What is this package worth ?


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Chester32141
February 25, 2010, 09:26 AM
Considering the FTF purchase of this package ... what would y'all say that it's worth ... :)

For Sale: S&W Model 19, 2 1/2 inch barrel .357 Magnum, 6 shot revolver. Hard chrome, bright finish. Very good condition.

Price Includes: New Pachmayr compact grips and Rogers black polymer grips; 2 speed loaders, black leather basket weave paddle holster, Bianchi AccuMold Nylon slide holster, and a Galco IWB holster. I'll also throw in some .357 ammo (less than 50 rds, haven't counted what's left).

I bought this gun new and almost immediately had it hard chromed. The plating job was excellent, and still is.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb171/CrackerKen/DSCI0038.jpg

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The Bushmaster
February 25, 2010, 09:46 AM
It looks to be pinned and recessed. Mod 19 is a fine weapon. But having it hard chromed after the fact will lower the going price. Pachmayr compact grips? Where's the Pachmayr logo? I have Pachmayr compact grips on mine and they have a logo. These don't even look like packmayr grips. $350 maybe $400..?..

hiram2005
February 25, 2010, 09:53 AM
The grips that are on it are the Rogers grips.

And I would say 350 to 400 also.

Chester32141
February 25, 2010, 10:46 AM
Even with the 3 holsters included ?

... black leather basket weave paddle holster, Bianchi AccuMold Nylon slide holster, and a Galco IWB holster

kanook
February 25, 2010, 11:21 AM
If I were looking at your trade, this is what I see:

Not factory finish, but still looks nice

No factory grips, you are giving additional grips that you like but no factory

I have no use for the speed loaders

Out of the holsters you mention, I would only be interested in one

Your trade is set up the way you liked it, find someone with the same taste to get more.

No harm or foul is intended, just an outsider view.

kanook
February 25, 2010, 11:24 AM
Pachmayr compact grips? Where's the Pachmayr logo? I have Pachmayr compact grips on mine and they have a logo.Not all Pachmayr grips have the logo on them

7.62 Nato
February 25, 2010, 11:29 AM
That is a gun I wouldn't mind having. I would buy it if I could get it for about $350 even though I would prefer stainless.

MachIVshooter
February 25, 2010, 11:45 AM
You have what would sell for around $300 as an original gun.

Your upgraded grips are worth nothing when it comes to resale value, nor is the custom finish (which is noticeably worn).

The ammo, speedloaders and holsters also don't add much, especially if they don't suit the buyer's needs.

I'd say $350 is about all you can hope to get in most areas.

Just like hot rods, it's nearly impossible to recoup your investment in something like this.

Chester32141
February 25, 2010, 11:47 AM
It's not mine ... I was looking at buying it for $450 ...

gbw
February 25, 2010, 11:56 AM
No collector value whatever, and not a steal, but probably not a huge rip either if the gun is in good mechanical condition. If you want it, buy it. If you wait you MAY find a better deal, but you also may not. 2.5" M19 are getting more expensive by the day.

jimmyraythomason
February 25, 2010, 12:01 PM
OP,if you want this package and are happy with the price then that is all that is needed to set it's value. The opinions of others doesn't establish it's value. If YOU are happy with the asking price then yes it is worth it.

savit260
February 25, 2010, 01:19 PM
Yup, I'd agree with most everyone else here. That set up would go about $350 tops around here.

Gunfighter123
February 25, 2010, 01:30 PM
I'd offer $400 and if it's a deal -- then sell off the holsters and grips you do not like and you will be around the $300/$350 mark.

content
February 25, 2010, 02:02 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // 2010 Standard Catalog of Firearms

NIB$600//EXC$500//VG$350//good$200//fair150//poor100{{{{ If under $400.00 I'd buy it}}}}

The book prices are usually lower than the store/ftf prices around here.
You can look at the hard chrome as a plus or minus. To me it is a minus.

Plus 1 to post five for the rest.

Chester32141
February 25, 2010, 04:17 PM
Appreciate the input ... :cool:

mbdolfin
February 25, 2010, 04:30 PM
I picked up mine in 1990 from a neighbor for $150 bucks. Great gun! Yes it is Loud, loud,loud! I am hoping to pass it on to the nephew in another 20 years.
I say buy it!

jad0110
February 25, 2010, 05:33 PM
You have what would sell for around $300 as an original gun.

Dang, where do you live???

Around here, original 95%+ condition 2.5" Model 19s (pinned & recessed) rarely sell for less than $550 from what I've seen. 4" 19s are $400-ish.

To the OP,

If you like the gear and will use most of it, I'd say it is a fair deal. I'd offer $400 and go as high as $430 or so.

And as someone else said, you can always post for sale on THR the items you don't want and defray the cost further.

LawofThirds
February 25, 2010, 07:46 PM
In my area K frame .357's are going 550ish, I just paid 450 for a nickel P&R 19-4 without original grips and considered it a pretty good deal.

Old Shooter
February 25, 2010, 08:14 PM
$400 to $430.... I'd buy it if it's in good mechanical shape. Model 19s in that configuration won't be getting any cheaper anytime soon.

Confederate
February 25, 2010, 08:54 PM
I'm not sure hard chroming would detract from the price. Hard chroming, if done well, costs well over a hundred dollars to apply and adds substantial protection to the gun. Compared to modern S&Ws, it also is a damn sight better looking.

What you wish to spend is up to you, but $350 for a plated S&W I think would be a bargain. At $450 it becomes a bit less so. I also would consider a primo grade Ruger Security-Six if I could find one.

Although the hard chrome finish is great, many would prefer the gun's original blue. In the end, it's your choice. You can't lose.

jimmyraythomason
February 25, 2010, 08:56 PM
Although the hard chrome finish is great, many would prefer the gun's original blue. That would be me but I'm not the one buying it.In the end, it's your choice. That about sums it up.

bdb benzino
February 26, 2010, 01:11 AM
They go for around $450 around here, I would get it!!

BHP FAN
February 26, 2010, 01:27 AM
I wouldn't pay over $400.00.

David E
February 26, 2010, 02:16 AM
Sounds like it comes with TWO sets of grips. This would be why there is no Pachmayer logo on the ROGERS grips shown on the gun........:rolleyes:

I'm astonished that anyone buying a revolver would have no use for speedloaders for it........ unless said speedloaders are total crap. The good news is, Safariland Comp II and III's don't cost that much.

The only holster that has much value to me is the Galco IWB.

I'd ask who hard chromed it. If it was Metalife or similar, then it's good to go. If it was Charlies Beer, Gun and Bait Shop, I'd pass.

I'd also look at the recoil shield to see how much wear is there, caused by firing it. IE; is there an outline of the 11 o'clock cartridge on the recoil shield?

vanagon40
February 26, 2010, 12:25 PM
$530 (including shipping and all FFL fees) last September.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb215/vanagon40/193snub.jpg

X-Rap
February 26, 2010, 12:51 PM
I gave $400 for a 2.5 686 not long ago and I have never paid over $350 for a K frame in any finish or barrel length, the prices are on the up swing for the short wheel guns however and your area might be at the front line. I can remember a couple 19 & 66 buys for $250 those days are gone.

rmfnla
February 26, 2010, 02:47 PM
Dang, where do you live???

Around here, original 95%+ condition 2.5" Model 19s (pinned & recessed) rarely sell for less than $550 from what I've seen. 4" 19s are $400-ish.

ORIGINAL finish, maybe. This one has been redone.

S&Wfan
February 26, 2010, 03:22 PM
Hi,

It is a refinished gun. It does not have the original finish in great condition, and you really don't know when and why it was refinished.

It isn't worth much . . . except as a "shooter." If you like hard chrome on a M19, go for it. However, if you get into S&W revolvers much you'll quickly loathe the fact that this gun screams at everyone that it is not an original finish gun.

Also, if you consider it . . . check out the mechanical condition thoroughly to make sure the gun didn't have a long, hard life.

Value? $350 if someone really wanted it with the wrong finish on it. Frankly though, someone WILL buy it for that or more.

MachIVshooter
February 26, 2010, 03:25 PM
Dang, where do you live???

Around here, original 95%+ condition 2.5" Model 19s (pinned & recessed) rarely sell for less than $550 from what I've seen. 4" 19s are $400-ish.

That gun is no where near 95% (fired, but virtually new condition). More like 85 (fair to good condition).

The Model 19-4 P&R 4" I bought for $199 in 2006 was in about the same condition. My ~90% model 65-3 was $299 About the same time. They've crept up a bit, but they're still no where near $450 for a K-frame in that condition.

44-henry
February 26, 2010, 09:27 PM
$450 would be on the upper end, but even with the the refinish it would sell rather quickly on a dealers shelf around here. Model 19's with 2 1/2" barrels are hot right now. and that one beats the hell out of the stuff coming out of the S&W factory right now; in addition, there certainly wouldn't be any concerns about carrying it around and shooting it. It certainly won't appear to a collector, but the price is approaching what you would pay for a new Taurus right now and although I have nothing against Taurus, I would certainly rather have a pinned and recessed Smith in my collection for the same money. If you don't like the other stuff you can easily dump it on fleabay and recoup at least $50out of the deal. If it were me I would offer $375 cash and see what happens.

madcratebuilder
February 27, 2010, 05:16 AM
You have what would sell for around $300 as an original gun.


I'll take all you can get at that price. Around here a 2.5 inch M19 in very good or better is going to be $500 or more likely $600.

To the OP, non original finish, non original grips knock the price down but it's still a good revolver. $400 is what I would value it at.

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