Picked up an old school S&W 10-8


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bdb benzino
February 22, 2010, 06:18 PM
I have always wanted one of the older pinned and recessed S&W's, my father has some but I only have a newer 686+, which I love and a couple of Taurus snubbies, that I have also come to love.

I have been on the lookout for a nice revolver to fit the "old school" bill for a while, and today at my LGS I found a semi-worn, but not so fired 4" blued model 10-8 , It appeared to have been stored in a bad enviroment for the finish, but mechanicaly it is rock solid. I am going to have it reblued any way so not a big deal for me. :D
I only had time for around 40 rounds but it shot 125gr 38+p JHP well, and very accurate as I thought it would.
How do all you guys feel about the model 10 and do you enjoy yours?

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Zcarp2
February 22, 2010, 06:20 PM
Shoot a 10-5 after passing on a lot of them in shops. I prefer the pencil barrel to the heavier bull barrels. Light and easy to manage. Even the girls love these things.

W.E.G.
February 22, 2010, 06:22 PM
The Model 10.

Very near and dear to me.

When my day comes, I want to be buried with mine on my hip.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/DSCN3272smaller.jpg

Black Knight
February 22, 2010, 07:20 PM
I carried a 10-8 for two years as an armed security officer doing entrance security at a federal courthouse. It is a great revolver and more accurate than I am. I still have it and enjoy it on the range. If for some reason it were the only gun I could keep I would not feel out gunned with it. Glad I can keep more than one. Your 125gr. SJHP 38 Spec+P load is the same load we were require to carry. It is a very accurate load.

roaddog28
February 22, 2010, 07:35 PM
I have a model 10 4 inch. This is my home defense revolver. I have the revolver loaded with 158gr LSWCHP +Ps. A 4 inch model 10 will shoot POA with 158gr ammo. I shoot ragged holes at my range with mine using 158gr double action at 10yds. By far the revolver I shoot the best and I trust my life with it.

Enough said,
roaddog28

Bush Pilot
February 22, 2010, 08:56 PM
Have 2 Model 10 Smiths, one pencil barrel and one heavy barrel. These guns are probably the most fun to shoot out of all my Smiths.

bdb benzino
February 22, 2010, 09:10 PM
I must admit that the trigger on this 10-8 is probably the best of me or my fathers revolvers, incredibly smooth!! My dad's 66-1 is a close second for sweet triggers.
When firing all six rounds in a fairly fast manner, I found this pistol to be quick for follow uip shots and right off the bat I could keep all my shots some what close together.

Its odd, when I first started collecting pistols I was into hi-cap 9mm's and Glock 40's, now I don't even have a pistol with a capacity over 11. I seem to be moved by single stack semi-auto's and revolvers these days, and if its polymer in my pants its a Kahr!

7.62 Nato
February 22, 2010, 09:16 PM
I've got a 5" nickel plated 10-5 with Detroit Police Dept. on the backstrap. It shoots very good. When I get my mom to the range it's the only one she wants to shoot. She's in her 80s.

armoredman
February 22, 2010, 09:29 PM
I have a 10-8, my inheritance revolver from my stepfather. It will go to my son when I croak, too. It is very accurate and reliable, and like others said, if I was restricted to just it, with my preferreed Winchester 158gr LSWCHP, I wouldn't feel underarmed at all. I have leather and speedloaders around, just in case. :)


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/easydoesit.jpg

HexHead
February 22, 2010, 09:34 PM
I've got this 10-7...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/scat999999/misc/DSC_0003-1.jpg

It's accurate, very tame with 158 gr. LRN and a joy to shoot.

rainbowbob
February 22, 2010, 09:39 PM
I stopped by a local gun shop this afternoon to see if they had any old Smiths. The guy pulled out a nickel model 10-8 that had me drooling! It locked up tight, had a smooth trigger, and the finish was nearly flawless - you could barely see a turn line on the cylinder. Price is $369. I'm thinkin'...I'm thinkin'...

bdb benzino
February 22, 2010, 09:43 PM
Is the 10-8 the first year they put the bull barrel on?? Or was it offered both ways for a number of years?
From everyone's responses it seems that this model has a place with a lot of THR members.

Man I would have been all over that nickel one for $370, I paid a little less than $300 but mine is not flawless, but it is solid and lockup is sweet!

BCRider
February 22, 2010, 09:57 PM
Don't think for too long Rainbowbob. From the swap meet prices I saw two weekends ago at Munroe just up the road from you that's a darned fair price for one in great shape. The swap meet blued ones with some holster wear were tagged with higher prices than that by more than a little.

I got my own blued 6" Model 10 a few months back. Shoots nice and it's a joy to behold but I didn't have "the right" ammo for it. About 3 weeks ago I finally got set up for reloading and coincidentally tripped over a deal on a big box of .38 reloading supplies. About 3500 bullets, lots of Bullseye powder and 3300 primers. I got into reloading and shot my test batches of 148 HBWC's, 140gn DEWC and some 158gn truncated cone semi wad cutters. The loads for all are set now and I've made a few ice cream buckets full. The old girl shoots nice tight groups almost without serious effort on my part. Plans call for using it at my club's Speed Steel shoots this summer along with my Model 19.

My old Model 19 came with hogue grips and some really badly marked up wooden target grips. I've been carving down the old wood ones to suit my grip for the Model 10 and it's feeling really nice now. It's drying off it's third coat of stock oil just now but I'll see if I can mount them up and snap a picture of it for the Model 10 fraternity.

Stephen A. Camp
February 22, 2010, 10:07 PM
Hello. Count me in a long-time user of the Model 10:

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/my_personal_model_10.htm

Best.

jad0110
February 22, 2010, 10:08 PM
How do all you guys feel about the model 10 and do you enjoy yours?

Love 'em. I own a couple of Model 10 cousins, the adjustable sight Model 15 (one a 2", the other a 4"). Though I technically do not own a Model 10, I do own a pre-Model 10 5 screw, specifically a 6" Military & Police Transitional Model, made in or around 1947. As for refinishing, it would have to be in pretty rough shape for me to reblue, but that's just me. Got pictures?

Anyway, here's my pre-10. Group was shot at 7 yards, DA 2 hand hold slow fire using 148 grain wadcutters propelled by 3.2 grains of W231. Superb shooting gun, well worth the $300 I paid for it last month.


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Military%20and%20Police%20Transitional/DSC07051.jpg


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Military%20and%20Police%20Transitional/DSC06818.jpg

bdb benzino
February 22, 2010, 10:34 PM
I will work on picks tonight.

Thanks for all the replies!

rainbowbob
February 23, 2010, 01:44 AM
I should go make a deal on that nickel M 10-8 tomorrow...shouldn't I?

WardenWolf
February 23, 2010, 03:47 AM
Nice guns. My grandfather had a perfect condition S&W Model 10-5, complete with the original blue box, and it passed to my family when he died. We haven't fired it since then, but I've replaced the ancient junk bare lead hardball ammo in it with new Speer .38 SPL +P 125-grain Gold Dot Hollowpoints. I did discover a surprise in the blue box, though: along with the gun was a bag of CCI .38 shotshells. I can only venture a guess that he bought them as snake-shot. My parents use that for their bedside gun, although I otherwise don't really know what to do with it. All our other revolvers (with the exception of an old aluminum S&W Model 38 Airweight that can't even take +P) are .357, so it's kind of an oddball. It could easily be carried concealed, but I have a Makarov for that. There's just no defined purpose for it other than what they use it for.

BullRunBear
February 23, 2010, 07:13 AM
Picked up a model 10-8 4 inch heavy barrel at a gun show a couple of years ago, one of those service weapon trade-ins. Looks like crap but is mechanically solid. I love the thing and it's my bedside gun loaded with 125 gr +P ammo. That's probably more than needed for house distances and will explore a standard load at some point. I like the balance of the heavy barrel over the pencil style, but that's just personal preference. It came with some oversized rubber grips which I replaced with original style wooden grips. That made it more comfortable for my wife with her small hands.

I have a K-38 for "serious" target work but the model 10 is my favorite plinking centerfire. It's also the one I use when teaching newcomers the basics of centerfire handgun shooting.

BCRider: Congrats on the reloading find. Reloading adds to my enjoyment of the shooting hobby. With two 38 specials and five different 357 magnums it lets me shoot a lot more than I could with store bought ammo. Those 148 gr. wadcutters with a little Bullseye are inexpensive, accurate and just plain fun to shoot. And the brass from those target loads lasts a LONG time.

BTW, a member of our gun club shoots action pistol on the state and national levels. Although he uses fancy autos now, he started out with a model 10 and said that's where he learned the trigger control and other basics that help him now.

This may be a figment of my aging memory, but wasn't there a Model 10 Club thread on the forum at one time?

Jeff

madcratebuilder
February 23, 2010, 09:39 AM
I guess I'm just too old. I have never thought of a M10-8 as old school. That's damn near a new gun. This is old school.

late twenties 4th change target model.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/4thchange01.jpg

Same thing just older and a little fancier.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/MP02.jpg

This K38 just makes it into "old school" to me.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/k3804.jpg

SleazyRider
February 23, 2010, 09:40 AM
Do it, Rainbowbob, DO IT! It's only money.

The Bushmaster
February 23, 2010, 09:57 AM
Mod 10-5 2". Mod 10-9 4". Mod 10-7 4". Mod 19-5 2 1/2". Sorry...The 19 slipped in there.:D

No! I "hate" model 10s...:evil:

For general target shooting, self defence and just plain duribility/versitility (.38 Special and +P). Hands down, it's hard to beat the Mod 10.

OldCavSoldier
February 23, 2010, 11:26 AM
Don't own a M10.....yet! But in 1978 got a steal of a deal on its stainless cousin from a gunshop north of Ft Knox, an NIB M64 with 4-inch heavy barrel. 125 grain plated or jacketed or lead slugs pushed by 4.9 grains of Unique...enough authority if needed, and plenty of accuracy and fun all the time!

SleazyRider
February 23, 2010, 06:16 PM
That is about as fine a collection of revolvers as I've ever seen, Madcratebuilder. Beautiful. By chance, have you applied Renaissance wax or some similar treatment? The finish is exquisite.

Birdmang
February 23, 2010, 06:23 PM
Is a Model 10-5 +P rated?

bdb benzino
February 23, 2010, 06:59 PM
Here is a pic
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What do you guys think, for less than $300.
Did I do good?

Hondo 60
February 23, 2010, 07:23 PM
OK, I'll get into the braggin' too. Here's my 10-5s

rainbowbob
February 23, 2010, 08:32 PM
Me too!

I decided a guy can make a mad impulse buy every once in a while - and it's been a long while for me. So I went out today and bought that nickel 10-8. They were asking $350 + tax, so I offered them $320 + tax and they took it. With the tax it was...$350 - so I saved about $35 by making an offer. They were quick to take it, so naturally I thought "Why didn't I offer less?". But I'm happy with my near mint nickel specimen at that price.

I've never bought a gun from a store before - always been face to face from a private party. So I was somewhat chagrined by all the forms you gotta fill out. It seems sorta like de facto registration. Oh well.

Also, I won't be able to take possession until March 3rd because they have to hold it for 30 days before they can re-sell it. It's gonna be a long wait!

jad0110
February 23, 2010, 08:57 PM
Reloading adds to my enjoyment of the shooting hobby. With two 38 specials and five different 357 magnums it lets me shoot a lot more than I could with store bought ammo. Those 148 gr. wadcutters with a little Bullseye are inexpensive, accurate and just plain fun to shoot. And the brass from those target loads lasts a LONG time.

Don't you know it. And I'd love to find a total beater Model 10 (or similar) that could at least shoot wax bullets, if nothing else safely, for $100 or less. I've been wanting a dedicated wax bullet only gun so that I can setup in my garage (with eye and ear protection of course) and practice drawing and firing from the hip at close range targets.

Is a Model 10-5 +P rated?

Yes.

I decided a guy can make a mad impulse buy every once in a while - and it's been a long while for me. So I went out today and bought that nickel 10-8. They were asking $350 + tax, so I offered them $320 + tax and they took it. With the tax it was...$350 - so I saved about $35 by making an offer. They were quick to take it, so naturally I thought "Why didn't I offer less?". But I'm happy with my near mint nickel specimen at that price.

For a mint nickel gun, I'd say you did very well. I've had that same feeling though. I recently found a pinned & recessed S&W Model 66-1 2.5" for $450. I offered the dealer $430 cash and he accepted with no hesitation. Same thing happend last spring with a near mint 4" Model 15-3 priced at $329. I offered $309 and my offer was accepted almost before I got the words out of my mouth :o .

rainbowbob
February 23, 2010, 09:12 PM
Same thing happend last spring with a near mint 4" Model 15-3 priced at $329. I offered $309 and my offer was accepted almost before I got the words out of my mouth

Speaking of doing well...$309 for a near mint M 15-3? Wow! I paid $450 for mine. I kinda got took on that one at that price - but sometimes ya just have it!

jad0110
February 23, 2010, 09:27 PM
Quote:
Same thing happend last spring with a near mint 4" Model 15-3 priced at $329. I offered $309 and my offer was accepted almost before I got the words out of my mouth

Speaking of doing well...$309 for a near mint M 15-3? Wow! I paid $450 for mine. I kinda got took on that one at that price - but sometimes ya just have it!

You know, the way I look at it, if you really like the gun and you are okay with the price, then it wasn't a bad deal at all. Maybe not a great buy, but fair for you nonetheless.

And lately, $450 seems to be the going rate for Model 15s.

Here is that 15-3, made in '69. Shoots like a dream, as good as it looks:


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%2015%204%20inch%2038%20Special/DSC08107.jpg


http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%2015%204%20inch%2038%20Special/DSC08086.jpg

bdb benzino
February 23, 2010, 09:55 PM
The place where I got my model 10, had a model 15 minty for $500 though. A bit steep,but real pretty none the less!!

evan price
February 24, 2010, 04:47 AM
I started with Colt .357 revolvers, then moved into tactical tupperware. Why would anyone want 6 shots of .38 special when .357 was the same size???

Then one day as an impulse I picked up a mint 10-8 4" heavy barrel, looked like it hadn't been fired hardly at all, was a trade-in from a large batch from an armored car company. It was only $220. Grips were chewed up so I put a Pachmayr on it.

Geeeez, I hear people talk about S&W revolver triggers, now I know what they mean!

That 10-8 is now about my favorite range gun. I load a medium-weight Cowboy load with 158-gr lead SWC's and you can shoot it all day- it doesn't beat up the hand or the gun and your brass is right there, no crawling around looking. Accurate as the day is long.

Liked it so much now I am always on the lookout for inexpensive S&W revolvers, pre-lock of course, for my collection. Managed to find a few. The "K" frame is just a sweet shooter, about the perfect size for a .38 special, good for carry, bedside, self defense, plinking, and there are a metric buttload of them out there (still made today!) so parts are easy to find, and you're not wearing out a rare specimen.

Oh, and I still have a few Colts.

madcratebuilder
February 24, 2010, 08:29 AM
That is about as fine a collection of revolvers as I've ever seen, Madcratebuilder. Beautiful. By chance, have you applied Renaissance wax or some similar treatment? The finish is exquisite.
I use Eezox these days. Wipe on, let it dry for 24hrs then wipe off. You may notice some rust tint on your patch after the first two or three treatments, but after that the patch is spotless after treatment. I'm maintaining a fairly large collection (100+) and I'm really sold on Eezox as a rust preventive, solvent and lube. No oily film, no finger prints. I still oil and or grease before shooting.

robctwo
February 24, 2010, 09:19 AM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/robctwo/DSCN0632.jpg

Dad's old 10-6 with new Hogues

Eezox is great stuff. I've been carrying a can in my range bag for two years. At meets it is amazing how many times a good spray of it on a finicky semi-auto will fix things right up. Smells good s well.

SleazyRider
February 24, 2010, 10:59 AM
Thanks, guys, just called my local gun shop and they carry Eezox, so it's on my shopping list.

bdb benzino
February 24, 2010, 11:00 AM
I popped the side plate and did a detail cleaning last night, it appears to have never been opened before.
I cleaned it up nice and now know all the internals are solid and clean, I am really liking this revolver!
Thanks to this forums sticky, taking it apart was a snap. Thanks for all the info you guys put together here!

Husker_Fan
February 24, 2010, 11:02 AM
armoredman,
What holster is that in your pic? It looks perfect for a couple of 4 in k-frames I have.

aHFo3
February 24, 2010, 01:24 PM
Is a Model 10-5 +P rated?

Yes.


I realize +p rating is much newer than the model 10, but my 10-5 doesn't say +p on the barrel, although I shoot them occasionally.

Husker_Fan
February 24, 2010, 02:08 PM
S&W has said any steel gun made after 1953 (the year they started using model numbers) is safe with +p.

armoredman
February 24, 2010, 04:51 PM
Master Leather rig.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/smith10-8mastersholster.jpg

I also have true old school leather for it, an old Bianchi. Got the rig out of a used holster bin when I bought the gun for my stepdad, so he would have something to keep it in. It sat under the bed for years, collecting dust and disuse. Cleaned up rather nice, wouldn't you say?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PICT0272.jpg

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