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grafsk8er
February 26, 2010, 01:01 PM
for those of you who carry and conceal, what reason do you feel the need to carry a pistol, and where do you travel to where u feel as if you may need one? i'm just trying to figure out why people outside of lets just say the inner cities for instance would feel the need to carry a pistol with them.

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rboatright
February 26, 2010, 01:20 PM
Because assaults happen outside the inner city.

Because car-jacking happens outside the inner city.

Because we walk through parking lots late at night when few others are around.

Because home-invasions are up substantially.

Because I'm getting older and running away isn't as much of an option as it was when I was younger.

Because I want to.

Because I can.

grafsk8er
February 26, 2010, 01:24 PM
very good points. and i know problems occur outside the inner city, i was just using it as an example. now i'm assuming most people do not know you carry, so them thinking differently of you bc u carry do not exist.
I guess what i'm trying to say is you don't feel as if you're labeled anything bc you carry.

Mike J
February 26, 2010, 01:26 PM
Because anything can happen anywhere. I had decided to get a firearms license before then but a couple of years ago right at Christmas time I read about a guy shooting up a mall out West with an SKS. I used to believe that being aware I could avoid trouble before it started. Now I have small children which makes me much less mobile. If anything were to happen to them I could have prevented.......

X-Rap
February 26, 2010, 01:30 PM
Why would you want seat belts in your car? Inner cities don't have a corner on violent and heinous crimes. Rural areas in fact probably have greater response times that cities anyway.
In the country it is not uncommon to have people come onto your property for directions, solicitations, or who knows what day and night. It might be a different mindset than in the city but it requires awareness and preparation none the least.
Small towns are the same, some look at them as easy marks because many don't have the sophisticated security and law enforcement as bigger town and cities.

padd54
February 26, 2010, 01:32 PM
Why wouldn't you want to carry? It is our God given right to protect ourselves and others no matter where that may be. How do you know where the bad guys will be?

The Bushmaster
February 26, 2010, 01:33 PM
Last fall we had a rabid skunk at the intersection of 14 and 5 highways. 4 miles from my front door.

shortly there after a rabid racoon was found 200 yards from my barn (where I keep two horses).

I carry 24/7...I live in a rural setting.

Add this reason to rboatright's list.

grafsk8er
February 26, 2010, 01:40 PM
those are all very strong and validating points you guys make. i guess i've never looked at situations that way before, seeing as though as i come from a fairly safe small town.

Mike J
February 26, 2010, 02:01 PM
Bad things happen in fairly safe small towns too.

hso
February 26, 2010, 02:13 PM
For the same reason I have other emergency supplies around.
I have a full first aid kit in the house, a smaller one in the car, and some bare essentials in my wallet.
I have a full size fire extinguisher in the house and a smaller one in the car. I have a rifle and shotgun at home and carry a handgun.

I also have sought out and taken training in each because a tool is only as good as the person trained to use it.

Do I hope to use any of them? Nope. Do I expect to use any of them? I have, but not all of them. I've never needed a gun while away from home, but I carry one and know how to use it just in case.

If I need them and don't have them with me or the knowledge to use them, what am I supposed to do when random chance presents me with such a problem?

possum
February 26, 2010, 02:17 PM
i am always covered with medical, life, and auto insurance, and i am always covered with defense insurance the same. it is a fact that bad things happen to good people, and that isn't just in the unsafe parts of town, as a matter of fact I would venture to say that you are most vulnerable in your home town, where you might let your guard down, because you think and feel that you are safe. if i won't go somewhere without a gun, i won't go there with a gun either.

NG VI
February 26, 2010, 02:18 PM
This
Because assaults happen outside the inner city.

Because car-jacking happens outside the inner city.

Because we walk through parking lots late at night when few others are around.

Because home-invasions are up substantially.

Because I'm getting older and running away isn't as much of an option as it was when I was younger.

Because I want to.

Because I can.

And this

For the same reason I have other emergency supplies around. I have a full first aid kit in the house, a smaller one in the care, and some bare essentials in my wallet. I have a full size fire extinguisher in the house and a smaller one in the car. I have a rifle and shotgun at home and carry a handgun.

And most of all, this

I used to believe that being aware I could avoid trouble before it started. Now I have small children which makes me much less mobile. If anything were to happen to them I could have prevented.......



What would someone label a person for carrying, if they somehow knew?

rmfnla
February 26, 2010, 02:37 PM
I've used my CCW to stop violent crimes on three separate occasions when I lived in states that did not deprive me of my right to carry.

Now that I live in CA the best I can do is call 911 and hope there's a donut shop nearby... :rolleyes:

hso
February 26, 2010, 02:47 PM
Do cops even eat donuts in California? :neener:

Ronsch
February 26, 2010, 03:47 PM
I carry around home, due to robberies, and the bears that wander through my yard to get to the river full of salmon.

I normally vacation down in the Lower 48 to states that honor my ACHP. Right now, that is 34 states.

7an
February 26, 2010, 04:15 PM
http://couldhaveusedagun.com/

NG VI
February 26, 2010, 04:19 PM
Do cops even eat donuts in California?

Only if they have no trans-fats...

OldMac
February 26, 2010, 04:28 PM
You are typically surprised where you didn't expect something to happen. If I knew when and where a criminal or mad dog or rabid raccoon would appear, I would avoid that encounter. Since my ESP has been unreliable, I choose to go armed.

jackg
February 26, 2010, 05:06 PM
I live in a 3 BR Ranch style home. Adjacent to the kitchen is a sliding door wall that leads to a deck on the back of the house, it's in a development but it's a rural area and our home backs up to a well used road and it's very dark at night.

Last summer, about 9:30 PM I was sitting in the family room watching the boob tube when out of the corner of my eye I saw some movement at the door wall that was open with a screen door unlocked. I thought, "oh crap", my gun is in the bedroom. Then I heard this weak little voice say "Sir..Sir" so reluctantly I got up & went to the door and as I got there I saw this little teen aged girl holding a clip board. She was looking for signatures on a petition. As my adrenaline level stopped rising I gave her a lecture that lasted a good 3-4 minutes. I think it made an impression on her, at least I hope I did. I know that I probably should have gone for my gun but my wife was in the same room as I and I wouldn't do that to her.

When I got back to my Lazy-Boy I re-ran the event in my head. First I have to tell you that just weeks before this event I had considered putting my little .380 in the fold of my chair (we've been empty nesters for 15 years) just in case of something like this happened but then I kinda forgot about it. So you can imagine how I felt when I realized that if that gun was where I thought of putting it that little girl could have been in real trouble.

As I have always told my wife , I can't tolerate stupidity. Who are these people that think it's OK to approach a home in the darkest possible conditions and just stand on a back porch and mumble & move around in the dark like a criminal. That event has never left my memory and probably never will, but it demonstrated to me how accidents of the lethal nature happen.

Texas Gun Person
February 26, 2010, 05:09 PM
Because I cannot put a Police Officer in my pocket.

.22M.R.F.
February 26, 2010, 05:15 PM
What they all said!

mljdeckard
February 26, 2010, 05:42 PM
We who carry have made a decision that we are responsible for our own safety. We carry because police are too big to fit in our pockets. They won't follow us everywhere we go. And ultimately, they are not legally responsible to act to defend us as individuals anyway. Less-populated areas are not free of bad people and events, and when you are away from populated areas, it is even harder for a cop to respond.

The truth is, police are very ineffective at preventing crime at all. Police are REACTIVE, not PROactive. They are constitutionally prevented from acting to prevent crimes they THINK will happen. When something bad happens, the police will take minutes to respond. The problem is, when your life is in danger, minutes is way too long. You have SECONDS to react.

We don't carry where it's dangerous. We carry everywhere it isx legally allowed, because we have absolutely no idea where bad things will occur. If we had an idea where and when bad things would happen, we wouldn't just take a gun, WE WOULD AVOID GOING THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. And if it were unavoidable, I would take a rifle, not a handgun.

HighStrung
February 26, 2010, 10:16 PM
Because making absolute sure that I'm able to come home each day to take care of my wife and kids as well as myself is my #1 priority. I live in one of the lowest crime areas of my state, but that doesn't make me immune to bad people doing bad things. 1 hour after leaving a Wal-Mart last month, 2 people died from a disturbed girlfriend who found out her boyfriend actually had a wife. One was an innocent bystander, the other was the husband/boyfriend. This Wal-Mart is also in one of the best parts of the city. Crisis doesn't make an appointment, just like it was mentioned above. I have a fire extinguishers and smoke detectors, I have seatbelts and airbags, and I hope I never need those either. But if I need them, I want them on/beside me.

MedWheeler
February 26, 2010, 10:37 PM
Someone was asked if carrying a gun made him a bad-@ss.. he replied that he carried because he wasn't a bad-@ss.. Same goes for me.

franconialocal
February 26, 2010, 10:41 PM
Because I'm not going to rely on ANYONE else to esure the safety of my home, my girlfriend, my family, or me when it's needed most. Nuff' said.

tangomike706
February 27, 2010, 02:18 AM
All of the above reasons, and this one . I can think of no safer place , for most of my firearms (not all at once ) then on my person . lol

Brien Crotty
February 27, 2010, 04:05 AM
those are all very strong and validating points you guys make. i guess i've never looked at situations that way before, seeing as though as i come from a fairly safe small town.
Because "fairly safe" does not equal "completely safe."

It is my right, and there is no reasonable disadvantage to having the capability and ability to protect yourself should something unfortunate, unwelcome or unexpected happen to you. I would certainly not simply want to rely on the "good will of our fellow man, and the forbearance of reptiles."

I would far rather have my gun and not need to use it, than need it once and not have it. Just ask Dr. Susan Gratia. She lived in a "fairly safe small town," too.

Brien

Deus Machina
February 27, 2010, 04:13 AM
Most important: because I can.

Otherwise, see all other points.

I don't carry because I think I might need it, I carry because I'm not certain I won't.

CajunBass
February 27, 2010, 07:38 AM
Mostly because I like guns and enjoy having one around me. Frankly I doubt seriously that I'll ever "need" it, but one never knows. If nothing else I might have to put down a crippled deer I or someone else hit.

I also don't smoke but I carry a cigarette lighter with me. One of these days I MIGHT need to build a fire.

gordy
February 27, 2010, 01:16 PM
Well in the small town I live in(5000) not much happens. Kinda quite, I like it that way. But not that long age a LEO stopped a young man for speeding. And low and behold the young man tried to kill the LEO. As it turned out the young man was shot one time in the chest. DOA. The LEO was not charged.
And a certain part of the community are all up in arms that this low life scum got shot.
I think that if that young man would have been angery at any one else, Police officer or just you or me walking down the street he would not have a problem trying to hurt said person.
There are lots of peaple on this planet that just don't care about the guy next to them. That is why I carry.

Al LaVodka
February 27, 2010, 02:43 PM
The benefits of an armed, free, society accrue to well beyond those who are carrying. A supermarket makes little margin as a percentage of each sale but earns its money in inventory turnover, or volume. They have to be competitively priced for everthing because a relatively few shoppers who are very familiar with prices and can shop elsewhere, with their friends, ultimately means the difference between profit and loss. Why do I mention this?

Because I do not have to be armed to know that I COULD be. Criminals have the same insight. There are potentially no such things as a helpless victim anymore in places w/CCW. Or there could just be an armed good samaritan nearby. An armed society is a polite society. And where citizens have CCW crime has dropped fairly significantly. Nor has it been replaced by the anti-gunners' predicted firefights on every street corner.

When you need a firearm, nothing else will take its place. Even the Boy Scouts' motto is "be prepared." When every second counts the police are only minutes away. Personally, I am often in areas or potentially going into situations where I would be REMISS for not being armed; despite what many socialist governments tell their subjects, a criminal's life is not my fault and I am not worth less than anyone else. In fact, I personally feel I'm worth more than many if not most.

Al

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