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rozziboy18
February 24, 2010, 01:07 AM
its time to move into a new scope, i have a 700.00 budget and would like to get somthing new, have any of you guys used millet scopes and are they any good

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WNTFW
February 24, 2010, 01:33 AM
One of my shooting buddies just got one & loves it. I think he spent 400.

Uncle Mike
February 24, 2010, 01:47 AM
Millet quality seems to change from time to time, I have several Millet scopes from the 6-25X56 to the 1-4X25 and have enjoyed them with no problems.
We sell them and have had a really good bit of luck with them so far, with only a few returned for factory problems.

However, our camo dipping vendor will absolutely not dip a Millet scope, as he says every Millet scope he ever has dipped has fogged internally.

For $700 you can do somewhat better as to craftsmanship. Maybe not get all the 'bells and whistles' as you would on a Millet, but better quality and a scope that will allow you to shoot long range just the same.

Look at the Weaver line, Burris, Leupold, Sightron.

C-grunt
February 24, 2010, 01:55 AM
Hoplite Inc in the Shotgun News has Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14x40 LR/T with the standard crosshairs for $629. Handled one today at Cabellas and was very impressed.

ms6852
February 24, 2010, 03:44 AM
Check out the vortex viper riflescopes. In your budget you will find some great optics in this brand and most other brand as well. I love Sightron as well.

Bobarino
February 24, 2010, 04:23 AM
need more info. what caliber? what gun? what's it's purpose? what are your goals? going to be hiking and hunting with it? benchrest only? what magnification level do you want? at what range will you be shooting?

for my long range target rifle project i went with the Millett LRS-1 (with mil/mil) like Uncle Mike. it's huge, it works wonderfully, and it didn't break the bank. i'd also check out the Bushnell Elite series.

David Sours
February 24, 2010, 10:55 AM
I would look at Leupold, Bushnell Eliete 4200 Series or Zeiss Conquest. I have a Leupold Vari-X III 4.5x14 that is very nice. Recently purchased a Bushnell 4200 Eliete 6x24x50 w/30mm tube and Mil-Dot reticle. It is a very nice scope for the money. It is a little lacking in clarity at the high end, wonderful for hunting ground hogs or deer but not quite the clarity I would like for punching paper at 200yds and beyond, but it did cost me less the $700.00. The Bushnell does a great job at gathering light, overall I am very pleased with the scope and would buy it again. I will say one more thing about the Bushnell, mine has the tactical turrets and recently we were shooting at 500yds, yesterday went back to the range and ran the elevation back to the zero mark fired three shots and they were right there. I am really confident now that the scope is holding zero after running the elevation up and down for different yardages.

David

X-Rap
February 24, 2010, 11:17 AM
I know you said you wanted new but if you shop around you can find a good used Leupold for 2-3 hundred less than a new one and still have their solid warranty behind the scope.
I would do that any day rather than get a lot of extra fluff on an inferior scope.

Robert
February 24, 2010, 11:22 AM
How long is long range?

rangerruck
February 24, 2010, 11:27 AM
I agree with every scope mentioned here thus far; with a lean towards two; vortex and Weaver. Take a hard look at Weaver's line...

baldeagle93
February 24, 2010, 11:29 AM
Hoplite Inc in the Shotgun News has Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14x40 LR/T with the standard crosshairs for $629. Handled one today at Cabellas and was very impressed.

With the counterfeit Leupold's out there I would be careful with that purchase. Not completely challenging your post C-Grunt, but a Mark 4 for that price...probably not. I would not purchase a Leupold Mark 4 if I couldn't verify it right now...here's the sight, http://www.leupold.com/tactical/resources/counterfeit-warning/

More info needed on your pick, what flavor bullet, rifle and define "long range." 300 yards is long range to some, 1,000 yards for others.

stsimons
February 24, 2010, 11:33 AM
The Vortex Vipers are good, also check out the Super Snipers on SWFA... they compare with some really high end scopes for about 1/3 the price.

Geno
February 24, 2010, 11:36 AM
I have a Millet 6-24 X 44 AO. The lens are very clear from 6X through about 18X. Thereafter, it loses clarity. The AO is odd. At 100 yards, I have to adjust it to about 160ish yards to focus. That isn't right. The tracking is flawless, as is "run-out". Once I set my zero, I can make all the changes I wish and it holds a true zero. Sorry, I can't recall what it cost. Would I recommend this scope for someone who wanted to use it for target?! No. For me, it will be great for varmint where I will seldom have to exceed 12X.

Geno

baldeagle93
February 24, 2010, 11:58 AM
Hoplite Inc in the Shotgun News has Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14x40 LR/T with the standard crosshairs for $629. Handled one today at Cabellas and was very impressed.

With the counterfeit Leupold's out there I would be careful with that purchase. Not completely challenging your post C-Grunt, but a Mark 4 for that price...probably not. I would not purchase a Leupold Mark 4 if I couldn't verify it right now...here's the sight, http://www.leupold.com/tactical/resources/counterfeit-warning/

More info needed on your pick, what flavor bullet, rifle and define "long range." 300 yards is long range to some, 1,000 yards for others.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
February 24, 2010, 11:59 AM
On that budget, do not even consider a Millett.

On that budget, buying new, one of these is probably your best bet:

1. http://swfa.com/Sightron-6-24x50-SIII-30mm-Riflescope-P9150.aspx

2. http://swfa.com/Sightron-8-32x56-SIII-30mm-Riflescope-P45299.aspx

3. http://swfa.com/Leupold-30x40-FX-3-Silhouette-Riflescope-P12753.aspx


I particularly like #2 as a long-range choice. Cannot say enough good about Sightron. Funny name...serious scope.

Maverick223
February 24, 2010, 12:30 PM
Without a doubt, the Vortex Viper PST. If you can squeeze an additional $100.00+ out I would suggest going with the FFP version for additional versatility.

:)

Zerodefect
February 24, 2010, 12:41 PM
What do you guys think of Trijicon Scopes? (Not the Acog) Or Nightforce scopes?

Maverick223
February 24, 2010, 12:47 PM
What do you guys think of Trijicon Scopes? (Not the Acog) Or Nightforce scopes?I'm not a big fan of the Accupoint because I think they are a little overpriced, but they are nice scopes. Nightforce is great, and extremely well built, but glass isn't great (but not bad, especially compared to Accupoint) and rather expensive, especially for FFP versions. If you have the cash for a FFP NF I would suggest a Premier Reticles Heritage. For SFP they are a decent deal, but IOR Valdada and even Zeiss Conquest deserves a strong look.

:)

Geno
February 25, 2010, 09:09 AM
What do you guys think of Trijicon Scopes? (Not the Acog) Or Nightforce scopes?

I have looked through the Trijicon scopes and was not impressed...at all. Being from Michigan, I hate to say a Michigan company's product is not worth money, but I seek out point-of-rationality (PoR: getting the most product for the least expenditure). Trijicon ain't PoR.

I do have a Nightforce NXS 5.5-22. Lest anyone think I'm biased in favor of it because I own it, I see one massive weakness (for me). The closest parallax adjustment is 50 yards. Does that matter in long-range shooting, no. I'm just saying it isn't perfect for me, because I do a lot of shooting at 30 yards at the range for initial zero. Also, with the side-adjust Nightforces, you have to adjust the parallax slowly. There is precious little wiggle-room with the NXS in which space of adjustment you are out-of-focus or in-focus.

I purchased the Nightforce because it is rugged, has precise repeatability in all adjustments, presents zero run-out, and zero adjustment lag. In that sense, the Nightforce has thus far been pretty durned good! I have used it across all 4 of my "precision-oriented" rifles, and it seems to be worth what I paid: $1,600ish. If you go with a Nightforce, you have to use a picatinny rail. In terms of the Nightforce's glass, it is no better than a nice Leupold Vari-X III or other equal Leupold. If you do get the Nightforce, I strongly suggest the NP-R1 reticle. The MOA marking are used at 22X, and measure 1 MOA vertical, and 2 MOA horizontal.

JMHO,

Geno

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