[TonyB]

Who has one and what is it...I've been thinking of getting an old 38 snubby to keep as a car gun.....always good to have a back up handy.....a revolver would be good so you don't have to worry about dirt ,lint or lube issues....what do you think?:cool:

[dairycreek]

Not a good idea in my opinion! If you are carrying concealed then what is the need for a car gun? Leaving a gun in a car is an invitation for bad things to happen. If it is stolen then what? Check your state's liability laws, you may be courting personal disaster. If you desire a backup then, by all means, carry a backup . My best advice is to never leave a gun in a car. Good shooting;)

[Sunray]

Yep, you'd be leaving a firearm in an insecure place. And you still have to worry about dirt and lint with a revolver. Especially, one you plan of allowing some criminal steal from your vehicle.

[TonyB]

Good point......I guess I didn't really think this thru.....:uhoh:
Hey all my ideas can't be winners....(to quote myself at work)...I guess maybe a pocket gun as backup would be better.....:cool:

[45+]

Keeping my "carry" gun on me and not in my car is a good idea, I think. The same is true for my bug, which I carry 90+% when away from the house. I could be ambushed and these guns taken from me creating the same legal quandry mentioned but I intend to keep packin'.

I also carry a "car gun" with me when I leave the house in my vehicle. There are ways to secure a weapon in a vehicle, and I personally use some of these methods to secure a .44 Mag or .357 Levergun. I discreetly put it in the vehicle when I leave the house, bring it back in the house when I return. I do not display the weapon openly since that is not required in Texas for a long gun. I have it "camoflaged" so that it is not obvious what it is. I have carried some such "car gun" for many years. It was my primary weapon when away from my house prior to getting my ccw, since that was my only possible legal carry here in Texas.

During a few periods I have legally carried an "extra" gun secured and hidden in my vehicle when things looked especially "challenging" (like when a BG threatened to kill my whole family). When I am in the car, it is not as secure as when I leave the vehicle. I secure my guns at home, in my vehicle, or while traveling. I only carry legally, but I almost always carry. It just requires a little more thought and some available hardware to find what works for you. These things combined with discretion can provide some very useful methods of carry.

[45+]

Sorry, I forgot one other thought. If you drop an extra in your pocket, it is probably a small gun of some sort. When I carry an "extra" handgun in the car, I do not carry a "mouse gun". It is about as easy to carry a large handgun in a car as it is to carry a small one.

Each state has different laws. I live in Texas and my decisions are based on what I know about the laws that apply to me. Other areas may be very different.

[Mastrogiacomo]

A revolver would be a great carry gun but don't do a Sean Penn and leave it in the car. It's illegal in my state anyway and it's one rule I don't argue with. My guns stay with me. :)

[Min]

I have a dedicated car gun. It's a Bersa .380 I got in a gun show with no paperwork. I leave it tucked into a secure place. I have one extra mag for it and a zipper pouch full of Silver Bear HP ammo.

The key here is "off the records".

[Edward429451]

No way. Only dedicated extra mags.:D

[justice4all]

I do use this method, especially since I often can't discretely carry anything bigger than my P32, which is usually in my pants pocket, and thus hard to draw while seated in my vehicle.

[Hazwaste]

Car gun? -- NO
Car Ammo? -- YES

[rappa]

Car gun\carry gun for me is basically the same thing. However, I only leave it in the car for brief periods of time if I'm going somewhere I can't carry (e.g. work, post office, airport, etc). I don't leave any firearms, ammo, mags, etc in my car overnight.

[10-Ring]

I don't like the idea of keeping a gun in the car. Just not enough benefit to outway the risks you open yourself up to.

[goober]

For those who wouldn't leave a gun in their car...

What about a job where handguns are not allowed at all (i.e school or hospital). Would you carry it anyway, or store it in your bag or locker at work (also could be stolen)?

Just wondering what is the safest way.

Greg

[gbran]

I have a compact Glock 30 in 45 ACP. I'm considering a G29 compact in 10mm. I understand it will accept the preban 15 rnd G20 mag. I'd carry it with the std 10 rnd mag, but use the 15 rnd mag while it's in the car. I spend a lot of time on the road and in some remote places. This may not be needed or practical in the city. I once had some nut stalk me while I was out 4 wheeling in the mountains.

[M2 Carbine]

The guns change from time to time but right now,
2 S&W 38 Specials, a 40 cal Baby Eagle and a M1 Carbine in the car.

2 357 Rugers and a M1 Carbine in the truck.

Plus a Kimber 45 and Kel Tec 380 carry.


I don't worry about the cars being broken into and guns in the safe are no use at all.

Besides I don't have any room in the safes.:)

[James Bondrock]

Who has one and what is it...I've been thinking of getting an old 38 snubby to keep as a car gun.....always good to have a back up handy.....a revolver would be good so you don't have to worry about dirt ,lint or lube issues....what do you think?

If by "car gun" you are talking about a scenario-specific carjack defense gun, and you are not going to routinely leave it in the car, I think a snub revolver is superior. Revolvers do not eject empty cases, something that might be distracting when fired inside the car. And the short barrel does not give the carjacker much to hold onto. Provided he does not get his hand around the cylinder and keep it from turning (hence the gun from being fired), you can blow his hand off! :eek: ;) I want to use my Ruger SP101 .357 for such duty.

[Texas Bob]

How "Dedicated" are you willing to be. Is your car "type" on the top ten list of "most stolen"? Can your car be equipted with a Mossberg quick access safe, otherwise any collision above 10mph is guaranteed to send your gun "flying." Your grips need to be temperature neutral, in that they will not heat up or get to cold during the long hours you are away from it. Lastly, research the local laws you live under to see if it's advisable.

[Gordon]

Had a CZ97 for this duty for a while until I found out (by shooting it) just how great it was AND how quick it rusts! Back to the S&W Sigma .40 with 2 high caps in it's plastic factory box with a tear away .$ .69 lock to keep it California legal! I am in this gun $200 and it is accurate and had no malf in 400 rounds!

[roscoe]

Just bolt a gun safe under the driver's seat - one like model 4105 here:
http://www.handgunsafe.com/safes.htm

I think you would have no worry about the gun being stolen and I think access would be something like 3-6 seconds once you were familiar with it. Now, if you drive a car you are worried about having stolen, that's another matter.

[4thHorseman]

Colt Magnum Carry is mine.

[M2 Carbine]

I think I'll just continue to leave my guns in the cars 24/7.:)

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Lufkin, TX - The search for accused double murderer Scott Eizember is over. Police in Lufkin, Texas say Eizember is hospitalized in stable condition after being shot four times by a man he allegedly kidnapped Sunday.

Creek County Sheriff's Deputy Mike O'Keefe told reporters that after this morning's events in Depew, where an elderly woman was confronted by a man believed to be Eizember, police began an investigation.

O'Keefe says it's believed that Eizember took the woman's vehicle to Fort Smith, Arkansas, where he then kidnapped a doctor and his wife at gunpoint. They have been identified as Dr. Samuel Peebles and his wife, Suzanne, of Nashville, Arkansas.

Eizember forced them to travel south, where, near Lufkin, Texas, Dr. Peebles was able to retrieve a handgun that he had concealed in the minivan and shot Eizember four times in the chest area.

Peebles then transported Eizember to the hospital, where he underwent surgery for what were considered non-life-threatening wounds. We're told he is in stable condition.



O'Keefe says their big break came at about 2:30 p.m., when Eizember's former girlfriend, Kathy Biggs, received a phone call from someone who said that she was with Eizember and that he was coming to get Biggs.

Police in Creek County began tracking Eizember's phone calls and while they were investigating, they received the phone call from Lufkin police, who told them of the shooting.

Although it has not been confirmed by fingerprints, O'Keefe says it has been confirmed by photograph.

Eizember has been on the run for five weeks since allegedly going on a rampage in Depew on October 18th. He is charged with first-degree murder in the shooting deaths of A.J. and Patsy Cantrell of Depew.

Eizember is also charged with shooting with intent to kill in the shooting of 16-year-old Tyler Montgomery, who continues to recover after being hospitalized in critical condition. Eizember also faces a charge of assault and battery with a deadly weapon in the brutal beating of Montgomery's grandmother, Carla Wright.

[Beren]

When I worked as an independent consultant (lots of travel to and from various client sites), my firearm was always on me. I took great pains to ensure it always stayed concealed from view so as not to frighten the clients. (Glock 23 at the time.) When I switched to a corporate desk job, I started securing it in the vehicle upon arrival. Generally, I would perform a quick strip and keep the barrel and ammo with me. (Policy forbids firearms in the workplace but says nothing about ammunition. I may disagree with the policy but I agreed to abide by it.) Took seconds to strip out the barrel and ammo and seconds to reassemble after work. If someone had broken into the car they still would've gotten my frame and slide but at least it would have been of no immediate use to them.

[45+]

Great post, Beren. Certainly gives food for thought about keeping weapon in various stages of disassembly and taking parts (especially ammo) away from vehicle. Thanks for sharing.

Safe packin'...

[M2 Carbine]

Beren,
That's a good idea breaking the gun down at work.

The Texas law is a "traveler" can carry a handgun.
Before the CHL I drove to the Gulf of Mexico coast from the Ft Worth area every week to go to work.
When I got to work I'de leave my guns in the company rented apartments, in a locked foot locker.

One week the company wanted us to sign one of those forms, you know, no guns, drugs, etc on company property.

I told them no way, half the pilots, mechanics and supervisors carried pistols "traveling" and we weren't going to leave them in the cars.
Not to mention the risk of them being stolen, once you got to your destination you were no longer a "traveler".

We were told to scratch out guns and sign. :D

[Frenchy]

This old girl rides in my 1979 J-10 Jeep pickup.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Nov/200311249002039093003978.jpg

[Bainx]

My trusty Makarov has had this duty for several years and has served quite well. I check it once a month and clean and lube for rust protection as needed. It stays in a simple concealment cloth bag along with a couple of holsters---both IWB and OWB.

Always have a gun. Always.