RANGE REPORT FOR THE SAVAGE & MagnumLight!!!! The good & the REALLY bad!!!


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AKElroy
February 20, 2010, 06:44 PM
First, THE GOOD. I have posted often regarding the saga in obtaining a Savage Weather Warrior .308 Accustock/Accutrigger Lefty, Leupold 4.5X14X40 AO Vari X III, DeadNutz One-Piece mounts/rings.

I received the rifle last week after a 6 week ordeal, and promptly bore-sighted to a stop sign up the street. I had it dialed in 2" high, dead center @ 100 yards in just 6 rounds. I took 3 ammo types; Federal Premium 165gr, Winchester PowerPoint 150gr & Remington CoreLocked 150gr. I was hoping it would like either of the lower cost loadings. It did!

OK, I have no target pics because the range was slammed & I did not want to wait. Feel free to ignore my group size claims. As for break-in, all I did was run a boresnake w/ a little Hoppe's after every 2 rounds for the first 10 rounds fired.

Trigger is PHENOMINAL. I am guessing under 3lbs, zero creep, crisp let-off. love it! Recoil with the extra squishy pad is extremely light, less than my .243. VERY easy to shoot well. All groups were at or slightly better than 1MOA with the Powerpoints. I switched to the Federal Premiums, expecting a different POI, and it was 1" high and 1" left of the set zero for the Powerpoints. The first two rounds went into the same hole. The third was a called flyer that opened the group to .75. The gun plain SHOOTS.

My only disappointments? The new bolt release is a PLASTIC button built into the trigger guard. The trigger must be pulled and the button pushed to remove the bolt. I hate it. Second, the mag spring is tight, and the feed lips are close together making it difficult to situate the rounds correctly to get them in the box. These are minor issues, but this reporter thought you should know.

I LOVE this rifle, and it is now my go-to hog & deer getter.

Now the BAD NEWS!

I HATE my MagnumResearch Magnumlight. This is a ground-up 10/22 based factory high-end build with a carbon fiber / graphite / stainless barrel, machined-in rail, Blackhawk Knox adjustable stock. I mounted a Bushnell Elite 3200 5X15X50 AO in Weaver top-mounts. It looks MEAN. It shoots like CRAP.

The problem is two-fold: First, and this is almost all of the issue, the TRIGGER IS HORRIBLE. I am guessing 10lbs easy, lots of creep. Terrible. My Yugo has a better pull. This, coupled with the VERY light rig, make for serious tremors before let-off.

Second, the pistol grip is very small. With my average sized hands, and normal grip has the trigger falling into the first joint. Extending out to the pad is unnatural feeling & nearly impossible.

I took an assortment of ammo; Ely match, Winchester Powerpoints, Velocitors, and Remy subsonics. The Powerpoints shot fine, and I set my 50 yrd zero with this round. My best group with them was 2.5 inches. That is 5 moa, friends. I was LIVID. I have a $120.00 Marlin 7000 heavy barrel that shoots minute of aspirin at 50 yards with boring regularity. I expected FAR better from this EXPENSIVE rig.

I tried the Ely match, and managed a 7 round group that I could cover with a roll-aid, fighting the trigger & bagging down the stock to no particular point on the target just to get that group. With a better pull, it will clearly shoot.

The gun functioned flawlessly, even with the subsonics. It will unfortunately sit in the safe until I can restock it, and put a new trigger in it. I am EXTREMELY frustrated that I have to go into a $900 rig (with scope) another $300 to make it usable.

Other gripes: The bolt hold-open lever is pathetically small, and finding the just-right position to lock the bolt back is difficult. Other than that, it is a typical 10/22, except that it was ridiculously expensive and does not shoot.

So, the day was not a total loss. I got to spend gun time with my 12 yr old daughter, she loved shooting the .22 even though she had to use BOTH index fingers to pull the damn trigger.

Savage -- 10
Magnum Research -- 2.5

SAVAGE RULES!!!!

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AKElroy
February 20, 2010, 07:12 PM
Pic's added above----

WC87
February 20, 2010, 07:26 PM
Hey, would you mind doing me a favor and measure the distance from outside each ring on your DedNutz? I'm having difficulty mounting a scope on a Savage 16 - got a thread below about it. Thanks.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=506638

oldfool
February 20, 2010, 07:27 PM
mighty glad you finally got that long sought after rifle !
sometimes the wait-n-pain is worth it all
too bad more people are not more aware of just how well Savage does rifles

as for the gussied up 10/22, don't despair too quickly
pert-near all 10/22s take a whole lotta extra time, effort, and $$ to go where you want to go

but there is an entire cult industry devoted to just that
ain't my thing, but a bunch of folks on rimfirecentral can give you limitless options, and not matter what you have in hand, they can get you there if you want to go there bad enough

AKElroy
February 20, 2010, 07:36 PM
Hey, would you mind doing me a favor and measure the distance from outside each ring on your DeadNutz? I'm having difficulty mounting a scope on a Savage 16 - got a thread below about it. Thanks.

Here you go---

AKElroy
February 20, 2010, 07:40 PM
but a bunch of folks on rimfirecentral can give you limitless options, and not matter what you have in hand, they can get you there if you want to go there bad enough

Exactly what I was trying to avoid in buying a near fully "modded" MR version.

WC87
February 20, 2010, 07:42 PM
Very nice! Thank you.

WC87
February 20, 2010, 07:44 PM
One other thing - what height rings? Low, med?

AKElroy
February 20, 2010, 07:50 PM
One other thing - what height rings? Low, med?

They are low. Short action gamereaper, SKU 14210. Remember mine is a LEFTY, so your SKU will be different. DNZ's website is comprehensive. Check out their fitting options for your specific model. Mine shipped same day & I had it inside a week.

WC87
February 20, 2010, 08:00 PM
you da man, thanks.

Lloyd Smale
February 21, 2010, 06:23 AM
if i paid 900 bucks for a 22 that only shot one inch at a 50 yards id be livid. If it shot 2.5 id be parading in front of there bussiness with a lemon sign!!!!

AKElroy
February 21, 2010, 04:06 PM
If it shot 2.5 id be parading in front of there bussiness with a lemon sign!!!!

$300.00 of the investment is in the scope; I got the gun for $528.00. The MR barrel, action & receiver are all match grade. I have no doubt it WILL shoot when I drop more cash into it. That is the part I hate.

Still, I have a bid in on an OEM target laminate stock to add needed heft, and I ordered a Volquartsen TG 2000 trigger group. This will take the trigger weight to a crisp 2.5lbs, and the stock will add the stability to wring the most out of it.

It should be by far the most accurate gun I own. I will post back when these begrudgingly purchased bits are received, installed & range-tested.

DeanV
February 21, 2010, 04:19 PM
Do not get a Volquartsen trigger, but try for a Kidd (I have a Jewel on my 10/22 but they do not make those anymore, gives me a 6-8 oz trigger).

Offfhand
February 21, 2010, 04:32 PM
AKE, I'm with you about the awful trigger on the MR rimfire. I've never understood why they do so much with the action but stay with the cheap trigger mechanism. A friend bought one of their high end rifles and while it looked pretty snazzy it wasn't accurate enough to justify the price and the trigger pull was like they had started with a cheap mechanism and made it even worse. He got rid of it.

1858
February 21, 2010, 04:43 PM
[1]Trigger is PHENOMINAL. I am guessing under 3lbs, zero creep, crisp let-off. love it! [2]The gun plain SHOOTS. [3] My only disappointments? The new bolt release is a PLASTIC button built into the trigger guard. The trigger must be pulled and the button pushed to remove the bolt. I hate it. [4] Second, the mag spring is tight, and the feed lips are close together making it difficult to situate the rounds correctly to get them in the box.


[1] I would agree that it's a good trigger with zero creep but mine came from the factory at just under 4lb which is too heavy for me. I'll have to lighten it a bit.

[2] Mine doesn't ... not yet anyway!! I've had two very frustrating days with 7mm-08 reloads. I should have stuck with Lyman's recommendation. According to them, the accuracy load for the 139gr SST and IMR 4895 is the starting load but they were shooting a faster barrel than mine. :(

[3] I agree but an aluminum version is in the works ... a member here called Uncle Mike (http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=80868) is selling them once they're available.

[4] My magazine is fine and works very well.

:)

Uncle Mike
February 21, 2010, 07:27 PM
I agree but an aluminum version is in the works ... a member here called Uncle Mike is selling them once they're available.

Going to the vendors shop late next week...will inquire about them then......I hope they are about done, we have a bunch of orders for them, but no thingies to sell!

the mag spring is tight, and the feed lips are close together making it difficult to situate the rounds correctly to get them in the box.

Tight mag springs are good, and if you'll load the base of the round forward, and then slide it back while pushing the rest of the shell into the mag...it'll load easier for you, remember these are 'centerfeed' mags.

AKElroy
February 21, 2010, 07:38 PM
[3] I agree but an aluminum version is in the works ... a member here called Uncle Mike is selling them once they're available.

This is OUTSTANDING news; can you PM an order form to me?

Good to know about the "center feed" mag; I have two other bolt guns, both model 70's. I am used to dropping loose shells in & snapping them down with plenty of slop room available.

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