saiga-12 a rifle?

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Jim_100
February 13, 2010, 05:30 PM
I am sure this has been covered many times but I don't mind being yelled at. Is the barrel on Saiga-12 rifled? and if so does it then not shoot buckshot very well? I have never had the chance to shoot one and I have to imagine they are pretty mean.
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Girodin
February 13, 2010, 05:48 PM
It is a chrome lined smooth bore.
PTK
February 13, 2010, 07:54 PM
Yours was chrome lined? The two I have aren't.
Girodin
February 13, 2010, 08:36 PM
Are you sure they are not chrome lined? I have also been under they impression that it is a standard feature of the S12.
PTK
February 14, 2010, 05:27 AM
I shortened one further for someone in person for their F1. The stub I kept was ordinary blued steel, and from what I can see on the two I have, they're both just blue on the inside as well.
lipadj46
February 16, 2010, 11:22 AM
My saiga has a chrome lined barrel. That is one of the features that people buy it for.
Girodin
February 16, 2010, 07:10 PM
PTK,

What is the year of production on those guns?

Do you have pics of the non chrome bore?

I have never heard of them not being chrome.
PTK
February 16, 2010, 11:28 PM
I'll snap some pictures next time I have them out. Could be a while, they're buried right now. :)
desidog
February 17, 2010, 12:18 PM
OP; no and no.

the barrel isn't rifled, but if it were, buckshot would not do well. The spin imparted on a single projectile by a rifled barrel keeps that projectile spinning on axis...whereas a bunch of projectiles together are all going to be spinning down the barrel around that axis, essentially taking the path of a corkscrew down the barrel...which means they will all disperse outward from that axis as soon as they leave the barrel.

Edit to add: There is no mention of Chrome anywhere on the RAA website.
SDC
February 17, 2010, 12:22 PM
At one time, Izhmash made what they called a "Saiga 310" which was essentially a semi 7.62 AK with a smooth barrel, and which fired an odd shot capsule version of the 7.62x39mm round, but it didn't go very far in production.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p22/StaceyC123/762x39shot.jpg
CKinVA
February 17, 2010, 11:37 PM
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but this is from a Saiga 12 Service Manual:

"To improve the shotgun resistance the barrel bore and chamber, as well as the piston and gas cylinder are chrome-lined."

page 8
section 1.3.1, paragraph 6
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