Marlin 1894 sight options//10-22 guru's I need some info


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R.W.Dale
February 22, 2010, 12:44 PM
As it relates to the sights on a 10/22 to help me figure out if I can adapt a Tech sight set to my marlin 1894

http://www.tech-sights.com/ruger3.htm

On the Ruger appx how much difference in height is there between the top of the front sight base and the top of the receiver? and is the front sight bead a standard 3/8" dovetail.

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Jubjub
February 22, 2010, 02:05 PM
Well, a stock barrel is .920 at the breech. and about .556 next to the front sight base. The front sight base is about .085 high, and the step down from the receiver to the barrel is .098.

So, the taper would be .364. Add to that the step down from the receiver and subtract the height of the base, and I come up with a difference between the top of the receiver and the top of the front sight base of .377.

This is assuming that the barrel is straight to the receiver, and it probably isn't. 10/22 barrels usually droop due to the barrel v-block pulling on the bottom. That might add a several thousandths.

Is there any special reason that you want Tech sights? They're great, but not the first thing that I'd think of for a lever gun.

R.W.Dale
February 22, 2010, 02:42 PM
OK using your method get
.274" of bbl taper
+.040" step down
-.200 " fsb
total of .114" of drop from the FSB to the receiver on my 1894

meaning all things equal the planes in question differ by a full quarter inch. Hmmmmmmm! Sounds like a skinner ladder sight is going to be the way to go here.

Thanks for your help!

desidog
February 22, 2010, 02:50 PM
How bout this?
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0014955223040a.shtml
or
http://skinnersights.com/3.html
I'd prefer the original - you get more range.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=21577/sku/Marlin_1894___1893_Original

R.W.Dale
February 22, 2010, 03:05 PM
I would like a, A1 tech sight because it's easily adjusted and allows for a quick method of adding some extra elevation.

Tang sights are something I have no experiance with but it seems to me like they would be right in the way of carrying or using the rifle's most natural grip.

Skinners are definitely on the table and I've in fact been corresponding with Dr Skinner on having a dual aperture ladder sight made but at $100 it will be a tad pricey
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/timski_01/P3150066.jpg

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/timski_01/P3150065.jpg




BTW I HATE XS sights! Why would you pay that much $$$ for a less precise sighting system. WHO BUYS THESE THINGS? I want a new sight to shoot BETTER not worse.

R.W.Dale
February 22, 2010, 03:07 PM
I went ahead and changed the title of this thread to make it reflect marlin sights more.

ArmedBear
February 22, 2010, 03:11 PM
It seems that I've had both horizontal and vertical shifts with different loads in my 1894 .357/.38. I have to do some more testing to be sure, and I'm not sure what a good solution would be.

This sight has also intrigued me: http://www.marblearms.com/bullseyeSights.html

I'm loving the Skinner on my 24" Model 39A, though.

R.W.Dale
February 22, 2010, 03:31 PM
It seems that I've had both horizontal and vertical shifts with different loads in my 1894 .357/.38. I have to do some more testing to be sure,

Mine's kinda acting the same way, at this point I've just decided it's a one load rifle. But that's OK as 16.Xgrs of WW296 and a 158 Montana Gold JHP isn't exactly an expensive load to make a bunch of while still being very versitile. But I still want to be able to add and return to a point in elevation for those days I attempt to ring steel at 2 and 300 M:D

ArmedBear
February 22, 2010, 03:42 PM
A standard Skinner is consistent in that you can only spin it 180 degrees at a time. That's repeatable, even though it's mechanically very simple.

Does that ladder sight mount on the receiver, though? That could be very interesting. Tang sights come with their own problems, as do side-mounted sights, but a top-mount ladder sight avoids those problems.

R.W.Dale
February 22, 2010, 03:49 PM
Does that ladder sight mount on the receiver, though?

Yes it does

there's more pics in this googled up photobucket account I shamelessly plundered
http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd53/timski_01/?start=40

tubeshooter
February 22, 2010, 06:27 PM
Wow, that ladder sight looks really interesting!

I had a standard Skinner receiver sight recently added to my model 1894C, but I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I went ahead and got the front sight from Dr. Skinner since he says ~40% chance the factory bead won't work with his 1894 receiver and I'm generally more unlucky than lucky.

If it performs anything like the one on my 39A (and I have no reason to believe it wouldn't) I'm sure it will shoot just fine.


There are a number of options out there designed specifically for the 1894, personally I would probably forget about the Tech sights if it involved that much measuring and such... :D Hope you pick something you end up liking.

bhk
February 22, 2010, 08:20 PM
Actually, I have an XS sight on my Marlin and like it quite a bit. I bought a threaded aperture stem for it from Brownells and screwed a Skinner .1" aperture disk into it. Very accurate with the disk installed, very quick with it out. I really like the XS front sight.

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