2010 DW CBOB pricing...


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SSN Vet
February 8, 2010, 11:39 AM
After scrounging cash from every possible "off the radar screen" location back in December, b4 CZ USA put their new plans into play for the Dan Wesson line, I couldn't find a CBOB to buy. I did find a dealer in FL who sells a lot of DWs, but I was one day to late to get his last one. :(

The "official" story I heard was that starting in Jan. 2010 the were only selling them in CA, but now the dealer in FL just e-mailed me to say he had them in again..... but that the price was now $1,400 (up from $990).

So it appears that they can be had outside of CA after all.

Way over my "working man with three hungry kids" budget... but I suspect they'll still sell.

I'm happy with the 1991 Series Commander I purchased in January for $740, and figure I can make a LOT of improvements for the $660 difference in price.

Oh well. It is what it is.

If I had the $1,400 to drop, I'd send it to Fusion, as that's what Bob quoted me for a custom build to the same spec. as the CBOB.

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Whitman31
February 8, 2010, 02:05 PM
Save for the Fusion...

airbus300
February 8, 2010, 02:21 PM
I am in the same boat. Just when i was getting ready to get one the price jumps $400.
My second choice was the Colt Commander 1991 at around $800 and I may do that.
I may look at Fusion as well. I don't know much about them and was not planning a custom build but who knows.
I found a Valor vbob around $1550 and thought about that for $200 over the Classic I might go that way.
Timing is everything.

Quack
February 8, 2010, 02:28 PM
Bob Serva used to be owner of Dan Wesson before it was sold to CZ.


more info:
While I was working for IBM, I also acquired my own FFL and started doing gunsmithing and opened a small retail store. At this time I started doing more custom work for many individuals and Dan Wesson Firearms of MA. Which eventually lead me to purchase Dan Wesson and Wildey firearms in 1996. That year, with support of my wonderful wife, I left IBM to live my dream and operated Dan Wesson and a machine shop I was involved with. During 1996 until 2005, and with help from many extremely good people, we brought Dan Wesson back to life. As growth with any business goes, you realize that you can only go so far and it's time to pass the reins onto someone else that can hopefully take it to the next step. I have many years now working with individuals throughout the gun industry and have a good understanding of what are the good products and what are not. I have for years waded through the matrix of products being offered to the public and I can tell you that there are many people out there offering excellent products and there are also many that are offering garbage and don't have a clue as to what the customer really needs or desires. That is why Fusion Firearms was formed, to take out the guessing and give customers parts, assemblies and sub-assemblies that will perform properly and reflect the value for which customers are paying out their hard earned money for. Fusion will continue to add customer worthy products that pass our rigid, quality standards and that we feel good about offering to our customers. Where will the trail go from here? One never knows, but one thing for sure, we are going to build some very exclusive firearms, meet many interesting people and have some real good fun."

SSN Vet
February 8, 2010, 02:59 PM
Bob is a really knowledgeable and nice guy to talk to on the phone...

He has been gracious enough to answer all of my dumb questions.

ajoker31
February 8, 2010, 11:42 PM
They shouldn't have any problem selling them. CBOB's are very nice pistols in my opinion. I don't doubt that fusions are also, I just haven't had a chance to play with the fusion yet.

Jerry

bds
February 8, 2010, 11:48 PM
How does STI Trojan compare to the above?

orionengnr
February 8, 2010, 11:50 PM
I looked at a CBOB a year ago for $850. Maybe I should have bought it at that price, but I didn't.

There is no way I will go back and pay $1400 for the same gun next week.

Everyone pees and moans about profiteering on primers and ammo, but a pistol manufacturer can increase it's retail price ~40% and nobody bats an eye?

Press on, brothers. ;) I think I'll either look for a used, reasonably priced CBOB or save up a little longer and buy a Wilson/Baer/Brown. They have not raised their retail prices by 40% recently, and used models are still (relatively speaking) a bargain.

Or I'll keep buying used Kimbers, which have so far served me well...

Full Metal Jacket
February 8, 2010, 11:51 PM
$1,400 is for the stainless VBOB. the finished VBOB lists at over $2,000.

contrary to popular belief, you're not getting an ed brown for less when you buy a DW.

spend a little more and get a real ed brown.

Wes Janson
February 10, 2010, 01:18 AM
This one really ticks me off. I went to go check on Ellet Brothers, and find that dealer pricing suddenly shot up by $400.

*** CZ, ***?

MICHAEL T
February 10, 2010, 02:17 AM
Buy a Colt Commander and have it bobtailed Brownells has the parts or order from Ed Brown I have a CBOB but will be doing a Colt LTW Commander down the road . I like my DW but not 1400 worth.

smartshooter.45
February 10, 2010, 04:16 AM
discontinuing the CBOB is a huge mistake IMO.

contrary to popular belief, you're not getting an ed brown for less when you buy a DW.- generally when i read peoples descriptions of their DW's they arent saying they got an ED BROWN pistol. they talk about the quality of DAN WESSON frames and slides, fit and finish. and they will mention that the pistol has a few Ed Brown parts on it. It is what it is... a Dan Wesson.

lexjj
February 10, 2010, 04:43 AM
Count me in the "CZ priced me out of Dan Wesson" market. I wanted a CBOB bad. I've been saving for 18 months (I have other more important things I am also saving for, so it was slow going). I was going to buy one as a graduation present to myself. Not any more.

I don't fault CZ for wanting to step it up and move into a higher end market. I just think it was a dumb move. In my opinion, DW was successful because the company was a bridge from factory pistols to custom shops. The company fell right smack dab in the middle of the continuum and represented a real value.

Randal45
February 10, 2010, 05:31 AM
Count me in the "CZ priced me out of Dan Wesson" market. I wanted a CBOB bad. I've been saving for 18 months (I have other more important things I am also saving for, so it was slow going). I was going to buy one as a graduation present to myself. Not any more.

I don't fault CZ for wanting to step it up and move into a higher end market. I just think it was a dumb move. In my opinion, DW was successful because the company was a bridge from factory pistols to custom shops. The company fell right smack dab in the middle of the continuum and represented a real value.

I agree and I am in the same boat as you. I've given up on DW and I am going to focus on getting a Fusion Arms 1911. It is a shame at what Dan Wession has done.

SC_1911Shooter
February 10, 2010, 08:39 AM
DW just took the entire reason why they were such a great deal and threw it straight out the window...putting them at a new price point where frankly, they're not the best deal in town for the money anymore. Prior to the price-hike, it was always my opinion that they were THE best deal to be had for $1,100 or less...with STI or Smith and Wesson running 2nd and 3rd respectively...maybe even tied although I just hate S and W's external extractors, but I digress.

Just like a few other's have mentioned...getting a custom (or semi-custom...whatever) Fusion for that money is an absolute NO-BRAINER now. My 2 Fusions are w/o a doubt a notch above the 2 DW's I previously owned (CBOB & PM7).

230therapy
February 10, 2010, 09:05 AM
I'd rather just get a Fusion for only $400 more. It'll come with a trigger job, reliability package and include the features I want.

However, I refuse to spend more than $1000 for a handgun. In the end, it's still just a handgun. If I'm going to spend $2,000, I want a serious rifle.

Kingofthehill
February 10, 2010, 11:13 AM
I have 3 DW's now... the most expensive was 825... one at 800 and at 700... luckly i got those last year used.

No effin' way am i spending $1400 to just barely get INTO the DW class again. They say "We did it to produce a better pistol" "You are getting a forged frame now"...

Well great!... but really? who cares... was there a problem with the previous frame? NOPE.... None at all... all their models jumped 40+%.

I just don't see how it was a "Smart" move.... they were the best deal going for the famous question "Whats the best 1911 for $1000".... now they are being laughed at... OH, and the Quality control has gone down the tubes!... If you even bring that up over at 1911 forum, they close the thread, they can't stand to see anyone not thrilled with their purchase.... sad really.

JOe

SSN Vet
February 10, 2010, 02:38 PM
look for a used, reasonably priced CBOB

Unfortunately, from what I've seen the word is out and the very few used CBOBs I've seen are selling for $900 plus.... more than they likely cost new.

Buy a Colt Commander and have it bobtailed.

That's exactly what I'm doing. I picked up a brandy new 1991 (Series 80) SS Colt Commander and am going to customize it myself... with a minimalist approach..
Ed Brown Beaver Tail and bobbed MSH. Clean up the trigger a little bit (not much required) and I'll be a happy camper.

I promised myself I wouldn't touch it untill I had 500 rounds through it.... half way there :)

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