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Vantactical
February 12, 2010, 02:42 PM
New to this forum….1st Gun Forum ….so be Gentle…

Looking for feedback / experience / comments.

I own a Springfield 45XD….Love it !
However, kind of too big to Carry.

I am teaching my wife to shoot using the 45
She….whew….fell in love with the sport and now wants her own.:what:

So, I am looking for something she can shoot comfortably and I can Carry.

So Far….
Springfield XDM-9mm: thinking keeping the guns similar speaks volumes for handling and safety / comfort purposes.
Or
Ruger SR9-9mm

Like to get a high capacity, ambidextrous safety, Reliable, clean carry gun that is not as strong as the 45 - so my wife can shoot and I can carry.;)

Ideas?

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Hk Dan
February 12, 2010, 02:50 PM
Both good choices.

I wouldn't rule out GLOCK or M&P either. GLOCK has a serious advantage in accessory pricing and availability, M&P has the backstrap thing, and both are easier to clean that the XD (lotta nooks and crannies on that thing).

One good thing about doing a new XD? No learning curve for you as the coach and maintenance guy!

Dan

Vantactical
February 12, 2010, 03:01 PM
Yes, my q-tips love those nooks and crannies....ugh.

don't know much about this stuff...been only an owner for a few years but have a GREAT teacher myself.

This is the start of my researching our options...I love the XD, but really have nothing to compare it too either....so I do not want to be too.....stubborn or bias.

Yes, we must go handle them....hold it....fire it is possible...

appreciate the immediate feedback Hk Dan

modifiedbrowning
February 12, 2010, 04:55 PM
Checkout the Walther P99. Great ergonomics (three different size backstraps), very nice trigger in the AS model (DA/SA). A little pricier than the XD though, P99s go for around $650 to $700.
Also checkout the FN FNP (now FNX) series.

David E
February 12, 2010, 05:00 PM
I own a Springfield 45XD….Love it !
However, kind of too big to Carry.

It's not too big at all.........but it does require a GOOD holster mounted on a good belt.

I favor the BraveHeart by www.kytac.com

I carry my XD-40 4" in that all the time.

If the wife already likes the XD platform, then it makes sense to stay with it. They offer a 3" version that you can use 16 rd magazines for with a sleeve. The result is the gun feels like it has a full grip, making it easier to shoot. Come time to carry, go with the flush fitting mag and you're good to go. (you'll still need a good holster and belt, tho)

btg3
February 12, 2010, 05:13 PM
The whole carry thing is a bit of a learning curve. Admittedly in my case, I got the cart before the horse, in that I picked a gun before I thought much about how I wanted to carry. Still in that mode, to some extent because I'm starting to experiment with holsters (other than a Fobus paddle) to carry my M&Pc 9mm. For the past 3 years, I've pocket carried a 642, but would prefer to carry the M&Pc if I can find the holster solution. Just saying you may want to think about how you plan to carry before commiting to what you'll be carrying. And of course you'll get what you pay for regarding holsters, so allow perhaps $75 or thereabouts in your budget... assuming you pick the right one the first time.

drummin_man627
February 12, 2010, 07:12 PM
How about the local range? Do they have rentals? That's probably the most cost-efficient way to find which models fit yours and the Mrs. hand, and which are comfortable to shoot.

pbearperry
February 12, 2010, 07:32 PM
I have been buying different guns for years in hope of finding the perfect gun.Sadly it hasen't been made yet.That's why I own several to cover all of my needs.Now if I could only find the perfect motorcycle.lol

Vantactical
February 15, 2010, 01:42 PM
I think buying the Gun AND holster at the same time is a great suggestion and one that I would not have considered.

That is why I like forums.

I know little about the Walther P99, but will look into it.


"I have been buying different guns for years in hope of finding the perfect gun.Sadly it hasen't been made yet.That's why I own several to cover all of my needs.Now if I could only find the perfect motorcycle.lol "

WELL SAID !

searcher451
February 15, 2010, 08:28 PM
Whatever you do, my best advice to you is not to select a gun for her and then present it to her as a present. Let her make the selection herself. Take her to a range that rents guns, or go to a grange and invite your friends who own a variety of handguns; have them bring their guns along so that your wife can pick and choose the one that best fits her hand and eye.

That having been said, be sure that someone brings along a Walther P99C in 9mm. It's top of the line and a great carry gun,

jad0110
February 15, 2010, 09:25 PM
Quote:
I own a Springfield 45XD….Love it !
However, kind of too big to Carry.

It's not too big at all.........but it does require a GOOD holster mounted on a good belt.

I agree. A good holster, and even more importantly, a good solid gun belt make all the difference. I have no problems carrying a 4" all steel .357 Magnum Ruger Police Service Six and a 5" 1911.

Then again, some find the fat double stack autos challenging to conceal anyway, so YMMV. Exactly what part of your XD45 was the most challenging to carry? Keep in mind that most find that it is the width, not the barrel length, that is most challenging to conceal. Not everyone, but most. In that regard, the XDM-9 may not carry any better than the XD-45 you have now.

wilkersk
February 16, 2010, 12:10 AM
If I were buying a CCW gun today, it'd be the .32NAA.

Let's face it, if you're not in LE, but you feel the need to carry, you want something with the most concealability, stopping power, lowest recoil, and is the simpliste to operate. That's a tough task. I think this pistol is the one that seems to pull it all off for a reasonable price.

chicharrones
February 16, 2010, 01:56 AM
No offense to the NAA Guardian owners. I own a .32 ACP Guardian myself and I like it. I can't speak of the .380 sized Guardian chambered in .32NAA as it should be more powerful.

However, it is not the best CCW gun for someone with lesser hand strength (like a woman) to own and operate. Yes, it is small and it is fairly well made. Being a true DAO pistol is a plus, with double strike capability. It does have its downsides, though.

It is a blowback gun and felt recoil is fairly great for its size. At least as much as a .380 Ruger LCP. Racking the slide with that blowback strength dual recoil spring is stout for some people. The trigger pull weight is also too much for some people. The Guardians are really a man's gun in a woman's sized package.

As far as stopping power, at least in the .32 ACP, there is this article to consider.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/crime/bullet-stopping-blackberry-saves-woman-at-local-frickers-543968.html

I do carry my Guardian when I have no other choice, but I'd much prefer to carry at least a .380 ACP or .38 Special instead.

Vantactical
February 23, 2010, 08:32 AM
Walther PPS ?

Opinions?

Just One Shot
February 23, 2010, 10:26 AM
Since she likes the XD why not get her a 9mm or a .40 XD Sub Compact? It's smaller and easier to conceal than the full size and every bit as accurate.

Vantactical
February 23, 2010, 10:54 AM
We held the XD and the PPS

we thought the PPS was more suitable (size wise) for her. Single stack vs. double stack makes a huge difference in Grip thickness.

The XD was still pretty large...

I am an XD Fan, do not misunderstand me. However the PPS was very impressive and if that is the catalyst to keep her excited about shooting, I am all for it !

I do not think I can go wrong with either.

wondering if anybody has the NEW PPS and looking for feedback.

Walkalong
February 23, 2010, 10:57 AM
Of your two original choices, the XD, hands down. Besides, you know you like that platform already.

Walkalong
February 23, 2010, 10:59 AM
we thought the PPS was more suitable (size wise) for herSounds like she has found one she likes, and mama gets what mama wants.

Vantactical
February 23, 2010, 11:05 AM
Is there "that' much of a difference between the two ?

thesecond
February 23, 2010, 11:41 AM
Walther PPS (9mm) - very light, very thin grip width, good in small(er) hands, light and short trigger (may be a good or a bad thing, depending). I'd suggest that your wife get a chance to shoot it first, however. If you have a friend who has one (gun store/range likely won't have one as a rental), see if they can meet you at the range, so your wife can try it. It has 'sharper' recoil than other compact/sub-compacts (e.g. Glock 26, Sig 239, XD9), but it's plenty more concealable. Shooting with the PPS and the XD are noticeably different. (Felt recoil on the PPS is snappy - not painful - but then again, I like airlite revolvers.) A rubber/polymer overgrip (Hogue Handall) may address some of the recoil issue, if you buy it before shooting with one at the range. Good luck :)

blitzen
February 23, 2010, 01:20 PM
Not gonna suggest what to get but I have an XDM and I like it for what it is but it is not a small gun. The grip is long for a CC gun. If I had it to do again I would forgo the couple extra rounds and go with a standard XD 9mm. Don't rule out the M&P or others.

mongo4567
February 23, 2010, 02:36 PM
No safety except the triggger, but you should check out the Kahr PM9. It is a little snappy for its size/weight with the recoil, but very concealable. I have a PM40 and love it; but I wouldn't think a new shooter would like it due to the recoil for the size/weight.

sprint51
February 23, 2010, 02:53 PM
van,
did they have any HK p7's to try? Once the unique manual of arms is learned i believe it's one of the easiest weapons to hit well with-very low recoil(gas operation sucks up most of it),very reliable,fits the hand great(p7,not p7 m13),great trigger pull,.sadly no longer in production and very expensive.

Vantactical
February 23, 2010, 03:14 PM
" no longer in production and very expensive."


well, my time machine is "in the works" so I can get rich to pay for one, and 'go back' and buy a New one.:neener:

and who said people don't want to help.:)

mljdeckard
February 23, 2010, 03:20 PM
I'm going to dissent.

I cringe whenever anyone says; "Too big to carry". I think this mostly comes from gun magazines and manufacturers trying to convince us that one gun isn't enough. Larger guns are generally easier to shoot accurately. I have carried a full-size 1911 for years, including in 100+ degree summers, if it's too big, someone forget to tell me.

Do what you want, and use what works for you, but I always tell people to carry the biggest gun they can handle.

Lonestar49
February 23, 2010, 09:07 PM
Like to get a high capacity, ambidextrous safety, Reliable, clean carry gun that is not as strong as the 45 - so my wife can shoot and I can carry.

Ideas?



Hmmm, if 9+1 of 9mm in SAO 1911 works for ya both, take a look at the SA EMP 3" bull barrel.

Very ccw, "very accurate", full grip, no pinkie mag extension.. 3-dot night sights, 3 mags, wood grips, lifetime warranty

A great "investment" with a great, 3.5lb same, clean/break, trigger pull every time. Ambi thumb/slide lock safety and palm grip safety..

Tack drivers, reliable as they come

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/DSC_7933-1.jpg


Ls

sprint51
February 24, 2010, 07:05 AM
van,
it's only 1400.00,you spent that getting your Jeep to ride 3/16" higher :D.

mljdeckard: I agree 100%,in the words of clint smith "guns are meant to be comforting,not comfortable"

Vantactical
February 24, 2010, 09:09 AM
Ok, Sprint51...
fyi it was 1/4"...ha

I know, why not everybody just come with us the the GS and we can figure it out there...

I am lucky enough she wants to shoot also...if I can get a comprimise...Win_Win !

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