Cylinder & Slide Extreme Duty Sights
KFD147
November 19, 2003, 10:08 PM
Does anybody have any on their pistol. I was thinking of putting this on my M66 for CC. Do these need any modifications to the pistol or is it just a "drop in part"?
http://shop.cylinder-slide.com/clickcartpro/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?usr=50X4230200&rnd=1990789&rrc=N&cip=24.26.196.150&pg=prod&ref=8&cat=3
Thanks
Jason:cool:
[Edited by Tamara to fix link...]
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Tamara
November 19, 2003, 10:33 PM
I'm seriously considering a set of these for my modified Model 57, as a set of pseudo-fixed sights would be infinitely more suitable for this gun.
Phil in Seattle
November 19, 2003, 10:54 PM
From the Brownells description:
Converts Smith & Wesson Model K, L, and N, adjustable sight revolvers, to a strong, highly visible, fixed sight. Steel sight body is contoured to be completely snag proof. Raised ears give an easy-to-see, gets-you-on-target-fast notch. Available as plain Black or White Dot. Front sight blade is left oversize; lets you zero revolver with duty ammo, then pin sight in place. Requires cutting a dovetail in front sight base. Plain black only.
SPECS:Steel, black, matte finish. Rear body - 2.5" (6.4cm) long, .285" (7.2mm) high, .108" (2.7mm) deep notch. Front - .600" (15.2mm) long, .372" (9.4mm) tall, .128" (3.2mm) wide. Dovetail - 65¡ x .330" x .070". Fits newer revolvers with rounded front, rear sight leaf, older guns require drilling and tapping."
I've been thinking about one for my 657 too!
Tamara
November 19, 2003, 10:57 PM
Requires cutting a dovetail in front sight base.
Now I remember why I hadn't installed them. Don't want to have to re-re-blue a gun that's just been re-blued. :uhoh:
Phil in Seattle
November 19, 2003, 11:04 PM
Requires cutting a dovetail in front sight base.
But only if you want or need to use the new front sight that comes with the set, otherwise you could use your existing front sight if it works OK or change it out for a standard pinned in blade that you could use to regulate the POI with.
KFD147
November 19, 2003, 11:06 PM
I am confused!:confused: :confused:
What does having a dovetail cut in the front sight base have to do with replacing the rear adj. sight? My M66 already has a dovetail cut for the red front insert. But why another cut?
Jason:cool:
Phil in Seattle
November 20, 2003, 12:32 AM
I am confused!
You're thinking of the wrong sort of dovetail.
The dovetail they are talking about is to allow you to "easily" interchange the front sight. It's a crosswise dovetail like this.
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/858902/2680110/38595926.jpg
The front sight that comes with the set is going to be taller than needed and you'd file it down to the proper height to regulate your sights, if needed.
George Hill
November 20, 2003, 02:45 AM
Is this really some sort of a tactical advantage? I have never had any problem with adjustable sights on any of my guns getting knocked off or otherwise damaged. 95 seems like a lot of coin for a downgrade.
Andrew Wyatt
November 20, 2003, 03:27 AM
winder if these'd fit on my smith and wesson sighted 1911
KFD147
November 20, 2003, 06:51 AM
Okay. That makes sense. George is right that does seem a little high. I thought if it was just a drop-in part it might be worth the money. Unfortunately I would have to cut on my M66-2. If it sounds to good to be true!:rolleyes:
Thanks
Jason:cool:
Phil in Seattle
November 20, 2003, 06:39 PM
95 seems like a lot of coin for a downgrade
It is a lot of coin! Even after a Browells discount $67 (black) or $75(white dot) it's still a lot of coin!
Old Fuff
November 20, 2003, 06:55 PM
KFD147:
It would seem that the cost of this sight system might be almost equal to 1/3 of the purchase price of a S&W model 13HB, police department trade-in, or about ¼ of what it would cost to get the same thing in a stainless model 65. If I was in your shoes and wanted a good K-frame .357 with fixed sights I’d save my pennies and go in this direction.
George Hill
November 20, 2003, 09:27 PM
You know, if your going to spend that much on sights... why not go just a few more bucks and get the Big Dots?
KFD147
November 20, 2003, 10:16 PM
Old Fuff:
I already have a M13HB. I love it. It was my fathers first duty pistol back in the 70's. I would love to get my hands on a M65. Do you have any pics that I could drool over?
I think that the sights would be alot more desireable if they came in a tritium version.
Jason:cool:
Old Fuff
November 20, 2003, 10:48 PM
KFD147:
A S&W model 65 in nothing more or less then a model 13 made out of stainless steel. They are relatively easy to find because police departments traded in thousands when they switched to automatics. Most are in pretty good shape, and the large number of used trade-ins has kept the prices down.
If you get a heavy barrel (which is the most common) a gunsmith or machinist can mill off the front sight blade and then mill a dovetail in the rib. Thereafter you can mount one of the front sights that are used on popular pistols (SIG, Colt, etc.) with whatever kind of insert or bead you like, including tritium. You can also move it to adjust for windage - point of aim/point of impact.
Both the model 13 (carbon steel) and 65 (stainless steel) make excellent, and inexpensive starting points for many kinds of customized versions. You can leave the butt square or round it; keep the hammer as it is or bob it, and of course mount all kinds of sights.
The only limit is your imagination ….
Gordon
November 21, 2003, 12:21 AM
someday I am gonna have a set of these with Scott Mullerken's gold dot front put on my 629-2 Mtn Revolver. I'll have it set for 300 grain Factory XTP's .;)
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