7mm-08? or other 7mm?


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AMerexican
February 22, 2010, 09:53 PM
Ok so all the 7mm rounds are kinda new to me, Just wonderein' what ya'll thought about em in general, Specifics, and the 7mm-08 more-so than the others. Just wonderin' things along the lines of maximum effective range for target shootin', deer huntin', and varmints(possum, armadillo, coyote,etc.).
Thanks in advance all this new stuff is just makin' my head spin.

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joed
February 22, 2010, 09:59 PM
I don't own one but I like the 7mm-08. Wouldn't mind owning a gun chambered for it, just never found one.

The 7mm Express on the other hand seems like a good cartridge gone bad. It is under loaded to the point that I think the 7mm-08 is right on par with it.

Owned a 7mm Rem Mag and it too was a good round. Just to much kick for me and I already had a .300 Mag so I sold it.

NCdrummer
February 22, 2010, 10:01 PM
7mm bullets have high ballistic coefficients compared to many of their brethren, therefore they maintain velocity farther out there. I LOVE the Remington Short Action Ultra Mag in 7mm. My handloads spit a 140 grain Nosler out at 3200 fps from a 22 inch barrel! Impressive. And very accurate. The 7mm-08 is basically a necked-down .308. It's a great caliber for anything from coyotes to whitetail deer. I would recommend 120-140 grains bullets in the 7-08. In a quality rifle you'll be amazed at the lack of recoil, inherent accuracy, and retained energy at distance. Great choice.

TexasPatriot.308
February 22, 2010, 10:09 PM
I got a 7-08 and love it, unlike the other 7mms out there that will put a hurt on your shoulder and make you a bad shot, only the 08 and 7 x 57 Mauser are the only real sensible calibers for the lower 48s unlike you are a trend follower, shooting mag reader, or like to #### off your money on the magnums, short magnums and such, they are overkill unless you are shooting way further than most of us can see or need to be shooting in the first place.:evil:

jmr40
February 22, 2010, 10:12 PM
The 7-08 is ballistically about the same as the older 7mm Mauser. Just in a slightly shorter case. With the right bullets It will work on anything in North America, although far from the best choice for big bears.

a-sheepdog
February 22, 2010, 10:17 PM
The 7mm-08 is an outstanding cartridge as well as the 7mm Rem Mag, I have both. My 7mm-08 is very accurate as is my 7mag, which recoils more than the 08. I would feel comfortable taking deer size game out to 300-350 yards with the 7mm-08. The 7mag, I would stretch it out to 500-600 yards and that is only because I am not comfortable shooting further than that. The 7-08 is pretty much a good all around cartridge that will not make you flinch after a day at the range. Don't know if I answered your question, but hope this helps.

jimmyraythomason
February 22, 2010, 10:26 PM
The 7mm Rem.mag and the .280 rem(aka,7mm Rem. Express) are at the high end and the 7mm-08 and 7x57 Mauser are on the lower end of the range. I have them all and I USE the 7x57 the most. The old Mauser round is deadly out to 200+ yards on deer size game.

Ifishsum
February 22, 2010, 10:35 PM
7-08 is my favorite deer cartridge. I'd use it for elk if I had to, but don't want my '06s to get lonely ;)

The 7mm (.284 caliber) has a very efficient length/width ratio and offers some of the highest BCs you can find in a small arms projectile.

wlewisiii
February 22, 2010, 10:41 PM
7x57. Still the best ... :evil:

William

SSN Vet
February 22, 2010, 11:56 PM
Keep an eye on the rifling twist needed for the bullet weights you are considering.

140 gr. bullets seem to be the bread and butter weight for the 7mm-08, and you should be able to stabilize these with a 1 in 11 barrel.

Hornady makes super high BC 162 gr A-max, but if you want to throw it out there you'll need the faster twist barrel for that, as it is reported that 1 in 9 is needed for bullets over 140 gr.

9mmepiphany
February 23, 2010, 12:45 AM
the 7mm-08 is a standardized wildcat of what started as the 7mm-308 and is the ballistic equivalent of the 7x57mm (7mm Mauser)

the 7mm Express (.280 Rem) is the standardized wildcat of the 7mm-06

the .284 Win has the case capacity of the .30-06 in a cartridge length of the .308

i have a 7mm-08 chambered Steyr Pro Hunter...because they we're out of the one chamber in .260, which i think ins the perfect north american cartridge up to the size of the big bears.

the 7mm-8 is available chambered in more rifles and used to rule long range shooting prior to the 6.5mm (.260) chamberings

Arkansas Paul
February 23, 2010, 01:11 AM
My favorite is the .280 Rem but I would love to have a 7mm-08. I've about got my wife talked into going hunting with me, so I'm thinking about getting a 7mm-08 barrel for my CVA Optima Elite for her. It's performance isn't far behind the .280 Rem.

gspdave45
February 23, 2010, 01:14 AM
Great cartridge, my favorite. I own a Remington model 7 with an 18 1/2" barrel, most accurate rifle I own with nosler 140 grain ballistic tip handloads. I own a 7 mag, an 06, a .35 whelan and a 6.5x55 swede, but would take the 7-08 over all of them. Might use a partition for anything larger than whitetail.

Kentucky_Rifleman
February 23, 2010, 02:17 AM
I have an old Greek Mauser 95 in 7x57. With that particular rifle, I have to load lighter to stay under the 45,000 CUP pressure limit. The lighter load is offset by the 7mm's ballistic coefficient. I bought mine already sporterized with an aftermarket barrel, Timney Trigger, and Boyd's walnut stock. I picked up the gun, RCBS dies, and 200 rounds of factory new brass for 200.00 cash. It's incredibly pleasant to shoot, and holds a good pattern past 200 yards. At 100 yards it will hold minute of angle groups off a sandbag.

In the year and a half I've owned it, it has quickly become one of my favorite paper guns. For my range trips, I usually take it and my little Remington 722 in .222.

interlock
February 23, 2010, 06:26 AM
i have a 7mm08 and it is a great round. it fires 145gr gr speer spitzers at 2940 fps 2779ft lb when zeroed at 100 yards it drops a little over 2.5 inches and retains 2120 ft lb. i have shot big red stags with this load. it is very deadly. i generally use it with either 120gr prohunters or 130 gr speer spitzers. i would say that this round is suitable for just about everythinkg you will find in america, except them big bears (however i am saying this from the comfort of my front room in Lincolnshire England).

I load from sized down .308 brass which is cheap and plentiful, just run it through my press in a full length die.

as for maximum ranges i suppose the round is good for just about what most other centrefire rounds are. Depends on how good a shot you are. i shoot deer upto about 250 yards. i dont put that limit on because of the rounds limitations but because of mine.

interlock

earlthegoat2
February 23, 2010, 06:35 AM
The 7mm-08 is getting lots of press these days. It is a good round to be sure but I see no reason to get one when the 7x57 exists. Unfortunately this chambering has been dropped from most manufacturers rifle lineup making the conspiracy theorist in me believe the 7mm-08 only exists to be a ballistic equivalent of the 7x57 and its development spurred on by rifle manufacturers to create a market to sell more rifles. It is working with the short magnums.

I mean it is the American way, right. When in doubt, "invent" a new cartridge.

cal74
February 23, 2010, 11:44 AM
I like it enough to own two different rifles chambered in it, both light weight.

Personally I don't think a 7mm Rem mag kicks all that much, but the 7mm-08 does kick less and will do most anything you ask of it.

rangerruck
February 23, 2010, 11:46 AM
If you don't find something listed in the above cals that you like, you can allways look at the tried and true 270, which is 6.8, and even better the 270 wsm, which gets another 2 to 300 fps, with a 270 bullet. Both are mild recoilers. But I do like all the 7's mentioned above, especially the 280.

rangerruck
February 23, 2010, 11:47 AM
come to think of it, I think ruger still does a single shot in 7 x57...

Tang419
February 23, 2010, 03:26 PM
I'm a magnum maniac and recoil junky, but the 7mm-08 is one of my favorites. Great little cartridge. Accurate, light on the shoulder even in light weights guns, and efficient with powder. A 140gr Gameking is a very accurate load, running 2600 in my nephews Rem Model 7.


Ruger does offer the No. 1 International in 7x57 http://www.ruger.com/products/no1International/models.html

DoubleTapDrew
February 23, 2010, 04:08 PM
My deer gun is a model 700 in 7mm-08 and it's a great rig. Accurate, flat shooting, puts them down if I do my part, and very light.

Kentucky_Rifleman
February 23, 2010, 09:20 PM
I've been looking for a Remington 700 Classic chambered in 7x57 for years. The ones I find are always unfired, and the first thing I'll do is shoot it, so I keep holding out for a used one :P I'd also love to get my hands on the same rifle in both 8x57 and 35 Whelan. I'm just saving my pennies :)

Arthur

Uncle Mike
February 23, 2010, 09:22 PM
I have a Husqvarna Mauser in 8X57 for sale!

I think all of America would jump on a Remington CDL in 7X57! I would.

homers
February 23, 2010, 09:45 PM
Love my Ruger M77 in 7x57. Great cartridge, no need for any other non magnum 7mm.

Maverick223
February 23, 2010, 09:56 PM
I like the 7mm-08, but I like the .280Rem. better. The bullet and case capacity just seem near perfect to me. FWIW, I like the 6.5mm bullets in a .308 case size a little better, but and there are few rifles chambered for the .260Rem. For whitetail deer and such the 7mm-08 is about as good as it gets, and can reach out at least 300yds or more when properly loaded.

:)

Uncle Mike
February 23, 2010, 09:58 PM
6.5mmWSM! There!

rangerruck
February 24, 2010, 01:20 AM
Uncle Mike; there is one allready close to that; the 270wsm- me likey!!

Uncle Mike
February 24, 2010, 01:31 AM
Yeah...me too! What will they come up with next?!?!?!

Maverick223
February 24, 2010, 01:32 AM
...there is one allready close to [6.5mmWSM]; the 270wsm- me likey!!Been there, done that, won't be doin' it again. :barf:

Uncle Mike
February 24, 2010, 01:50 AM
Mav....you no like um .270WSM?

Maverick223
February 24, 2010, 02:07 AM
Mav....you no like um .270WSM?Nope, had one, sold it...was a nice rifle (Browning A-bolt II) but the cartridge just didn't float my boat. It really doesn't offer anything that the .30-06 couldn't (even trajectory due to poor BCs), save for burning more powder, having more recoil, and with expensive and somewhat difficult to find loaded ammo. The slightly shorter action, and slightly lighter weight (only a few ounces) was negligible because the straight walled short cartridge seemed to catch a little (but not really bind) when feeding making it slower to operate. I think I'll be stickin' with conventional magnums, or more than likely non-magnum cartridges for most stuff.

:)

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