What is the most expensive POS you ever bought?


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Oldnoob
February 24, 2010, 12:45 PM
As the title said, I own few cheap guns and so far I have great lucks with them. I kind of want to know what you guys experience with the high end crap. :cool:

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usp9
February 24, 2010, 12:59 PM
CZ82 that I bought from a local dealer to "throw him a bone" so to speak for being an overall good guy. The gun was total crap. The gun was returned to the wholesale dealer but the gun that he replaced it with with was just as bad.

EddieNFL
February 24, 2010, 01:24 PM
Kimber Tactical Custom II

MyRoadIsWider
February 24, 2010, 01:54 PM
Kimber Tactical Custom II

Seriously? :what: What was wrong with it?! But that's Kimber.....

EddieNFL
February 24, 2010, 02:29 PM
Wouldn't feed. After talking with Kimber I had zero faith in their ability/desire to repair. Local smith re-cut the lugs, removed the sharp edges from the extractor and installed a lighter extractor spring. Worked great after that. Sold it and moved on.

Isher
February 24, 2010, 03:12 PM
Ummm -

I think that would have been my first wife.

Firearms are a separate category.

isher

MMCSRET
February 24, 2010, 03:20 PM
I actually paid good money for a General Motors vehicle, Once and Once only!!!!!!!!!

rmfnla
February 24, 2010, 03:37 PM
AMT .22 Lightning.

SS Ruger clone w/ bull barrel, Pachmyer grips and Millet sights; looked great and accurate as all get-out, but mis-fired and mis-fed no matter what I tried.

Finally dumped it for a real Ruger and never looked back.

Motodeficient
February 24, 2010, 03:44 PM
Century WASR AK-47

Friendly, Don't Fire!
February 24, 2010, 03:45 PM
.25 Automatic - Seecamp - more like .25 JAM-O-MATIC!:cuss:

SlamFire1
February 24, 2010, 04:27 PM
This Colt Combat Elite.
I bought this new and it cost $450.00, back in the day when a dollar was worth about 25 cents. (Now it is worth even less)

Burrs on the firing pin hole caused failures to feed. I was able to fix that. Then the frame was peening its self out around 3000 rounds. When the front sight fell out, I sent the thing back to Colt. They installed the front sight and replaced the frame. But they did not fix the early unlock problem and the new frame was getting peened and Colt did not extend my warranty. The warranty would have ended before the new frame peened out.

Instead to sending it back to Colt, I sent it off to Wilson Combat. I put about $700 more into the pistol, had them put a match barrel, beavertail, Bomars, their front sight (which won’t fall out), and more work.

I had to wait two years, but the smiths at Wilson Combat really know what they are doing and now I have a very nice M1911.

Colt should not have shoveled expensive garbage out, but they sure did.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/DSCN0747ColtCombatreduced.jpg

This barrel came off a factory Colt Target Master

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/ColtTrademarkonbarrelDSCN2796.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/SlamFire/Pistols%20various/BestringinbarrelDSCN2815.jpg

See the ring ahead of the chamber? That is the way it came from Colt. Colt ringed the barrel in machining the locking lugs.

SgtSchroeder27
February 24, 2010, 05:51 PM
Sig Mosquito. Always FTE even with mini-mags

ronto
February 24, 2010, 06:00 PM
With the exception of my ex-wife...the Taurus PT-22...can't make it through an 8-round mag without at least one screw up.

Ben86
February 24, 2010, 06:03 PM
Century WASR AK-47

Really? Do tell, I am seriously thinking about buying one.

I haven't bought a total POS yet. Although my Taurus Tracker in .22 is beginning to annoy. It can hardly get through 100 rounds without binding. Then again maybe .22 revolvers are just like that.

NMGonzo
February 24, 2010, 06:03 PM
My first wedding ring.

barnett
February 24, 2010, 06:21 PM
Beretta 92FS

9mmepiphany
February 24, 2010, 06:29 PM
Browning Hi-Power

i've bought 3 of them, i couldn't believe that a gun with such a well respected reputation would shoot so badly

Nick5182
February 24, 2010, 06:30 PM
I'm not a Taurus hater or basher, but from what I understand it's hit or miss with their products. I bought a stainless pt1911 and I couldn't hold better than a 12" group at 7 yards. It also had feeding and extracting problems. I guess I got the "miss" because my dad has a stainless pt1911 that runs great and is a very accurate pistol. Firing his pt1911 was the reason I bought one. I ended up trading it straight up to the dealer I bought it from for a NIB EAA Witness Elite Match .45

The Lone Haranguer
February 24, 2010, 07:30 PM
SIG-Sauer Revolution Carry 1911. It was $949, the sales tax bringing it up to over a grand. It went exactly one round (the one in the chamber) before its first malfunction, broke an extractor and shed firing pin safety parts on the range floor, mixed in with the brass and never to be seen again. SIG did repair it promptly and finally replace it (to their credit), but then the replacement broke.

kwelz
February 24, 2010, 09:43 PM
Kimber

jad0110
February 24, 2010, 09:49 PM
What is the most expensive POS you ever bought?

A $300 Taurus Model 94 in 22LR. They either work good or they suck. Guess which I bought. Cylinder binding, lead spitting, lumpy triggered !@#$ :p .

---

In '98 I bought a '95 Chevy Silverado C1500 w/ the 350. Pretty truck, silver with a dark metallic blue mid section. I later learned that the last guy who owned it pulled a 30'+ horse trailer with it (I'm guessing at least double the truck's tow rating). Guess how long the tranny lasted? Yup, 2 weeks after the warranty expired :banghead: . Great truck otherwise.

Ky Larry
February 24, 2010, 10:04 PM
Taurus PT-92 9mm. Didn't even make it thru the first mag. The slide locked up and the rear sights fell off. My first and last Taurus.

gamike
February 25, 2010, 05:30 AM
mine was a vulcan --94 a copy of the mp5 it and the company backing it were total crap. $1200 for a lesson learned

Hammerhead6814
February 25, 2010, 01:04 PM
What this thread tells me is that no matter what you pay, no matter who made it, there's a chance you'll get the one bad sample of a design.

This thread has included a CZ82, Beretta 92FS, and a Browning Hi-Power. I've shot all of them, and they were great to me. No FTE or failure to feed. I could usually hit something as far as 25 yards out with each. Sometimes though, it will happen to a gun. Sometimes it's because of a slight mistake that wasn't caught on the assembly line, other times its because of a small user error that turned into a large one.

But to the guy who said the CZ82 was crap, what on earth went wrong? Your the first guy in 1,000,000 positive reviews to say anything negative.

EDIT: To bring this all the way back to the topic though, my 1999 Pontiac Grand Am. NEVER AGAIN!

Dain Bramage
February 25, 2010, 01:26 PM
Jad, I wouldn't say that pickup was a POS, just abused.

Jonah71
February 25, 2010, 01:29 PM
I love my Taurus 24/7 PT Pro Compact 9mm. Extremely reliable and very accurate for a Compact. But have talked with 2 owners of the same gun that have had nothing but problems with them.

usp9
February 25, 2010, 02:35 PM
But to the guy who said the CZ82 was crap, what on earth went wrong? Your the first guy in 1,000,000 positive reviews to say anything negative.

I'm not the first, but...

The first gun showed up missing parts. Sent it back to be replaced.

The second gun had all it's parts, that is until I shot it. Then the slide release spring flies off to Oz, a fairly common problem with the 82 but not the 83. I fixed it with a '83 spring, (not easy to do).

Next the sear went south allowing the hammer to follow the slide.

The mag release button was worn to a frazzle.

The gun gave me hammer bite.

I tried to like it but the gun was on it's last legs.

It was still pretty accurate, and it fed OK from what I remember, but there was enough I didn't like to overshadow what was good.

Most people love this gun, but they haven't been trouble free for everybody.

hillbillydelux
February 25, 2010, 02:54 PM
Stainless ruger mini-14. Would feed anything and never jamed but would be lucky to keep 5 shots inside 6 inches at 100 yds. Actually that was probably my best group with that gun!! And people say the AK is inaccurate.

jad0110
February 25, 2010, 05:23 PM
Jad, I wouldn't say that pickup was a POS, just abused.

Oh I agree, but if I had known at the time, I might have either negotiated a little harder or passed on it. It was a dependable truck other than that, and the A/C compressor going at 110k.

Same thing with my 2" S&W Model 15. I bought it (used) without noticing it had an expanded chamber. I figure the previous owner either had a reloading brain fart and shot off a double charge, or he was a dope hotrodding .38s to .357 power levels. Not the guns fault, but I like the truck I might have negotiated a much lower price or passed on it had I noticed the problem at time of purchase.

stchman
February 25, 2010, 05:29 PM
While not a really expensive gun the KelTec P11 is kind of junky IMO. The folks at KelTec need to really do a better job in the fit and finish department.

As far as WASR 10/63 rifles, I have one and it works pretty darn good.

Ken451
February 25, 2010, 07:51 PM
Browning Hi-Power

i've bought 3 of them, i couldn't believe that a gun with such a well respected reputation would shoot so badly
+1

I had two of them ("Practical" models). The only junk guns I've ever bought.

Omaney
February 25, 2010, 08:41 PM
Kahr MK9. The most undependable pistol I have ever head the displeasure to own.

Publius1688
February 25, 2010, 10:03 PM
Not really an expensive pistol at all, but the Walther P22 was an utter disappointment.

Erik M
February 26, 2010, 06:14 PM
From the amount of brand bashing and off topic posts I guess 'pos' is subjective and in the eye of the beholder. Thankfully I have never bought a gun that was a POS. Looks like alot of people in this thread need to learn how to spot lemons before they throw thier money away.

usp9
February 26, 2010, 06:55 PM
Looks like alot of people in this thread need to learn how to spot lemons before they throw thier money away.

Harder to do when buying one from afar. Then, you take some chances.

wlewisiii
February 26, 2010, 07:16 PM
I once bought a Lorcin .22 automatic that was pretty bad. Of course, that was to be expected given the price. I may just have to buy a HiPoint C-9 one of these days. :)

William

EddieNFL
February 26, 2010, 08:16 PM
From the amount of brand bashing and off topic posts I guess 'pos' is subjective and in the eye of the beholder. Thankfully I have never bought a gun that was a POS. Looks like alot of people in this thread need to learn how to spot lemons before they throw thier money away.
Touched a nerve?

Not always possible to test drive a new gun.

I agree, POS is in the eye of the beholder. You may accept flaws I cannot live with.

wow6599
February 26, 2010, 08:25 PM
Another vote for the Walther P22.

m0mof7
February 26, 2010, 10:20 PM
Let me guess ... 4L60E tranny ... and you had to have all of the internal shift solenoids replaced. Would actually be very common for that year. I may be new to "owning" a revolver ... but am an ASE certified parts specialist. Chevy's are the easiest.

shadowalker
February 26, 2010, 10:28 PM
Haven't bought any POS firearms, inherited a POS imported SG though.

Brien Crotty
February 26, 2010, 11:10 PM
Kimber Classic Target Stainless. Returned to Kimber three times for failure to feed years ago. Tried every brand of mag and ammo conceivable. Every time it came back from Kimber, first magazine through it resulted in failures to feed. Threw it in the safe and tried to forget about that POS for years. Hearing that Kimber's customer service had improved, called them last week. Terrible experience. The couldn't find their records from their failed repairs years ago, and rather than standing up and honoring their "warranty" they simply suggested I go out and buy replacement parts for it myself to see if I could fix it. If none of that work, I could pay (again) to send it back to them (undoubtedly for another wasted effort). Not happening. It's a boat anchor, and I've learned my lesson about Kimber.

Brien

m2steven
February 26, 2010, 11:44 PM
Kimber used to have such a sterling reputation for great firearms and in the past few years they really are giving Taurus a run for their money. It's so sad when new management just views a company as a vehicle through which to receive bonuses until they've completely destroyed it.

I have paid 400+ bucks for a Judge which started coming unscrewed after a dozen shotgun shells and about 20 45 LC. Parts just started coming off and out of it. Granted, Taurus fixed it free of charge and picked up the postage and now it's a great firearm.

Kimber and a few other companies are having big problems with extractors and any unsold units with said extractors should be recalled and fitted with "DIFFERENT" ones from some other supplier before they ruin themselves.

xx7grant7x
February 27, 2010, 12:53 AM
TGI romanian Psl 7.62x54R bought it for semi auto large caliber cheap ammo fun, and it liked to split case and blow the rims off due to bad headspace...

Erik M
February 27, 2010, 04:48 AM
Let me guess ... 4L60E tranny ... and you had to have all of the internal shift solenoids replaced. Would actually be very common for that year. I may be new to "owning" a revolver ... but am an ASE certified parts specialist. Chevy's are the easiest.
welcome to the world of my WS6.

buttrap
February 27, 2010, 05:56 AM
A chev 4x4 truck....

Peter M. Eick
February 27, 2010, 07:13 AM
I agree with Buttrap. My 3 Chevy S10 blazers. You would think after the first two, I would have learned but no, I got the 3rd. None of them would go more then 7 years with out extensive repairs and by the time they hit a dozen years I would have to work on them every weekend so i got rid of them. Lesson learned.

Now back to guns.

My worst experiences were with the Taurus PT92 (if I remember the model correctly). Poorly made, would not feed, took it back the next day to the gun dealer. It was bad.

2nd worst would be the Colt Gov 380. Love the gun, mine is just peening itself apart due to poor execution and soft steel. Very discouraging.

Finally, and I know this would surprise a lot of folks, it is my Glock G20. The gun worked great, absolutely reliable, accurate, but the plastic flexy frame thing would flex in my hand and change my grip with every shot. I had to sell the thing because I could not deal with the plastic frame. I will give the gun its due though, it was reliable, accurate and easy to carry. To bad it was plastic.

Prion
February 27, 2010, 07:21 AM
The gun was total crap

I honestly think this might be the first negative CZ comment I've ever read here on 'The High on CZ Road'.

Jonah71
February 27, 2010, 08:44 AM
Maybe it's a good thing I bought an older model 2003 Kimber.....or should I have gone even older? To see any company go down hill is sad, but I've even heard the same grumblings about S & W. (although I don't see it) My knowledge of handguns is so limited, for years if it wasn't S&W, Colt, or Ruger (revolver) I'd never heard of it. And since I've only started replacing all the guns I sold in the early to mid 80's and haven't got screwed too badly (I hope).....I feel lucky. Thank you Al Gore for inventing the internet! lol It really has helped me when it comes to checking prices that most of the time I'm clueless about. And I always seem to be able to get a very wide range of opinions at THR, most of which are not in the totally clueless category.

Brien Crotty
February 27, 2010, 08:58 AM
Maybe it's a good thing I bought an older model 2003 Kimber.....or should I have gone even older? To see any company go down hill is sad, but I've even heard the same grumblings about S & W. (although I don't see it) My knowledge of handguns is so limited, for years if it wasn't S&W, Colt, or Ruger (revolver) I'd never heard of it. And since I've only started replacing all the guns I sold in the early to mid 80's and haven't got screwed too badly (I hope).....I feel lucky. Thank you Al Gore for inventing the internet! lol It really has helped me when it comes to checking prices that most of the time I'm clueless about. And I always seem to be able to get a very wide range of opinions at THR, most of which are not in the totally clueless category.
My POS Kimber was from 1998, when they were hailed as the best by many. Their customer service (and, based on my statistical sample of one boat anchor), their guns, were horrible then, and have only gotten worse. I was astonished at their response this time around. They suggested trying a new recoil spring, but didn't even volunteer to send me one, instead telling me to go out and shop for one on my own, pay for it, test it, etc. Quite a useful warranty they have...

At least I know what not to do again. Live and learn. It just always makes me shake my head to see such poor service from a company that, by design, serves a limited market, particularly a limited market that is both quality-oriented, and vocal. Smooth move, Kimber.

Brien

tprice
February 27, 2010, 09:45 AM
SIG Sauer P250c 9mm. Bought it at a local gun shop, went into their range, fired exactly 27 rounds before it just "stopped," the DA trigger would push the hammer back but not let it drop. Brought the gun back to the counter, owner disassembled the gun, and we both heard a "ping" as a metal chunk fell out of it -- the rear flange of the fire control frame had broken off. So much for MIM!

Thankfully, the owner just did a swap for another P250, and 1000 rounds later it still works okay. Though the magazines are another story...

Occam's Razor
February 27, 2010, 09:57 AM
An early production S&W 4006. IF it managed to move a round from the magazine to the chamber it shot about 4" left of center at 25 yards.

memphisjim
February 27, 2010, 10:00 AM
ive never personally got a bad gun but know a guy who has Got a s&w m&p in 40cal
250 rounds through the thing ant the rifling is completely smooth on about 25% of the barrel and the muzzle crown it beat way up

bhhacker
February 27, 2010, 10:31 AM
I dont understand some of the people that buy a gun, find out it has problems, then never even try another model and refuse to buy anything from that vendor again. In my opinion that almost borders on ignorance. The world is an imperfect place, and people are human. Errors can be made. When you churn out a million guns, you are going to have a small percentage of them bad. I care more about what happens after you find that. Customer service and a chance for repair at least, but thats just me. One bad gun isnt going to turn me away from a company forever.

KevininPa
February 27, 2010, 10:32 AM
"I'm not a Taurus hater or basher, but from what I understand it's hit or miss with their products. I bought a stainless pt1911 and I couldn't hold better than a 12" group at 7 yards. It also had feeding and extracting problems. I guess I got the "miss" because my dad has a stainless pt1911 that runs great and is a very accurate pistol. Firing his pt1911 was the reason I bought one. I ended up trading it straight up to the dealer I bought it from for a NIB EAA Witness Elite Match .45"


Almost the same story here. Bought a blued 605 revolver for the wife. Flawless. Got a stainless one for myself. It took two "vacations" in Miami and replaced something else myself. Seems to work now but I'm leery of it. Thinking of dumping it at a low price with full disclosure of its history. Set the money aside for a SP101.

The Filthy Spitoon
February 27, 2010, 11:36 AM
Coonan .357

Al LaVodka
February 27, 2010, 11:48 AM
My Taurus 44 Tracker needed multiple repairs out of the box, including disassembly, replacement parts, and STILL the cylinder locks up!

I don't know how many hundreds or days (off) of work it took me to get it and try to repair it in the first place.

Al

Brien Crotty
February 27, 2010, 11:58 AM
I dont understand some of the people that buy a gun, find out it has problems, then never even try another model and refuse to buy anything from that vendor again. In my opinion that almost borders on ignorance. The world is an imperfect place, and people are human. Errors can be made. When you churn out a million guns, you are going to have a small percentage of them bad. I care more about what happens after you find that. Customer service and a chance for repair at least, but thats just me. One bad gun isnt going to turn me away from a company forever.
I'm in full agreement, provided the company makes the first one right. Kimber demonstrated over and over a complete unwillingness to do that. I can CERTAINLY understand that every once in a while a bad one slips through and needs to be fixed. But after three failed attempts to fix a gun that was over $1,000, followed by a complete lack of even concern about trying to make it right, I think it's fair to chalk that one up to experience and not make the same bad wager again...

Brien

usmccpl
February 27, 2010, 01:50 PM
A mod 29 from Smith and Wesson's "Performance Center". Was around 1200 bucks dumped into it and shooting from a Ransom Rest its best group was 12 inches at 10 feet.

mesinge2
February 27, 2010, 02:05 PM
A $300 Taurus Model 94 in 22LR. They either work good or they suck. Guess which I bought. Cylinder binding, lead spitting, lumpy triggered !@#$

Me too, but I paid almost $400, heaviest spongey trigger I have ever felt.

Full Metal Jacket
February 27, 2010, 02:55 PM
XD45 Midsize. jammed constantly and horribly inaccurate. :barf:

searcher451
February 27, 2010, 05:24 PM
Easy call: Beretta Tomcat with Crimson Trace laser grips. At least the laser worked well enough. The Tomcat was a steaming pile of leftovers -- it was a sorry day, indeed, when I first pulled the trigger on that gun. Of course, the gun didn't allow me to pull the trigger too often after that: It crapped out 66 rounds later.

kayaknjames
February 27, 2010, 05:31 PM
Mini 14 I have 2. One did ok right out of the box (thicker barrel) The other one I sent off to have accurized, and spent more than the price of the gun, and still not very accurate. Great reliable guns, always ready to go. Just don't count on much as far a your minute of angle.

Franco
February 27, 2010, 09:00 PM
Cheap high capacity clips for my Bushmaster AR-15. Spend the money for the better clips. These chinese sheet metal pieces of crap cause failures every 10-15 rounds. I thought it was the gun's fault until I borrowed better clips from a guy at the range. If the zombies come, I'm F'd unless I pull out my trusty 30-30 Win 94!

I see a lot of Taurus references on this POS list. I'm not an official Taurus basher (never owned one) but I can say that every gun shop owner I've asked has told me that they are the #1 problem gun with respect to customer complaints. My Sigs and S&Ws have been worth every penny.

Whitman31
February 27, 2010, 09:18 PM
Dan Wesson Bobtail 10mm ($900+). It was just a lemon that never should have left the factory. On the plus side, DW was extremely responsive in getting it in perfect working condition. I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them again.

jad0110
February 28, 2010, 10:53 AM
Let me guess ... 4L60E tranny ... and you had to have all of the internal shift solenoids replaced.

Yes on the 4L60E, no on the solenoids. The planetary gears are what crapped out in mine. Entire transmission was replaced with a GM certified rebuild. They seem to be good trannies ... if you change the fluid and filter at least every 30k, and if you do a lot of towing, don't use overdrive and have an aftermarket high flow trans oil cooler installed.

Back on guns ...

Quote:
A $300 Taurus Model 94 in 22LR. They either work good or they suck. Guess which I bought. Cylinder binding, lead spitting, lumpy triggered !@#$

Me too, but I paid almost $400, heaviest spongey trigger I have ever felt.

Taurus does seem to have some QC issues with the Model 94 in particular. There are a number of THR members who own good ones, so I don't mean to bash the entire Model 94 line, though Taurus does seem to churn out, proportionally, a higher percentage of turds in that particular model. Enough that I just stay away from them.

But I had a Taurus 66 that was a very nice gun. Don't here too many bad experiences in regards to the 65 and 66; I'd love to find a sub 4" one for $200 or less, but alas they are priced in S&W territory where I live. Used Taurus 66s are often as or more expensive than new ones. :confused: I guess people think the Taurus 66 and S&W 66 are the same thing, so they price them accordingly.

kendradad
February 28, 2010, 11:13 AM
Easy, a brand new 1984 Olds Delta 88, first and last GM product.

doc2rn
February 28, 2010, 12:32 PM
Taurus PT-92 9mm. Didn't even make it thru the first mag. The slide locked up and the rear sights fell off. My first and last Taurus

Sounds like I am not the only one! Mine did the exact same thing! I sent it in only they sent it back in even more pieces and said they no longer made the parts. Had it fixed by a local gunsmith, and immediately sold it! :scrutiny:

Racinbob
February 28, 2010, 04:52 PM
Kahr PM9. Never got a full mag through it without a problem (about 400 rounds). Sent it back....on my dime. They refused to cover shipping. Great turn around time. But it came back with a host of new problems. Never, ever again.

Racinbob
February 28, 2010, 04:53 PM
Sorry Jocko. But I just had to say my piece.

Jonah71
February 28, 2010, 07:06 PM
I dont understand some of the people that buy a gun, find out it has problems, then never even try another model and refuse to buy anything from that vendor again. In my opinion that almost borders on ignorance. The world is an imperfect place, and people are human. Errors can be made. When you churn out a million guns, you are going to have a small percentage of them bad. I care more about what happens after you find that. Customer service and a chance for repair at least, but thats just me. One bad gun isnt going to turn me away from a company forever.
One bad gun doesn't spoil me for life on the brand, otherwise I would have never bought another Taurus. I haven't bought another Llama since my first and last experiance with them, nor would I ever consider buying another Jennings. But with all the negative posts I read about kimbers 9doesn't seem to be as many positive), I'd better have one of the good ones or I'll skip buying another one. If it just needs some minor, moderately priced "fixes" I won't gripe since I got it so cheap. If it's a lemon, the dealer said he'd take it back on trade for another gun for what I paid. So I'm not too worried. Unless I spend too much on the fixes.....then I'm screwed) I want that CZ75B, or a smaller S&W revolver anyway.

EddieNFL
February 28, 2010, 07:17 PM
I dont understand some of the people that buy a gun, find out it has problems, then never even try another model and refuse to buy anything from that vendor again. In my opinion that almost borders on ignorance.

Two points:

1) I don't generally discount a company based on one bad product. The exception being if they already had a poor reputation and I was testing my luck. I WILL shun a company if I get a lemon and their customer service sucks.

2) Lots of other choices available.

armoredman
February 28, 2010, 07:18 PM
CETME, made it through one magazineful before it refused to strip another round off the mag, among other issues. Managed to recoup my money, barely. Should have known better about a Century made product...

oldgoat46
February 28, 2010, 08:55 PM
Navy Arms Schofield in 45 LC. Cylinder pin misbored niether Navy arms or Uberti would do anything about it. Caviot emptor

powerline
March 1, 2010, 01:40 PM
#1: Century AK Bullpup. Had never seen one in person, but I really liked the idea and the looks, read a favorable review.
After disassembly for initial cleaning, I found the gas tube had dirt packed in it anywhere the piston wouldn't scrape it out. Cleaned it, and surprise! The steel under the dirt was heavily pitted.
Put it back together, took it out to shoot, found there was nowhere I could hold the thing with my off hand where it wouldn't get burned by the sling loop. Fired one mag through it, took it back after four days of ownership. Traded for a Glock 34.

#2 Century L1A1 FAL. This was about 15 years ago. Thing was determined to be a single shot FAL, would not cycle no matter what. Traded for Sig 226.

saturno_v
March 1, 2010, 01:47 PM
EAA Witness 10mm

Beautiful looking pistol, accurate but plagued by quality control issues (jamming of every kind due to defective magazine and feeding ramp), it could not take a steady diet of full power 10mm loads without cracking the slide and backed by a joke of a company (EAA)

Great potential though...just not yet..

Broken Anvil
March 1, 2010, 01:59 PM
Ruger Security Six .357 NIB wouldn't fire double action
Ruger Blackhawk NIB .45 colt/.45 acp wouldn't even cycle .45 acp cylinder
Ruger M77V .308 NIB factory recall on safety.....shot hole in truck door
I know, I know Rugers are the best thing around and built like tanks......ask me if I'll buy another one.

hillbillydelux
March 1, 2010, 02:43 PM
I had no intentions on brand bashing. Just the biggest POS gun I ever bought happned to be a Ruger MINI-14. I own more rugers than any other brand of firearm (mostly revolvers though). Ruger makes awesome revolvers and .22's. Just not rifles IMHO. I stick with Remington for rifles and shotguns, Ruger for revolvers and .22's. Mostly springfield for auto's. These may not be the best they are just what works for me. No manufacturer has a full line up of flawless products.

shootr
March 1, 2010, 02:59 PM
In more than 40 years of shooting and owning guns, I can't think of any that were a POS. Guess I've been lucky.

I've owned my share over the years too, but have tended to stick with Colt, S&W, Browning, etc. Never owned a Kahr, Kimber, Taurus, or anything that's come out "new" in the last 20 years.

For the last 15 years or so, most of my gun purchases have been used. That's especially true of pistols. Guess I just like the older stuff - especially the S&Ws -- and the great value they represent.

swiftak
March 1, 2010, 04:53 PM
another vote for walther p22

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