high cap/double stack 1911s - appreciate hands on user advice


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Sheepdog1968
February 12, 2010, 03:18 PM
Dear All,
I am interested in getting a high-capacity double stack 1911 (yes I know this is technically not a 1911 but you get my point). I already have other 45s in alloy, steel, plastic, high cap, traditional 1911 format. I am not looking for it to be a target pistol. If it shot 4Ē at 20 yards that would be fine. The majority of the use will be social plinking at the range. It may replace my travel companion firearm and also eventually serve as the back-up home defense weapon (carry it around house/shoot my way back to the long arm).

Do any of you have hands on experience (good or bad) with any of the double stack 1911ís? I know Springfield has a high cap GI model (13+1) and Para Ordinance has a 14+1 model. There are some others as well. Again, Iíve got plenty of other 45s so Iím not looking for advice on plastic vs steel, etc. I really would appreciate any advice you have on the high cap 1911s.

Many thanks.

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geronimo509
February 12, 2010, 04:46 PM
I had a Para P14.45 gun rights model. I do not think I ever had a malfunction. It was a dream to shoot and by far my most accurate handgun. I ended up trading it for something that will actually get some use. I could conceal it pretty well for such a big gun, but it turns out that I have a nickle allergy. The thumb safety, slide stop, and grip safety are nickle plated or something and I would get a rash from the contact.

Oh I was only able to get 13 +1 in it. I guess I could have squeezed a 14th in it, but 14 total was good enough for me.

jaysouth
February 12, 2010, 04:53 PM
Your choices are Bul or Para Ordnance. Personally, my experience with both sucks.

If you absolutely have to have more than 7+1 capacity in a 1911 .45, you need a bodyguard.

If you absolutely have to have a reliable double stack .45, get a Smith and Wesson M&P.

SideArmed
February 12, 2010, 05:25 PM
Your choices are Bul or Para Ordnance. Personally, my experience with both sucks.

If you absolutely have to have more than 7+1 capacity in a 1911 .45, you need a bodyguard.

If you absolutely have to have a reliable double stack .45, get a Smith and Wesson M&P.
Caspian has nice frames for high cap...Kimber...STI make good weapons.

I personally would look for a milspec highcap - Springfield or even a Rock Island Armory

Best advice is to use good mags.

I for one must need a body guard ... as I do not trust my life with a weapon loaded with 7 rds.

RobMoore
February 12, 2010, 05:34 PM
Double Stack 1911s (or 2011s) get used the most in the Limited Division of USPSA. There, the STI is the most popular, and you won't find very many other places where these types of guns are run as hard.

http://www.stiguns.com/guns/guns.php

jaysouth
February 12, 2010, 06:20 PM
Do not buy a used or new double stack with a Bul frame. These include Kimber, Wilson Combat and Charles Daly. All have been discontinued because of problems.

STI is OK if you want to pay the freight for one. Caspian double stack is good or bad depepending on the smith that made it up.

Glocks work very well, ditto for Smith and Wesson

Quack
February 12, 2010, 07:02 PM
well seeing that the OP is in California, he's limited on his choices. he can't get a New STI, but can find one that's already in the state.

personally i shoot a STI Edge.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_1438.jpg

Skinsanity
February 12, 2010, 07:11 PM
I have a LLama IX-D a copy of the para, and have been extremely impressed with it on all levels. It is a commander sized slide and barrel with a double stack magazine (factory is 10 rounds but para mags fit and function like they were made for it, bumping your cap to a proper 13+1) accuracy is within your limits, the pistol shoots better than I do. I usually shoot at 7 yards standing, have never benched it at 25 yards, but I do bounce pop cans around at the 25 yard line....and I cant recall a FTF ever in that pistol to be honest, except when a friend was limpwristing it. So let the LLama flaming begin ;)

Vonderek
February 12, 2010, 07:12 PM
I have a P14.45 LDA (one of the early ones). The trigger took a ton of getting used to. I probably shot at least 300 rounds before I was comfortable with it. Once that is mastered it is a very accurate and reliable (feeding and firing that is) handgun. My only beef is with the magazine release. The button seems to be oversized and would inadvertantly release the magazine while I was driving or sitting in an office chair (I use to carry it IWB). Later, upon drawing the handgun the magazine would fall out and clatter to the floor. After a couple of times of that happening, the gun became a safe queen. It would also make a good house gun. I don't trust carrying it in its current state and have other options so have no need to make the expense of changing the release button.

S&Wfan
February 12, 2010, 08:16 PM
A Para that works well is a fine weapon indeed . . . and usually very accurate.

Once you load a high cap to the brim with .45ACP you'll be amazed at how much extra weight it adds, thus I don't carry this one concealed. It WOULD make a good home defense gun and/or traveling companion.

Mine's also an early Para full sized LDA in .45 ACP, the P14.45 LDA Limited with Para's version of the Bomar rear sight. The trigger is nice . . . but different than a stock 1911 trigger. Mine's VERY accurate and easy to shoot.

Since threads need photos, here's one:

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/363/363373/folders/282194/2438813IMG1173w1.jpg

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