CCW piece for $300.00


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Bowdenknxvll
February 12, 2010, 12:33 AM
I have gotten into budget guns lately and was wondering what gun I would carry if I only had $300.00 to spend. After alot of research and alot of buying and selling I have come to the conclusion that you don't always get what you pay for. There are many "budget" guns that are very reliable and for the most part accurate for a service gun. If you only had $300.00 to protect your life, day in and day out, what would you buy?

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vtbluegrass
February 12, 2010, 12:40 AM
It would be a Kel-Tec. Mostly likely PF-9.

Legionnaire
February 12, 2010, 12:45 AM
I'd look for a second-hand Ruger SP101.

LeontheProfessional
February 12, 2010, 12:46 AM
Kel-tec PF9

billdeserthills
February 12, 2010, 12:47 AM
OOOhhh pick the cheap, crappy Jimenez! That way you can have one in each pocket!:what:

hso
February 12, 2010, 12:56 AM
I'd first look for an FM Hi Power, then the KelTec P11. Spare mags are inexpensive. Both feed 9mm.
I have both these guns and have put hundreds of rounds through them without a problem so I know they work.

If there were a couple of years of history built up I would add the PF9 to the list.

wlewisiii
February 12, 2010, 12:58 AM
Used Smith & Wesson Model 15.

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/smith-wesson/revolver/p/smith-wesson-model-15%2C-38spl-4in%2C-dao-good-to-very-good-condition/cPath/16_211_431/products_id/4124

Leaves a bit of money left over for 158gr. LSWCHP +P ammuntion.

William

BullfrogKen
February 12, 2010, 01:04 AM
Considering you'd need to buy a good holster and some ammunition to prove it, on a $300.00 budget I'd go searching for a used revolver.

frisbee2421
February 12, 2010, 01:13 AM
bulgarian makarov. good accuracy and reliability. sights are less than ideal, but in most self defense incidents you will most likely be point shooting. aim surplus has them for 269.00. 9x18 is cost effective for practice. very easy to conceal.

RS14
February 12, 2010, 03:04 AM
I've heard good things about the Arcus 94/98 (Hi Power clones), though it doesn't get discussed here very often. They seem to be selling for about $300 lately. It's a bit large for concealing, though.

Girodin
February 12, 2010, 03:28 AM
but in most self defense incidents you will most likely be point shooting.

Perhaps if you don't train to acquire the sights when you draw and fire. If on the other hand you train to do so and draw and acquire the sights thousands of times it is very likely you will do just that should you ever have the need.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
February 12, 2010, 03:29 AM
In new guns, it's HARD if not impossible to beat a Bersa Thunder 9 or Thunder compact 9 for sub-$300 (though it may cost you $325+ all said and done, with tax and/or FFL xfer & shipping), or a KelTec P11, I suppose, also. May not hold up to thousands of rounds, but will work well for awhile.

In used guns, you can sometimes find some quality pieces for sub-$300: Makarovs, PA-63, Arcus 94, FEGs, Star Firestars, .38 snub revolvers from Smith, Colt, Ruger, Taurus, etc.

Oro
February 12, 2010, 03:31 AM
Best deal in that range in my mind is finding a used S&W 469 - $275 to $325 is a typical used price range. Good value for a small, concealable, high-cap pistol of excellent quality.

ArchAngelCD
February 12, 2010, 03:39 AM
IMO if you want a semi-auto buy the Kel-Tec PF-9.
If you want a revolver buy a used S&W J frame or even a snub nose K frame.
A short barrel Ruger Six-Series revolver would do quite well too.

All are within your $300 budget.

oasis618
February 12, 2010, 04:10 AM
Kel-Tec PF-9 all day.

biohazurd
February 12, 2010, 06:09 AM
Ruger P95, Kel tec P11/PF9, Bersa .380 ect ect...

The Sarge
February 12, 2010, 07:22 AM
Ruger P95 brand new delivered from Buds Gun Shop $300
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_49_75/products_id/18161

sharpshooter1212
February 12, 2010, 07:33 AM
street price for a smith and wesson 669 is around 300-350 in good condition. good capacity, accurate, lightweight, and concealed carry friendly. might also look into the newest ruger .380 i held one the other day, and it was like holding a small framed .22. they go for 250-300. dont get in a hurry if you want a "good" cheap gun. eventually you will run into someone who needs to sell one fast to make a little extra cash. if you need one right away and want the advantage of a warranty i would go with a new ruger. good luck.

Old Shooter
February 12, 2010, 08:02 AM
I recently bought a used Kel-Tec P11 for $275 and it has been 100% for me with 200 rounds fired with no problems. Nice handly little gun I have no problem carrying concealed. That being said, the Ruger for $300 is hard to beat.

Quoheleth
February 12, 2010, 08:02 AM
CZ 82 or 83
Smith & Wesson Sigma
S&W model 10 or 15 or the stainless equivelant

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halfded
February 12, 2010, 08:04 AM
How about the Taurus M85?

grafikchaos
February 12, 2010, 08:07 AM
Since Makarovs were mentioned, I'd suggest a very good condition CZ vz82. Picking mine up today for just under $220. That leaves me room for some more ammo, a decent holster, and such. If you're not adverse to using the less powerful 9x18 cartridge, it will be a good weapon for CCW. If you're looking for new, then all the suggestions above will do you well. The one I'd probably be just a touch wary about is the Kel-Tec PF-9. Don't get me wrong, it's a great little gun, but the single stack grip is very thin, and it can really punish your hand. Buy it if you're going to practice every once in a while, but don't if you plan on using it a lot on the range. Happy hunting!

rocinante
February 12, 2010, 08:38 AM
that is what i paid for my taurus pt145 two years ago, they are slightly more now. 10+1 of 45 acp

ultradoc
February 12, 2010, 08:41 AM
Bersa Thunder 380

Maj.Striker
February 12, 2010, 09:04 AM
1. Arcus 94/98 DA or DAC. Well executed design based primarily off of the Browning High Power. Worth the $300 brand new

2. Bersa Thunder Ultra Compact or Full Size. Has features you can't find in most handguns twice its size. Its reliable and reasonably accurate. $300 brand new.

Those are the two I would recommend as brand new models...if you're asking for used then the list could go on for quite some time...

woad_yurt
February 12, 2010, 09:13 AM
How about a Feg PA-63? One has to add $20 extra for some realistic springs but, it's still way within your range. I have one and it's a great pistol. 9X18's more powerful and less money than .380. Plus, it's available.

dp509
February 12, 2010, 09:20 AM
How about a S & W Sigma 9mm.

Seriously, they have got the kinks out of them.

Plus, you get tow free mags for a total of 4 :eek:

Academy Sports has them for $299 plus tax in my neck of the woods.
(Alabama)

9mm, holds a lot of rounds, fairly accurate, reliable.......

Check your local want ads, trade papers etc........

jad0110
February 12, 2010, 09:25 AM
I have gotten into budget guns lately and was wondering what gun I would carry if I only had $300.00 to spend

To clarify, is that $300 for the gun, ammo and holster/belt? Or just the gun.

I ask because there are both lightweight and heavier guns available for less than $300, but the heavier steel guns require a significant outlay for a good stiff gunbelt and holster.

I paid $275 for my 4" Ruger Police Service Six in .357 Magnum. 100% reliable, accurate, durable and a very natural pointer in my hand. Because of it's weight, I carry using a $79 belt and a $70 holster though. It conceals very easily and comfortably as a result.

19-3Ben
February 12, 2010, 09:34 AM
CZ82. No question in my mind.
$220 from AIMsurplus with an extra mag. That leaves you $80 for holster and ammo.

Sebastian the Ibis
February 12, 2010, 09:40 AM
I was thinking about picking up a polish p-64 from Aimsurplus for $169.00, for situations when my g19 is just a little big. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1P64

However, I have heard that the DA trigger is extremely stiff, even for a BUG I'd probably be pocket carrying.

Unfortunately, Aim is sold out of the cz82s

MCgunner
February 12, 2010, 09:45 AM
Kel Tec P11, Makarov, Bersa, Rossi, some I can think of. There are some guns from Taurus like the new PT738 and the PT709. The Taurus revolvers are well out of that price point, but a used one is well under. I have a few that work very well for me. The Ruger LCP comes to mind. Ruger is known for high quality and low price, though the 300 dollar price point only applies to the LCP anymore.

mgmorden
February 12, 2010, 12:02 PM
CZ82. No question in my mind.
$220 from AIMsurplus with an extra mag. That leaves you $80 for holster and ammo.

That CZ-82 actually comes with a leather flap holster. In a very lenient interpretation of concealed you might get that counted as concealed (you technically can't see the gun when the flap is closed :)).

That said, to me the CZ-82 is a good gun, but a bit heavy for it's size. Better to look at one of the smaller pocket .380's IMHO. Similar power to the 9mm Mak, smaller gun, and MUCH lighter. The Kel Tec P-3AT and Ruger LCP both fit within the $300 budget. Taurus TCP and Kahr P380 are similar in class but cost a bit more. S&W is supposed to be coming out with their "BodyGuard" .380 concealed gun too. Jury is still out though on whether it'll be priced more like a Sigma or like an M&P though :).

navyretired 1
February 12, 2010, 01:44 PM
I haven't had any experience with the Kel-Tec PF9 yet but it looks good. What I do have is 5 years CCW with a Kel-Tec P11. I have 2 and both have be absolutely dependable. Easy to carry fairly powerful and easy to clean, no issue at the range, both have never failed to fire or any other malfuction. I use 5906 Smith mags for 3 more rounds with no increase in telegraphing through clothes.
One of mine I did a carry package on, got rid of sights and filled with blanks, smoothed all corners milled guttersnipe groove in slide and Kel-Tec's belt clip.
It sets securely and comfortably in midrift even in shorts and t-shirt and doesn't telegraph through clothes.
I firmly beleave in practicing and training with the gun you carry and only carry the one you have total confidence in. Mindset, training and muscle memory will keep you alive.
And only $300 or less.

MachIVshooter
February 12, 2010, 02:09 PM
Well, I paid $270 for my S&W CS-45. But that was a once in a lifetime type deal. On a $300 budget, I'd buy the KT PF-9. again. and again. The best $300 new pistol I've ever had.

Onward Allusion
February 12, 2010, 02:44 PM
If size and weight are important, I would say P32, P3AT, PF9, or P11. All can be had for under $300, even retail. I've had personal experience with the P32 & P3AT and both are 100% reliable with FMJ.

If you can make do with more weight, I would recommend a CZ-82 (9x18) for ~ $200 + shipping & FFL (250 total?). It is a whole lotta gun for the money. Solid steel, higher capacity, & a decent cartridge with knock down. It can also be used as a last ditch clubbing instrument.



Bowdenknxvll (http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=107645)
CCW piece for $300.00
I have gotten into budget guns lately and was wondering what gun I would carry if I only had $300.00 to spend. After alot of research and alot of buying and selling I have come to the conclusion that you don't always get what you pay for. There are many "budget" guns that are very reliable and for the most part accurate for a service gun. If you only had $300.00 to protect your life, day in and day out, what would you buy?

Nico Testosteros
February 12, 2010, 02:51 PM
I'll carry my KelTec P11 once I finally get around to getting my license.
My buddy has a PF9 and I like the trigger pull on that better.

KBintheSLC
February 12, 2010, 04:06 PM
It would be a Kel-Tec. Mostly likely PF-9.

Excellent first post... and welcome to THR.

Ditto. The PF9 was the first thing that came to mind.

harmon rabb
February 12, 2010, 04:24 PM
If you can make do with more weight, I would recommend a CZ-82 (9x18) for ~ $200 + shipping & FFL (250 total?). It is a whole lotta gun for the money. Solid steel, higher capacity, & a decent cartridge with knock down. It can also be used as a last ditch clubbing instrument.

lol. very true.

Tom Fury
February 12, 2010, 05:39 PM
Just bought a S&W 3914 for $260 and am eying a 6904 for about the same.
Cheers, TF

M2 Carbine
February 12, 2010, 05:44 PM
Makarov or steel pre lock S&W J Frame.

jon_in_wv
February 12, 2010, 05:51 PM
My first carry guns were the Makarov and the Kel Tec P-11. I would recommend the P-11 or the PF-9 if $300 bucks is all you have to spend.

Snowdog
February 12, 2010, 06:09 PM
A Bersa UC9 from SOG still sells for 299.95, so technically still under $300. There's no doubt in my mind that's the route I'd go. (https://www.southernohiogun.com/index.php/bersa-thunder-9mm-ultra-com-13rd.html)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_N4UyqS2ar9A/SGk3K58k0UI/AAAAAAAAARk/F2U98REcsiQ/s400/bersaUC9mm.jpg

I have the "Pro" model that cost me a bit more, but it has proven to be an awesome deal. I love the thing.

Magic_Man
February 12, 2010, 10:16 PM
Kel-Tec or LCP for sub $300. I own an LCp that I carry when the M&P or XD would be too bulky.

Deltaboy
February 12, 2010, 10:19 PM
I would get a MAK.

Ben86
February 12, 2010, 10:49 PM
I'd probably go with a Bersa. Maybe a Sigma.

jon_in_wv
February 12, 2010, 11:19 PM
I also had one of the 9mm Bersas as one of my carry guns. The only problem with it is that accessories are non-existent and finding a decent holster is tougher than other brands. Mine was a little finicky about what ammo it shot well (accuracy wise) but it was always very reliable. The safety and slide stop are ambidextrous but they came from the factory with really sharp edges. A little filing and some cold blue fixed that nicely.

Snowdog
February 13, 2010, 12:46 AM
Jon, just a heads up if you still have your Bersa: Glock 19 holsters work wonderfully for the UC9 (or G17 for the fullsize Thunder 9mm). It's what I use for carry when toting the UC9 and the holster doesn't know the difference.

jon_in_wv
February 13, 2010, 08:39 AM
Thanks for the heads up buy I traded it off years ago. I just didn't shoot it that accurately. It wasn't the weapons fault, it was very mechanically accurate. It just didn't fit me for some reason. Now I carry a M&P 9C.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
February 13, 2010, 09:12 PM
S&W Sigma 40VE
Kel-Tec PF9

my two favorites from what ive owned. the sigma has been the most reliable pistol ive EVER had.

BHP FAN
February 14, 2010, 04:30 AM
+ one more for the Bulgarian Mak,or PA63. You can buy a holster and a boat load of ammo with the money left over, especially with the PA63.

CZ223
February 14, 2010, 09:12 AM
at how much gun $300 can buy these days. There are several new guns out there like the KT pf9, p11, as well as a few of the Taurus guns. Also youcan buy the Ruger LCP or a S&W Sima for the same price. I do think however that the used/Police trade in market is where you will get the most gun for the money. Check out www.summitgunbroker.com. Mark has lots oif gun in that price range. The Third gen S&W's might be a little on the heavy side but they are great guns as are the used Glocks. The S&W's are going for as little as $269 while a second gen G22 will set you back $330. These are good days indeed.:D

skoro
February 14, 2010, 09:44 AM
If you only had $300.00 to protect your life, day in and day out, what would you buy?

What I did buy was a KelTec PF-9. No regrets.

acmax95
February 14, 2010, 04:06 PM
I paid $300 for 4" Ruger Security Six. I can conceal it if I really try and it has plenty of power.

If I only could only keep one of my guns I think this would be it.

OldCavSoldier
February 14, 2010, 04:10 PM
Used S&W M10 or M64 and a couple of speed loaders

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