAD of my firing line!!! No asking, no politeness, no nothing, just plain "Me, Myself, and I".

Signs of the time.

Smoke
November 18, 2003, 02:04 PM
Me.

I only invite people I'm comfortable with out to my own range.

THe few trap/skeet/clays ranges I go to must have a sign that says "No Morons/Gunsels/Jerks" posted somewhere. I've never seen it; but I've never seen any Morons/Gunsels/Jerks there either.

Smoke

Carlos
November 18, 2003, 02:18 PM
Have only run into one jerk on the public range, and he is a jerk anywhere you meet him. Actually, he is a really nice guy, all sugar and syrup, who will stab you in the back when he gets the chance.

Ah, I've met two of these clowns. Otherwise, pretty good luck.

dustind
November 18, 2003, 02:58 PM
Fire arms, none so far.

Piantball I have a few. People who are used to firearms usually make good paintballers. Kids who have lived sheltered lives usually need instruction and some just do not listen.

I love it when people pick up my stuff and start trying to use it when I am standing by it.

Kid: "I was just turning it off" as he releases 3000psi of compressed air to a deafening woosh! Several people set him strait in a stern but polite manner.

Most people are pretty good about saftey and not messing with other peoples stuff though. I have also heard of jerks but most paintballers are pretty good

FPrice
November 18, 2003, 03:15 PM
I don't recall any outright jerks, but I have run into a few people who feel that their need to "socialize" with me outweighs my need to practice my shooting free of interruption. I don't mind doing a little talking, but when it goes on and on and on and on and on....well, you get the picture.

The other thing we sometimes have to deal with at my home range is the old guy who sets up first thing in the morning at the first station at the rifle range and sits there all day making one shot, tinkering with his rifle, checking his shot, taking another shot, tinkering with his rifle, etc. Not really bothering anyone but making it difficult for anyone else to set up or to do anything such as different positions forward of the bench line.

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