VZ 61 Skorpion .32 acp - PREPOSTEROUS?


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Mr. Whimsy
February 9, 2010, 06:46 PM
Or is it the best home defense firearm of all time?

Seriously, I'm just curious if anyone owns this firearm and can't figure why it is imported. Am I missing something? Is their a rabid following for the .32 acp submachinegun-wannabe I don't know about?

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GRIZ22
February 9, 2010, 06:52 PM
While there is some rational for the auto version of the Skorpion, the semi version seems to fill a niche for the smg wannabes.

The Lone Haranguer
February 9, 2010, 08:15 PM
It is a novelty, but I've bought guns because of unusual design before.

6x6pinz
February 10, 2010, 07:10 PM
I guess if you are from a European country and wanted a sidearm similar to what the police agency used to carry, there it is. Even when they start making them in 380 I see no use for them. The old interarms 22lr version did not do very well either, but I would assume the manufacturers/importers must feel there is a market.

The FA version is a blast to shoot as long as someone else is paying for the firearm and ammo, especially with a silencer and folding wire stock:)

w_houle
February 10, 2010, 07:19 PM
For HD:
There's better guns for aimed fire and for point shooting, there's noting that VZ can say that one round of 00 Buck can't say better.
For CCW:
ROFL!

gbelleh
February 10, 2010, 07:33 PM
I've always liked the VZ61, and I would consider getting one (I've got stranger and more useless guns already). But the lack of a folding stock makes me like it less, not to mention the price.

makarovnik
February 10, 2010, 09:35 PM
Effective

Gelgoog
February 11, 2010, 12:45 AM
I am going to get one just for the hell of it. With a stock its actually a very handly little carbine. For SD it obviously leaves alot to be desired.

On paper it makes almost no sense, but once you have one in your hands and fire the thing, I think you will turn around.

tkopp
February 11, 2010, 12:55 AM
If you wanted to invest the $200, does anyone sell the stock?

armoredman
February 11, 2010, 01:53 AM
Yes, Czechpoint USA carries all kinds of accessories for the vz-61. They also have the guns, both vz-61 and vz-58. :)
http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/

THE DARK KNIGHT
February 11, 2010, 02:26 AM
It's a range toy. Looks cool, lots of fun. Good match if you're into eastern bloc guns. Ammo is cheap too. Not every gun needs to have your life bet on it in the battle vs. home invaders.

Full Metal Jacket
February 11, 2010, 07:32 AM
novelty toy. otherwise pointless.

Cromlech
February 11, 2010, 08:53 AM
I've never fired such a thing, so this is just me blathering, but personally I don't think I would find it to be all that fun unless it was a real full-auto one.

RJM
February 11, 2010, 09:01 AM
Apparently, bump firing it is fun. My local shop had one and I played with it for a while. It seems well made. I wouldn't buy it for anything but a fun range gun or shooting at a bunch of watermelons, and for that I could see it being fun, but for home defense...ah, probably not.

Nothing wrong with a fun gun though, I have several that I wouldn't part with.

Mr. Whimsy
February 11, 2010, 09:40 AM
I'm actually a little surprised they don't offer it in .380 ACP.

w_houle
February 11, 2010, 11:09 AM
I am going to get one just for the hell of it.
Ah... the best reason there is to buy one :)
I'm actually a little surprised they don't offer it in .380 ACP.
or 9x18 for that matter

armoredman
February 12, 2010, 09:28 PM
Surprise - it will be coming in in 380 sometime in the near future, according to what a little birdie told me. The 9mmMak has been suggested.
Fun toys.

Grayrider
February 13, 2010, 12:19 PM
9x18 would be a good choice. .380 is pretty expensive for plinking. An SBR in 9x18 would be very interesting....

:D

John

armoredman
February 13, 2010, 01:17 PM
Czechpoint does offer them in an SBR configuration, if you want to fork the cash for all the paperwork.

techmike
February 13, 2010, 01:42 PM
It's a range toy. I don't see much practical use for one. If I got a screaming good deal on one I'd buy it and SBR it just for giggles.

Onmilo
February 14, 2010, 03:25 AM
They are much better as a submachinegun than they are as a semiautomatic pistol imho

hso
February 20, 2010, 12:37 AM
Just because you can't figure out why anyone would want one doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to figure out why it should be imported.

It's pretty simple.

Can't own the smg, want the smg, get the next "best" thing that resembles the smg.

HorseSoldier
February 20, 2010, 01:27 AM
I always felt like I should be wearing a mink fur fedora and carrying a pimp stick the times I got to play with a real one, for some reason . . .

Gelgoog
February 20, 2010, 06:44 PM
I'm actually a little surprised they don't offer it in .380 ACP.
or 9x18 for that matter

Actually The russians made them in .380, 9x18 and 9x19...we just don't have any of the imported.

Some company called Leinad made a crud 9x19 skorpion that uses a proprietary mag. There are two of them on gunbroker right now.


Now the stock is weird because the FA examples have a slot cut on the back of them in which you can just slid the stock right into, but the semi-auto ones do not. So I am not sure how you would affix the stock. Would a metal apoxy like JB-weld be strong enough? I doubt there is enough room in the rear of the action to drill and screw it on.

Bohemus
February 20, 2010, 07:00 PM
Actually The Czechs made them in .380, 9x18 and 9x19...we just don't have any of the imported.

Fixed for you..

Actualy I can imagine it as home defence gun in case your gf/kids cannnot handle 12/76 shotgun. Ive shot Scarabeus 06 (semi-auto škorpion) and seen few kids/girls shooting it - you can throw a lot of bullets in direction you point in no time and if you hit something, 7,65mm B. will do its part.

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