Those uppers do not include a bolt carrier group ($110-150) or a charging handle ($20), but are a terrific deal even after you add those pieces. The nitride treatment has most if not all of the benefits of hard chrome, without the drawback of reduced accuracy and the potential for chrome to start flaking off at some point. It's also the same coating inside and out, with better corrosion protection than parkerizing (the standard) and a far harder surface that won't scratch easily. Nitride treatment is also used by LWRC, some CMMG models, I believe POF-USA, and apparently on the Shrubmaster ACR (not 100% clear on that).
February 9, 2010, 12:07 PM
Thanks for the comments thus far. I will check those uppers out.
Keep the comments coming! :)
February 9, 2010, 12:23 PM
Run, do not walk, to the DS Arms website and get one of these:
$275 M4 type upper, nitrided barrel:
Man am I glad I looked at this thread, and thanks to Z-Michigan. I, also, have been looking for a good deal on an upper, and was going to get a DPMS upper for my DPMS lower from MidwayUSA, but I've always liked DSA and had no Idea you could buy uppers from them. I think that's what I'm gonna do.
February 9, 2010, 03:34 PM
Also, smokeyandthebandit05, damn nice weapon sir. That thing looks wicked...
February 9, 2010, 04:46 PM
Daniel Defense XV upper for $550. Comes complete with BUIS, handguards, charging handles, and bolt carrier group. This is a top quality upper, and you won't beat it for the price.
that daniel defense xv upper for $550 is a GREAT deal no way you could go wrong there!
February 10, 2010, 02:00 PM
So far, I'm liking the DSArms the best, what with the Nitrite barrel. Midlength and flutted. Too bad they don't give you an option to add the BC and CH to the order from that page.
February 10, 2010, 03:51 PM
February 10, 2010, 08:12 PM
Orion, I would suggest the $140 BCM carrier group and their $44 "gunfighter" charging handle to make a really nice setup. You could also consider the $150 carrier groups from Daniel Defense and Young Mfg, which are in the same top-quality ballpark.
February 11, 2010, 11:50 AM
Hey guys, . . . .thanks for all the answers on here. I'm sure they will help others.
However, I have decided to defer building an AR upper and just use my AK for my main battle rifle, . . . and just spend close to the amount for an upper on AK ammo.
February 11, 2010, 12:49 PM
That works. I'm an AR guy personally, but if you already have a weapon you are familiar with there is no rush in getting another. And it's never wrong to buy more ammo.
February 11, 2010, 12:54 PM
Can't go wrong with ammo, I have a Yugo M-70 full stock and an AMD 65 folder... but I have to say that I am slowly becomming more and more of an AR guy... they are really neat guns...
February 11, 2010, 12:59 PM
BCM and DD for quality
Del-Ton, Stag, and DS for pricepoint.
but with the Del-ton, I'd suggest throwing in the extra $200 for everything else short of the stripped lower. that'll give ya a whole rifle for possibly under $600.
February 11, 2010, 04:33 PM
GP, they ARE great guns [ARs] and I already have a scoped setup on my current AR, thus why I was considering a shorter upper for CQB, . . . but when I figure in the price for it, . . . plus the fact that .223 ammo is usually higher than 7.62X39, it just makes more sense to hold off on the upper and spend the amount on ammo. I DO want to get a nice short AR upper, though, because I like them better, overall.
February 11, 2010, 07:51 PM
hey man i completely understand your point i used to have an AK as my main rifle and i still like the rifle. i just switched over to an AR mainly because of the 5.56 chamber (nato) secondly availability of parts. now my reasons are strictly based on a shtf scenario
i know you can fix an ak if something breaks right now. one could also argue that AK's don't break no need to worry about it.
February 12, 2010, 12:18 AM
Tagged for later.
February 12, 2010, 12:36 AM
haha- i just traded an AK for .223 ammo
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