Thicker Grips for the EMP!


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Fullolead
February 11, 2010, 06:39 PM
Anybody tried changing out the "slimline" grip bushings and screws that come on the EMP, and replacing them with standard 1911 bushings and screws to see if a Compact (Officer) size set of grips would fit it? I'd like to try and get a little more retention (more to hold on to). It might open up a lot more options from various Grip Manufacturers. Thoughts?

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9mmepiphany
February 11, 2010, 08:53 PM
the point of the EMP is as an Enhanced Micro Pistol. adding thicker bushings, screws and grips would seem counter to it's mission...like adding an enlarged mag well.

i'm thinking of way to make it thinner and lighter...like going to a single sided thumb safety, cutting down the beavertail and magazine base pads

Fullolead
February 12, 2010, 12:41 AM
Well... I have arthritis and need a little more to hold onto. Plus the EMP frame is already thinner than the standard 1911. Why not have options.

JDGray
February 12, 2010, 05:14 AM
You don't need to change the bushings, just need a set of standard screws. As far as officers grips fitting? Ya got me there! Good luck, nothing wrong with making it fit you better;)

Orion8472
February 12, 2010, 09:41 AM
I would definitely research this first. I don't believe regular [non-EMP size] grips will work on the EMP. I purchased one of the finger grove inserts that go under the wood grips, . . . made for 1911's, . . . and I had to do some cutting to make it fit the wood grips AND screw holes on my EMP. Because of this, I can say, with a fair amount of assurance, that 1911 grips will not work on the EMP.

9mmepiphany
February 12, 2010, 01:19 PM
the butt frame of the EMP is shorter than the Officers ACP from the front to the back

J Lambs
February 12, 2010, 01:29 PM
I had this pair from Larry Davidson. They were thicker than the factory grips and fit the gun perfectly, but I sold them because I liked the feel of the thin grips

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii143/jlambs/200804121648.jpg

Lonestar49
February 12, 2010, 02:18 PM
...

Like J Lamps grips (thicker acc him) you could, in the interim, maybe, try a small Hogue, rubber, slip-on sleeve (with palm swell) but, keep in mind, it would, most likely, cover and compress the grip safety.

Keeping in mind that the thumb slide safety is still active/works, in regards to carrying safely.

This may or may not work, but it could be a temp "improvement" for you hands with arthritis, until you find other grips that work for ya.

Again, it would, most likely depress the grip safety (at all times), but as long as you have control/thought, over your trigger finger, and the thumb slide safety, you should be all right..

Luck,


Ls

TT
February 12, 2010, 11:15 PM
I have Mil Tac G10s on my EMP, they measure 1.260 across the middle of the grips. Im too lazy to put the original grips back on and measure them, so someone else will have to measure theirs and report. :-)

Link to grips:
http://store.mil-tac.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=17

davezander
February 13, 2010, 12:07 AM
I put Hogue wrap around finger groove grips on my EMP40. Had to do a little trimming around the Mag release and the safty,nothing major though. They were for the Colt officers model I belive.

Fullolead
February 13, 2010, 10:56 AM
So far I've looked at VZ Grips, Larry Davidson's, Mil-Tac's and some custom grips from Esmeralda. Esmeralda says her "Slender Compact" (Officer) Series grips fit the EMP, which lead me to believe that standard Compact (officer) grips would work. Doesn't sound like this is the case.
Thanks for the Intel guys.

Fullolead
February 13, 2010, 10:58 AM
I have Mil Tac G10s on my EMP, they measure 1.260 across the middle of the grips. Im too lazy to put the original grips back on and measure them, so someone else will have to measure theirs and report. :-)

Link to grips:
http://store.mil-tac.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=17
Hey TT. Which Mil-Tac's did you buy and how do you like them?

Walkalong
February 13, 2010, 11:15 AM
EMP original grip width is a few thousandths (5 or less) over 1.1, depended where you measure.

I see no problem using thicker grips on the EMP. The frickin' wings they chose for a safety on this "thin" gun stick out around 1.420.

TT
February 13, 2010, 04:13 PM
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/TThorson/EMP001mod.jpg
Mil Tac grips.

Walkalong: The frickin' wings they chose for a safety on this "thin" gun stick out around 1.420.

Boy, no kidding- the original thumb safety is definitely wide.

Fullolead
February 14, 2010, 01:34 PM
Yeah! What about that? Anybody making a thinner Ambi thumb safety for this gun?

Full Metal Jacket
February 14, 2010, 02:30 PM
check out vz grips. i'm gonna get some aliens for my emp40. they are thin though, not what the OP is looking for. they're good for me as i have small hands. :)

Quack
February 14, 2010, 03:35 PM
any ambi safety will work. i use an Ed Brown single on mine.
Larry Davidson Horned Lizard grips
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_0458.jpg


Mil-tacs are made by Larry Davidson, so i'd go directly to the source.

Mil-Tac Knives & Tools has partnered with world renowned knife designer and maker Larry Davidson.

The Mil-Tac 1911 grips were designed to withstand the harsh environments encountered by our military and law enforcement units. The 1911 pistol is a true classic and has withstood the test of time and is still one of the preferred handguns of choice for elite military and law enforcement units. However, wooden grips for the 1911 pistol are a major problem for harsh environments since they will crack, warp, and harbor moisture and therefore produce rust. This adds additional maintenance to the 1911 pistol.


Working towards the goal of producing a maintenance free and virtually indestructible 1911 grip, Mil-Tac partnered with Larry Davidson of Davidson Custom Knives of Texas.
Larry Davidson is world renowned for his custom knives and 1911 MonkeyGrips and their high quality, 3D design, and ergonomic characteristics are second to none. The Mil-Tac 1911 grips are based on Larry Davidson’s design and are CNC machined from G10 laminate which is the best choice for rugged tactical pistols that require an extreme duty grip. Impervious to solvents, heat, sweat, salt water or moisture, these grips offer non-degrading dimensional stability under all conditions and will not crack or chip especially around the grip screw holes. The Mil-Tac 1911 grip has an aggressive checkering pattern which prevents slippage even under the most adverse conditions when the hands are wet or sweaty and the hand filling profile provides an almost vise like gripping surface. The Mil-Tac 1911 grips are extremely functional and great looking and repositions the shooter's right hand for improved finger positioning on the trigger. In addition, these grips feature a thumb ramp for the magazine release to allow you to quickly find the magazine release position in the dark or under adverse and stressful conditions.


Craig Sword
Mil-Tac Knives & Tools
P.O. Box 642
Wylie, TX 75098 USA

Craig.Sword@mil-tac.com

877-MIL-TAC6


All the grips pictured and referenced in this thread were made by Matt and I. The mag release thumb groove is an option. I make em any way you want em. Mil-Tac is one of our accounts and handles OEM distribution to Springfield Armory, Wilson Combat, Novak, Nighthawk. You can buy em from Mil-Tac or directly from Matt or I.
Hope that clears things a bit....thanks....larryd

9mmepiphany
February 14, 2010, 05:17 PM
i'm leaning toward the Brown single too, i just picked up my EMP from my FFL last night and the first thing is noticed was that those thumb safeties are sharp. it couldn't be any fun to shoot like that.

so far i'm looking at replacing the thumb safety, the trigger and the grips...maybe adding a flush base mag, i don't need the extra length to get all my fingers on the grip

Quack
February 14, 2010, 05:28 PM
for reference

Stock safety
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/DSC_7939.jpg

Ed Brown
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_0458.jpg

TT
February 14, 2010, 08:59 PM
9mmepiphany: ...maybe adding a flush base mag...

I'd be interested in a flush mag for my EMP- who makes them?

ichiban
February 14, 2010, 09:11 PM
Getting the front strap checkered would probably aid your grip considerably. It's on my "to do" list. I also went with some Davidson grips and and EB single safety.

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx191/saharrold/DSCN0178.jpg

Quack
February 14, 2010, 10:04 PM
you can get your mags modified by "log man" on 1911forum for $20


http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm81/98s-281/EMPMag.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/greenst/EMP10.jpg

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/logpics/20081210_3-1.jpg

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/logpics/20081210_5-1.jpg

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/logpics/436300705-1.jpg

TT
February 14, 2010, 11:00 PM
Nice! Thanks for the info.

Quack
February 14, 2010, 11:08 PM
"log man" is in Riverside County, California.

http://forums.1911forum.com/member.php?u=45265

you also lose 1rd when you get your mags flush cut.

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