Anyone know the best AR-15 platform considering the price?


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Jsor
February 16, 2010, 01:29 AM
I'm looking for a good quality gun in the AR-15 platform. I'm not wanting to spend over 600 dollars, so leave me input on new and used guns.

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lions
February 16, 2010, 01:35 AM
You could get a Del-Ton rifle kit for $465 and their lowers are $120. You would have to build it yourself but that is very easy and straight forward. You could probably find a cheaper lower too. Don't forget shipping and a FFL transfer fee on the lower. That ought to bring you in right around your target budget. Good luck.

Rifle Kit:
http://www.del-ton.com/Rifle_Kit_p/rkt104.htm
They have other kits if you want a different style.

Lower receiver:
http://www.del-ton.com/Del_Ton_Lower_Receiver_p/lr100.htm

More info here:
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=505474

sv51macross
February 16, 2010, 01:43 AM
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?cart=2207568&cat=161&

CMMG bargain bin ARs. Right now it's 16" M4gerys, sans rear sight. 599.99, another 25 gets you the best pick of the pile. From what I've read, CMMGs are very good, at the level or above Stag.

GPWASR10
February 16, 2010, 01:47 AM
^ Yup, these guns are all built using the same basic specs, it is hard to go wrong with any of the above options.

essayons21
February 16, 2010, 01:42 PM
Del-ton usually does some outstanding deals on m4gery rifle kits, Call up you local kitchen table FFL and you should be able to get a stripped lower for under $100. Build it yourself and you'll get a good quality AR for under $600.

kwelz
February 16, 2010, 08:12 PM
In your price range you are probably best suited with a CMMG Bargain bin rifle. Not my first choice but for the money it is the best you are going to get.

I would suggest saving up another 200 and getting a BCM however.

Jsor
February 21, 2010, 06:22 PM
What's the cheapest platform where I wouldn't have to order separate parts? Like a complete gun...

lions
February 21, 2010, 09:06 PM
What's the cheapest platform where I wouldn't have to order separate parts? Like a complete gun...

Check the link in post #3.

chadintex
February 21, 2010, 09:20 PM
I got two of the CMMG bargain bin rifles on Friday and they are very nice for the money. I have not shot them yet, but they look fantastic. One of them has a small scratch on the lower, but the other seems perfect. I will order more.

taliv
February 21, 2010, 09:35 PM
really? did they stop storing them in barrels?

Jsor
February 23, 2010, 09:58 PM
Isn't the bargain bin kind of sketchy though? Because you aren't quite sure what you are getting? And say if I could spend $800. Would you suggest something different?

Zerodefect
February 23, 2010, 10:22 PM
The CMMG BB 18" 1/7 is a good rifle, even if you don't knoe exactly whats in it, it still tends to be better than BM, RRA, Delton etc.

But still this is all just random opinions until you tell us exactly what the rifles purpose is.

My opinion: Get a Colt LE6920

Jsor
February 23, 2010, 10:34 PM
It will be for hunting coyotes and going to the range.

Zerodefect
February 23, 2010, 10:39 PM
Ok, thats better.

The CMMG BB 18" 1/7 or Stag of your choice will work fine. Or build one yourself with a BCM upper and any lower you want.

Personally, the CMMG is hard to pass up right now.

Jsor
February 23, 2010, 10:48 PM
Could you maybe post some good links where I can buy lowers and uppers?

Ughh
February 23, 2010, 10:50 PM
really? I didn't think they made so many AR-15 platform rifles for less than $600--considering new right? :eek:

Geez i'm interested in this thread already

Ughh
February 23, 2010, 10:51 PM
Colt LE 6920 cannot be under 6... can it?

Zerodefect
February 23, 2010, 11:00 PM
I just order lowers from my local gun store. I like ordering the LMT complete lowers, google Lewis Machine and tool.

Also check out ar15.com, go to their "build it yourself section". The have a step by step build instructions for AR's. Even if you buy uppers and lowers assembled its still good info to know before buying.

BCM (lots of top quality parts):
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-mid-16.htm

And you can select your choice of carrier, charging handle, and bolt, stick with BCM. Also grab a handgard tool, it makes removing and installing handgards a breeze.

Zerodefect
February 23, 2010, 11:18 PM
No Ughh, you won't catch me recommending low priced AR's too often. As I mentioned in the examples above I often feel its better to spend $1000-1400 and get something extremely reliable.

But for sporting use, the CMMG bargin bin rifle fits the bill and should work well.

WYcoyote
February 23, 2010, 11:24 PM
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/1020/products_id/411537957

Would be hard to beat this.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
February 23, 2010, 11:43 PM
Are the bargain bins middys?

Jsor
February 24, 2010, 03:03 AM
I was thinking about saving up like $200 more and getting an RRA in .223 with the bull barrel. What do you think?

ms6852
February 24, 2010, 03:22 AM
Try this from brownells.

http://www.ar15builder.com/

TIMC
February 24, 2010, 12:40 PM
I was thinking about saving up like $200 more and getting an RRA in .223 with the bull barrel. What do you think?

I think that is a much better idea!

I have a few AR's dedicated for hunting and with optics and accessories I don't think I have less than 2K in any one of them.

Zerodefect
February 24, 2010, 12:44 PM
Negative on the RRA in .223, same price as a Stag that can handle 5.56.


Try this upper in 1/7:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=733489
plus this lower:
http://www.lewismachine.net/product.php?p=19&cid=4&session=2b02c95dbe1b2053d1d45c205ebc8f58
then add a BCM bolt carrier assembly and charging handle


this is more like the RRA you mentioned?:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=572113

Jsor
February 24, 2010, 02:52 PM
The other thing is I want a bull barrel

Dravur
February 24, 2010, 03:06 PM
Probably the best choice for a bull barrel would be DPMS

Erik M
February 24, 2010, 07:15 PM
I went with a Double Star from Bud's. Just over $800 for a chrome lined 18" HBAR.

tju1973
February 24, 2010, 07:50 PM
The CMMG BB 18" 1/7 is a good rifle, even if you don't knoe exactly whats in it, it still tends to be better than BM, RRA, Delton etc.

But still this is all just random opinions until you tell us exactly what the rifles purpose is.

My opinion: Get a Colt LE6920
Agreed-- I love mine, and wish I would have passed on the Stag 2 at $800 and got the GMMG BB M4 carbine....

But I am glad as heck for my 18", 1/7"....

FMJMIKE
February 24, 2010, 08:06 PM
This is my CMMG Bargain Bin 18" Government profile barrel AR-15. Chrome lined 1/7 twist barrel. It cost $599 plus shipping. I added an A2 buttstock, riser mount, scope and a Magpul MOE pistol grip.............:D
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/CMMGF1.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/CMMGF2.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/CMMGF3.jpg

mljdeckard
February 24, 2010, 08:11 PM
That price is pretty slim.

Right now Noveske is giving away a blemished stripped lower with the purchase of any upper. Less than $900, and you have most of a PREMIUM AR. Then go to Brownell's or Midway, load it with lots of goodies from Magpul. The basic guts for a lower are about $60.

Seriously, a stripped lower takes 30 minutes to assemble.

sarduy
February 24, 2010, 08:13 PM
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1ATDELTONA3&groupid=11

Jsor
February 24, 2010, 10:02 PM
FMJMIKE...is that what most of the bargain bin guns look like? It looks sweet. The only thing is, I'm not that familiar with AR's, would I be able say if I did buy one and it looks exactly like yours...would I be able to replace the barrel with a bull barrel or replace the butt stock?

Jsor
February 24, 2010, 10:03 PM
Oh and how much was that scope?

FMJMIKE
February 24, 2010, 10:18 PM
This is how my CMMG rifle came out of the box............:rolleyes:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/CMMGa.jpg
It was pretty much a very nice looking rifle. It must have been the only one in the Bin because it was spotless. There is no play between the upper and lower receiver at all. I was lucky and got a CMMG lower receiver but other people have gotten others. The scope is a Leupold Vari-X II 3 X 9 X 40 and cost me $200 about 8 years ago. Replacing the buttstock is not too hard but you would need special tools to replace the barrel. The AR-15 is kinda like a Barbie Doll for guys.......You can dress it any way you wish..............:D

Jsor
February 24, 2010, 10:31 PM
And pretty much all AR-15 parts are universal...correct?

armoredman
February 24, 2010, 10:38 PM
Sheesh, those CMMgs tempt me and I am not an AR guy...

mljdeckard
February 24, 2010, 10:49 PM
They are pretty much universal, unless otherwise indicated. The most common difference is that Colt has different size holes. Go to Brownells.com and order their free AR catalog. All kinds of stuff you never knew you needed until you saw it in there. This is not the end. It's the beginning.

Zerodefect
February 24, 2010, 11:41 PM
Colt has standard size holes now. At least the 6920 I picked up new a little while ago is standard. Colt was losing alot of sales because of that non-mil spec rubbish. So they're back to normal now.

Gtscotty
February 25, 2010, 12:59 AM
If the OP wants a heavier barrel, The current CDNN magazine might not be a bad place to look. I believe there were some normal CMMG production rifles with medium or heavy contour barrels for the mid $700's through the mid $800's. CDNN also still has the Smith and Wesson Optics Ready M&P-15 for $799. I picked up one of the Smiths back in the fall, and am very satisfied. Happy hunting.

Jsor
February 25, 2010, 01:22 AM
Is there a website url you can send me?

Ughh
February 27, 2010, 12:40 AM
Jsor, Pretty much, especially the mil-spec brands like Colt, cmmg, bushmaster, etc... But I'm pretty sure not ALL of the brands are universal.

Ughh
February 27, 2010, 12:42 AM
FMJMIKE, Nice man. I bet that Leupold cost you a pretty penny :p:D

More than the rifle itself??

The Farm
February 27, 2010, 04:50 AM
Greetings from the Farm.

Anyone have any feedback on the Sig 556 Classic.

M&PVolk
February 27, 2010, 12:13 PM
I have not seen, but have heard that Smith and Wesson M&P's can be had for around $700 to $800...I would jump on that.

Ughh
February 27, 2010, 05:15 PM
I have not seen, but have heard that Smith and Wesson M&P's can be had for around $700 to $800...I would jump on that.
no freakin way?! really? I'd be interested too if that's a fact

semperfi63
February 27, 2010, 06:05 PM
Negative on the RRA in .223, same price as a Stag that can handle 5.56.


Try this upper in 1/7:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=733489
plus this lower:
http://www.lewismachine.net/product.php?p=19&cid=4&session=2b02c95dbe1b2053d1d45c205ebc8f58
then add a BCM bolt carrier assembly and charging handle


this is more like the RRA you mentioned?:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=572113
uh, the RRA is chambered in 5.56

kwelz
February 27, 2010, 09:52 PM
Ummm Actually RRA uses a Wylde Chamber. It is a hybrid between 5.56 and .223. That being said Zero is wrong on it being .223. I will ding RRA on a number of things but I have never seen a problem that was traced back to the chamber.

FMJMIKE
February 28, 2010, 09:30 AM
FMJMIKE, Nice man. I bet that Leupold cost you a pretty penny

More than the rifle itself??
The Leupold was around $300 eight years ago. It has been rebuilt by Leupold twice at no charge. It is on it's third AR-15 now.

Jsor
February 28, 2010, 06:45 PM
Is the CMMG AR California legal?

kwelz
March 1, 2010, 11:48 AM
Jsor, I don't believe that it is.

Ughh
March 2, 2010, 11:16 PM
The Leupold was around $300 eight years ago. It has been rebuilt by Leupold twice at no charge. It is on it's third AR-15 now.
Geez, thank you for that bit of info. It really shows the company's commitment to customer satisfaction; I'm thinking of Leupold Mark IV MR/T myself and hearing that really helps.

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