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stangfan93
February 9, 2010, 12:33 AM
Anyone ever have a round blow up in the chamber of their guns?

I borrowed a friends Glock to test out and see if I wanted to purchase a similar model. And on the last round in the magazine blew up! Scared the you know what out of me. I remember seeing a huge flash and felt the concussion in my hands and face. I'm alright. Nothing happened to me except for some extra gun powder on my hands.

The force shot the magazine out of the gun and the case stuck in the chamber.

My conclusion is the Glock 27 stood up and the recoil is stout for normal shooting and may purchase one as a carry weapon.

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mptrimshop
February 9, 2010, 12:34 AM
huh?...the gun was unharmed?

stangfan93
February 9, 2010, 12:38 AM
Yep. All was fine. I wouldve shot more to make sure but I didn't want to try anymore that day. Called my friend and told him to have it checked out by someone to make sure all is fine. But visually the gun is ok. Here is a pic of the stuck case.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/Stangfan93/36a31873.jpg

mptrimshop
February 9, 2010, 02:02 AM
looks like it didn't chamber all the way....huh

hoghunting
February 9, 2010, 02:38 AM
Looks like case head separation. Were you using factory ammo or reloads?

possum
February 9, 2010, 02:44 AM
well i am glad that you are alright, and that the gun wasn't damaged. yes i as well am interested to hear if this was factory ammo, etc, that does look like seperation happened. i think it might have been an overcharged round.

W.E.G.
February 9, 2010, 03:20 AM
What kind of ammo were you using?

stangfan93
February 9, 2010, 10:09 AM
They were reloads. The people whom I got the reloads from has a really good reputation for their ammo but I guess this was one that was reloaded one to many times.

HoosierQ
February 9, 2010, 10:18 AM
Wow. Another Glock .40 blows up. I know not to trust the Internet for "truth" and all that but holy smokes...there sure is a lot of anectodal information regarding the .40 Glocks. Scary. I'll stick with my Gen2 G17 thanks.

Quiet
February 9, 2010, 10:20 AM
I've never had a gun kaboom, but a few years ago when I qualifying, another recruit on the range had his SIG P239 kaboom.
It blew out through the mag well. Destroyed the magazine and blew out a grip panel. He had a bruise on his hand, no other injuries.
Apparently, he was using reloads that his friend of a friend had given him and the LE range staff gave us a lecture on only using factory ammo.

stangfan93
February 9, 2010, 03:20 PM
I would've bought factory ammo but my buddy gave me a box of reloads to use. Still have 10 rounds because after the case was removed and after that I wasn't about to shoot anymore. Plus the target hanger fell on me. I packed up and went home.

KBintheSLC
February 9, 2010, 03:42 PM
Looks like another reason not to trust other people's reloads. The only reloads I trust are the ones I do myself. Reputable or not, you have no way of knowing the quality of someone's reloads. The brass might be old and it might not have been annealed properly to begin with, it may be overcharged, the bullets might be seated too deeply, etc...

Contrary to some other comments regarding the quality of the gun, I think this is a testament to the durability of the Glock... that it survived this abusive ammo. I'm glad that you and your gun are ok.

ljnowell
February 9, 2010, 03:54 PM
They were reloads. The people whom I got the reloads from has a really good reputation for their ammo but I guess this was one that was reloaded one to many times.

Were they lead? With the complete case head like that, It almost looks like it was well out of battery. Either way, I will guess ammo, not gun.

stangfan93
February 9, 2010, 04:00 PM
They were copper FMJ's.

devildog32713
February 9, 2010, 04:04 PM
hmmm, well, don't be mad at the Glock, reload yourself, or factory.

stangfan93
February 9, 2010, 04:14 PM
Not mad at the gun. In fact I am very impressed that the gun held up.

moxie
February 9, 2010, 04:18 PM
Stangfan93,

Recommend strongly you do not try to fire those remaining rounds. Return them to your buddy and let him try to figure out what went wrong.

Ragnar Danneskjold
February 9, 2010, 05:19 PM
Hoosier, I know it's all anecdotal, but I too would like to see a comparison of how man .40SW Glock kaboom vs 9mm. It seems to happen to the .40s WAY more often.

stangfan93
February 9, 2010, 05:23 PM
Moxie,
I don't plan on shooting the last remaining ammo. Thanks for the advice and concern.

Nick5182
February 9, 2010, 05:32 PM
I own a Glock 22, and never had anything even close to that happen. I'm a very cautious person and I have a friend that reloads and I give my once-used brass to him to reload for me, and that's the only time I shoot reloads. I trust him in his reloading, and I have never had any problems with reloads he does for me. I also will not give him the brass if it's been reloaded 3 times. Like I said, I'm cautious and that's just me.

atblis
February 9, 2010, 06:11 PM
Interesting. How old is this Glock?

stangfan93
February 9, 2010, 06:27 PM
Not sure of the age as it's my friends but I do know it's over 7 years old because that's how long I have known him.

SeanMTX
February 9, 2010, 06:53 PM
Ragnar, Hoosier etc...

How is it out of this story you got that .40 Glocks are less reliable than other firearms of the same caliber??

This is an ammunition problem, not a firearm or operator problem.

atblis
February 9, 2010, 07:26 PM
It does look like a straight up brass failure. I was wondering about the feed ramp. They supposedly improved case support on the newer Glocks. That Kb doesn't look anywhere near as bad as the ones plastered all over the net.

W.E.G.
February 9, 2010, 07:39 PM
I would've bought factory ammo but my buddy gave me a box of reloads to use.

Your buddy aint too sharp is he?

He loans the gun that has THE MOST NOTORIOUS hands-down reputation for blow-ups when reloads are used, and he furnishes reloads for you to use in it?
Jumpin' Jimminy on a pogo stick!!!

Lord only knows what kind of crappy ammo your buddy had gunked-up the bore with before he handed it over to you for the big kaboom.

You need to watch that guy.

Ragnar Danneskjold
February 9, 2010, 08:18 PM
Ragnar, Hoosier etc...

How is it out of this story you got that .40 Glocks are less reliable than other firearms of the same caliber??

This is an ammunition problem, not a firearm or operator problem.

Well if you re-read the posts you can see that we did indeed admit that it's all anecdotal. But I don't just see it from this post. There are a disproportionate amount of kabooms from .40SW Glocks, as opposed to Glocks of other calibers or other semi-autos. Maybe it happens a lot, but it just isn't reported or talked about as much as on Glocks. It's not hard science, but if there was another thread titled "Kaboom", I would bet real money on it being about abother .40 caliber Glock.

Jim K
February 9, 2010, 08:28 PM
When I hear of a .40 caliber letting go, I always wonder if there were any 9mm rounds in the vicinity. A possible scenario is:

Load a magazine of .40 rounds. Accidentally load a 9mm as the top round. Cycle the slide, keeping the gun pointed down range as per safety rules.

The 9mm goes into the chamber and into the barrel. The gun goes click. The shooter, thinking the slide didn't pick up the first round, cycles the slide, still keeping the gun pointing down range, and puts a .40 into the chamber.

The result is a partial obstruction in the barrel; not enough to stop the .40 bullet and bulge the barrel, but enough to raise pressures.

Just a thought.

Jim

D!rty H@rry
February 10, 2010, 04:48 PM
surely if a glock was going to KB for no reason it would have given what happened.


:)

DERGLOCKINMEISTER
February 10, 2010, 05:18 PM
Don't let facts get in the way of a good story . This had nothing to do with the firearm , it was the ammo . I know that a few anti Glock people will jump on this as a chance to down the handgun , but true facts are true facts. Get a life , get a clue and most of all ,get a Glock !!!

jon_in_wv
February 10, 2010, 05:39 PM
I'm not a fan of the 40 GLocks but in fairness this case looks like PURELY a case of bad ammo. The round split on the side where the Glock's chamber is fully supported not on the bottom where the feed ramp is. In this case the Glock held up and contained the blast and worked just like it should have. While I think the design of the Glock chamber does make it more susceptible to problems because it does not have a fully supported chamber it doesn't look like it caused the problem in this case. I still would not buy a 40 Glock DerGlockinmeister, but I will have to get a 9mm Glock one day.

MCgunner
February 10, 2010, 06:24 PM
They were reloads. The people whom I got the reloads from has a really good reputation for their ammo but I guess this was one that was reloaded one to many times.

If I'D bought that ammo, those people would not enjoy a good reputation any longer. I'd see to it.

D!rty H@rry
February 11, 2010, 08:44 AM
It's not hard science, but if there was another thread titled "Kaboom", I would bet real money on it being about abother .40 caliber Glock.

and i would bet real money it was the ammo just like here. i have never. repeat NEVER seen a glock KB without it being reloads. i have seen may other guns KB for the same reason.


more glock .40's in the RW soooo...
more glock .40 KB's.

make sence?

Texas Gun Person
February 11, 2010, 08:59 AM
I'm surprised that after that happening you are still considering purchasing one. Most people would set it down, and curse the name Glock from then on. Good for you. :)

kludge
February 11, 2010, 10:26 AM
Were they lead? With the complete case head like that, It almost looks like it was well out of battery. Either way, I will guess ammo, not gun.

If it was out of battery, why did it fire? :stir pot:

jon_in_wv
February 11, 2010, 08:34 PM
You KNOW the answer to that smarty pants. ha ha.

harmon rabb
February 11, 2010, 09:00 PM
screwed up reload.

Zerodefect
February 11, 2010, 09:39 PM
Yup, thats a bad reload. I don't buy reloads. I make my own, otherwise its factory. You can't trust others reloading. One of my rules is I only shoot my reloads and you shoot yours. Keeps ya honest about loading.

And .40 in most of todays modern pistols is a bad round to have a weak case for. I may only reuse my cases once or twice.

ljnowell
February 11, 2010, 09:46 PM
If it was out of battery, why did it fire? :stir pot:

That could be caused by any number of issues. If it were an early glock, that in itself would explain it. If its a later one, its either broken, or there is another failure, possibly related to being dirty, or any number of issues.

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