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There is much to read here, especially by way of pdf files. Give yourself some time before you reach any conclusions. http://www.amren.com/#

[Drjones]

This is particularly interesting: http://www.amren.com/sheehan.htm

Pat Buchanan, in his book "Death of the West" quotes some extremely eye-opening government statistics that complement the above article.

[NIGHTWATCH]

Im completly facinated by this site because it has served me well in a recent argument I had with a friend on these very issues. But this site is going much deeper than I could have ever imagined.

The true racist will call "Jared Taylor" a racist. But he is not. He is speaking the naked truth.

Here is one quick resource example that my friend did not expect in our debate regarding "Black Racism". It left him speechless. The issue at one point was music. I had said to him that rap music is nothing but a charter of racist violence against whites. He of course disagreed (as I speak, MNM is being accused of racism by black hypocrite rappers). I e-mailed him this info and I have yet to hear from him. :rolleyes:


http://www.amren.com/rap1.htm

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How much longer can America live in denial. :( http://www.amren.com/rapsheet.htm


THE COLOR OF CRIME- http://www.amren.com/colrcrim.html

[CaesarI]

I'm embarassed this was even posted on THR.

[NIGHTWATCH]

Now thats a fine contribution to the discussion. Care to elaborate?

[Sven]

I'm not sure how I feel about this either, and frankly I'm trying to see how this fits into a subject related to 'right to bear arms and civil rights'.

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

You could argue that, because we are taught to feel "white" guilt, and follow that path, we are cutting our own throat, or

That it is racist.

Civil rights?
RKBA: Stretch.......we give up our guns because we are guilty:scrutiny:

[NIGHTWATCH]

As an hispanic American, I just find it hard to believe that some of the information here goes unchallenged in the white community. "Taylor" has a point when he speaks of "white self-destruction", AKA-Liberals. :barf:

While I do not agree with many of his arguments, Im not going to HATE the man for having his opinion. And Im not going to attack the messenger and silence him. To silence him is to silence ourselves.

I agree with him on one level. Racial violence must be challenged equally in all forms.


What does this have to do with civil rights and guns? :rolleyes: Are you kidding me? Some of your children will be middle-aged by the time the percieved "Taylor" nightmare reaches fruition and whites are a minority. If whites make up 2/3 of the population now and 50% of the crimes that are committed against whites are from blacks, what when you are the minority? If the government and media are allowing this now, what then? To call this concern "racist" and not a valid concern of self-preservation is nut's. And Im not white! Isnt it suppossed to be about equallity?

So "WSD" is a conservative trait as well? My God, we are doomed.

[Alexey931]

"What does this have to do with civil rights and guns? Are you kidding me? Some of your children will be middle-aged by the time the percieved "Taylor" nightmare reaches fruition and whites are a minority."

There is one issue about WSD that lacks sensitivity and has nothing to fear from the plague of PC. The white women breed insufficiently. And that is enough to eliminate the whites. So you might as well disregard all the other (marginal) problems.

Best regards

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Mario Obledo (former California secretary of health and welfare and co-founder of Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund: "We're going to take over all the political institutions of California. California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. If they [Anglos] don't like Mexicans, they ought to go back to Europe." [interviewed on radio station KIEV, Los Angeles, June 17, 1998.] (added 6/29/03)


Gregory Jay (English professor at the University of Wisconsin, on the purpose of Whiteness Studies) - "to make visible the history and practices of white supremacy as found in social life, the law, literature, music, politics, and every other realm of our 'civilization.' " [Chris Weinkopf, "Whiteness Studies," Frontpagemag.com, June 25, 2003.] (added 6/29/03)


Charles Barron (New York City Councilman, on the subject of reparations for slavery) -- "I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health." [Deroy Murdock, "Dems Need to Houseclean" National Review Online, January 6, 2003.] (added 2/05/03)


Sharpe James (mayor of Newark, New Jersey referring to his light-skinned black opponent in the 2002 Democratic primary) -- "the faggot white boy." [Deroy Murdock, "Dems Need to Houseclean" National Review Online, January 6, 2003.] (added 2/05/03)

Noel Ignatiev (white Harvard professor and editor of "Race Traitor" magazine) -- "Keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed, but destroyed." [Robert Boatman, "Trent Lott's of the Left," Frontpagemag.com (online), January 3, 2003.] (added 2/05/03)


Nathan McCall (journalist for the Washington Post in his autobiography "Makes Me Wanna Holler") -- "The fellas and I were hanging out on our corner one afternoon when the strangest thing happened. A white boy … came pedaling a bicycle casually through the neighborhood. … Somebody spotted him and pointed him out to the rest of us. 'Look! What's that mother????a doin' ridin' through here?! Is he crraaaazy?!' … We caught him on Cavalier Boulevard and knocked him off the bike. … Ignoring the passing cars, we stomped him and kicked him. My stick partners kicked him in the head and face and watched the blood gush from his mouth. I kicked him in the stomach and nuts, where I knew it would hurt. Every time I drove my foot into his balls, I felt better … one dude kept stomping, like he'd gone berserk … When he finished, he reached down and picked up the white dude's bike, lifted it as high as he could above his head, and slammed it down on him hard. … We walked away, laughing, boasting, competing for bragging rights about who'd done the most damage." [Nathan McCall, Makes Me Wanna Holler: A Young Black Man in America, Random House, 1993, p. 3.] (added 2/05/03)


Spike Lee (film director) -- "When talking about the history of this great country, one can never forget that America was built upon the genocide of Native Americans and enslavement of African people. To say otherwise is criminal." [Lee Gives 'The Patriot' a Thumbs-Down, Los Angeles Times, July 7, 2000, p. F2.] (added 2/05/03)


George P. Bush (son of Florida Governor Jeb Bush and his Mexican-born wife Columba, and nephew of the President speaking to a gathering of Hispanics) -- ". . . we have to fight for our race, we have to find the leaders who represent us."[Reuters, Aug. 2, 2000.] (added 2/05/03)


Marcus Jacoby (the only white on the historically black Southern University football team from 1996 to 1998) -- "I heard the entire stadium booing me. Fans were yelling 'Get the white boy out.' " Mr. Jacoby left the team because of repeated death threats. [Ira Berkow, Race: "Keeping Score in Louisiana," The Oregonian, Aug. 1, 2000, p. A6.] (added 2/05/03)



Frances Cress Welsing (black psychiatrist) -- "On both St. Vanlentine's Day and Mother's Day, the white male gives gifts of chocolate candy with nuts. . . . If his sweetheart ingests 'chocolate with nuts,' the white male can fantasize that he is genetically equal to the Black male." [Frances Cress Welsing, The Isis Papers: The Keys to the Colors, Third World Press, 1991, p. 76.] (added 2/05/03)


Frances Cress Welsing (black psychiatrist) -- "Is it not also curious that when white males are young and vigorous, they attempt to master the large brown balls, but as they become older and wiser, they psychologically resign themselves to their inability to master the large brown balls? Their focus then shifts masochistically to hitting the tiny white golf balls in disgust and resignation -- in full final realization of white genetic recisiveness." [Frances Cress Welsing, The Isis Papers: The Keys to the Colors, Third World Press, 1991, p. 141.] (added 2/05/03)


Carol Moseley Braun (former U.S. Senator responding to a column by George Will on her many financial scandals) -- "I think because he couldn't say '******' he used the word 'corrupt.' George Will can just take off his hood and go back to wherever he came from." [George Will, Moseley-Braun May Find Defeat, Chicago Sun-Times, Sept. 7, 1998, p. 19. Scott Fornek, Moseley-Braun Writes Apology, Chicago Sun-Times, Sept. 9, 1998, p. 24.] (added 2/05/03)

Amiri Baraka (poet laureate of the state of New Jersey) -- "Come up, black dada nihilismus. Rape the white girls. Rape their fathers. Cut the mothers' throats." [from "Black Dada Nihilismus".] (added 2/05/03)


Amiri Baraka (poet laureate of the state of New Jersey) "When I die, the consciousness I carry I will to black people. May they pick me apart and take the useful parts, the sweet meat of my feelings. And leave the bitter bull???? rotten white parts alone. (from his classic "Leroy") [John McAlpin, "NJ Gov. Seeks Authority to Fire Poet," AP, Oct. 6, 2002.] (added 2/05/03)

Robert Mugabe (President of Zimbabwe who is taking the land of white farmers and revoking their citizenship) -- "Our party must continue to strike fear in the heart of the white man, our real enemy!" [J.T. Young, "Zimbabwean double standard," Washington Times, January 14, 2003, p. A15.] (added 2/05/03)

Robert Mugabe (President of Zimbabwe who is taking the land of white farmers and revoking their citizenship) -- "Zimbabwe is for black people not white people." ["Zimbabwe 'Votes' " American Renaissance, April 2002, p. 9.] (added 2/05/03)


John Street (black mayor of Philadelphia) -- "Let me tell you: The brothers and sisters are running this city. Oh yes. The brothers and sisters are running this city. Running it! Don't let nobody fool you; we are in charge of the City of Brotherly Love. We are in charge! We are in charge! [Cynthia Burton, "Street Talk Hits a Nerve on Race," Philadelphia Inquirer, April 17, 2002, p. A1.] (added 2/05/03)


William Raspberry (black columnist)- "It is hard to think of whites-only groups formed for the benefit of their members that could gain our approval. Perhaps an organization of white LA police officers formed to help its members improve their attitudes towards minorities . . . . It's always illegitimate for white men to organize as white men." [William Raspberry, "Dubiously Exclusive," Washington Post, Nov. 24, 1995.] (added 2/05/03)

Maggie Gallagher (white columnist) -- "I hate the idea of being white. I never think of myself as belonging to the 'white race.' Those who do, in my experience, are invariably second-raters, seeking solace for their own failures. I can think of few things more degrading than being proud to be white." [Maggie Gallagher, "The Rhetoric of Race," NY Post, Oct. 20, 1995, p. 25.] (added 2/05/03)

Leonard Jeffries (chairman of the African-American studies department of the City College of New York, interviewed in the May, 1995 issue of Rutherford magazine) :
Q: But the black man is no longer a slave.
A: The slave should be waking up, thinking of ways to slit the slavemaster's throat. . . .
Q: What kind of world do you want to leave to your children?
A: A world in which there aren't any white people. . . .
[T.L. Stanclu & Nisha Mohammed, Leonard Jeffries Jr., Rutherford, May 1995, p. 13.] (added 2/05/03)


Paul Mooney (black comedian) -- "White people are scared, because minorities are taking over. White people are worried because they can't out-f*** the Mexicans --minorities in numbers alone are taking over, and white folks are scared because they are afraid that we are going to do to them exactly what they've done to us. And they are absolutely right. When the s*** turns around, we are going to treat you exactly like you've treated us: like s***."[ Danyel Smith, Full Moon, The Bay Guardian, 3/3/93.] (added 2/05/03)


Kay Patterson (state senator in the South Carolina legislature writing in an invitation to black politicians) -- "Now please don't bring any of your 'White-Friends,' this is a 'Colored' meeting."[ Patterson offers no apology for actions, Post and Courier (Columbia) 4/5/93, p. 3B.] (added 2/05/03)

Jocelyn Walters (journalism student at the University of Georgia in the campus-related paper called The Red & Black) "I'm talking to you, white America. You're wrong. You're evil.... Your greed is overwhelming. Your lust for power disgusting. The blood on your hands signifies what a demon you are. . . . "
"You have always thrived off of the blood and sweat of others. You drink them. It is your sustenance.... You make me sick! Sick with anger. Sick with disgust. Sick with the desire to ruin you like you have ruined so many others . . . . [Jocelyn Walters, "Blacks Should revolt against white, male America," The Red and Black, Feb 15, 1993.]

Richard Parry-Jones (white vice president of Ford Motor Company) -- "we are trapped in a monocultural environment that is dominated by old white males. We need to change." [AP, Ford Ties Executives Perks Pay to Merit, Dec. 24, 1999.]

Susan Sontag (white intellectual) "The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean Algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, and Ballanchine ballets don't redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history."

Sonny Carson (black activist in New York when asked if he was anti-Semitic) "I am anti-white. I don’t limit my ‘anti’ to just one group of people." [Mark Mooney, "Ex-Dinkins Organizer Boasts He’s ‘AntiWhite’" New York Post, October 21, 1989, p. 3.]

Miles Davis (black jazz musician) "If somebody told me I had only one hour to live, I’d spend it choking a white man. I’d do it nice and slow." [Miles Davis Can’t Shake Boyhood Racial Abuse, Jet March 25, 1985.]


Eldridge Clever (former Black Panther leader on why he raped white women) "Rape was an insurrectionary act. It delighted me that I was defying and trampling upon the white man’s law, upon his system of values, and that I was defiling his women . . . ." [Eldridge Clever, Soul on Ice, McGraw-Hill, 1968, p.14.]


Gus Savage (former U.S. Representative from Chicago to a white member of the press) "I don’t talk to you white motherf*ckers. . . . You bitch motherf*ckers in the white press. . . . F*ck you, you motherf*cking *sshole . . . white devils." [Marilyn Rauber, "Reporter Says Black Rep Hurled Racial Slurs," New York Post, June 27, 1991, p. 18.]


Chino Wilson (in an editorial in the Daily Collegian, campus newspaper at Penn State University) "After looking at all the evidence there is only one conclusion: white people are devils . . . . I believe that we must secure our freedom and independence from these devils by any means necessary, including violence. . . . To protect ourselves we should bear arms (three handguns and two rifles, maybe an M-16) immediately and form a militia. . . . So black people, let us unite, organize and execute." [Chino Wilson, "African American Students Should Not Trust ‘Devilish’ White People," The Daily Collegian, Penn State University, January 28, 1992.]


Khalid Abdul Muhammed (former assistant to Louis Farrakhan - current leader of the New Black Panther Party) -’Hollywood is owned by these so-called Jews. Look at the movies they make about us, Black people killing Black people. Let’s make some revolutionary movies where we kill white people in the movie. Kill ‘em so hard you have to cover up your popcorn from the blood spraying out of the screen." [Speech at San Francisco State University, May 21, 1997.]


Khalid Abdul Muhammed (on what South African blacks should do to any whites who refuse to leave South Africa): "We kill the women. We kill the babies. We kill the blind. We kill the cripples. We kill them all. . . . When you get through killing them all, go to the goddamn graveyard and kill them a-goddamn-gain because they didn’t die hard enough."[November 29, 1993 speech at Kean College in Union, New Jersey.]


Mary Frances Berry (current head of U.S. Commission on Civil Rights) - "Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them." [Civil Rights Under Reagan, San Francisco, ICS Press, 1991, p. 141.]


Augustin Cebada (Head of the Brown Berets, a Hispanic activist organization at a July 4, 1996 rally) - "We’re here today to show L.A., show the minority people here, the Anglo-Saxons, that we are here, the majority, we’re here to stay. We do the work in this city, we take care of the spoiled brat children . . . we are the majority here and we are not going to be pushed around."

Augustin Cebada "Go back to Simi Valley, you skunks! Go back to Woodland Hills! Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people, it is your duty to die. . . ." [Quoted in Barbara Coe, Reconquista, The Takeover of America, California Coalition for Immigration Reform, 1998, p. 20.]


Prof. Jose Angel Gutierrez (University of Texas, Arlington) "We have an aging white America. They are dying. They are ????ting in their pants with fear! . . . I love it!" - [Speech of Jan. 1995, quoted in Coe, Reconquista, p. 16.]

Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall (in a conversation with Justice William Douglas about racial preferences) "You guys have been practicing discrimination for years. Now it is our turn." [William O. Douglas, The Court Years 1939-1975, New York, Random House, 1980.]

bell hooks (black professor of English at City College of New York) "I am writing this essay sitting beside an anonymous white male that I long to murder." [From her book A Killing Rage, quoted by David Horowitz in Hating Whitey, Spence Publishing, 1999, p. 31.]



Sister Souljah (rap artist and black activist) "If black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people." [R.W. Apple "Jackson Sees ‘Character Flaw’ in Clinton’s Remarks on Racism, New York Times, June 19, 1992.]


Mario Obledo - (1998 Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient and former head of Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund - MALDEF) "California is going to be a Mexican state, we are going to control all the institutions. If people don’t like it they should leave." [Tom Leykis Radio Show, June 7, 1998.]


Malcolm X - "The death of over 120 white people is a very beautiful thing." [Speech in Los Angeles on June 3, 1962 upon learning of a plane crash. He also said on numerous occasions, "The white man is the devil."]



Rev. James Cone - "What we need is the destruction of whiteness, which is the source of human misery in the world." [Quoted in David Horowitz, Hating Whitey, Spence Publishing, 1999, p. 44.]


Art Torres (former chairman, California Democratic Party) - "Remember, [Proposition] 187 [the measure to cut public benefits to illegal aliens] is the last gasp of white America." [The Social Contact, Summer 1998, p. 290.]


Willie Brown (Mayor of San Francisco to a white parent complaining that affirmative action would penalize his children) "I don’t care about your idiot children." [The Social Contract, Summer 1998, p. 290.]
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And "Taylor" is the racist??? Yeah, this is about civil rights and guns. YOUR NOT GONNA HAVE EM!!! :mad:

[Alexey931]

"
Frances Cress Welsing (black psychiatrist) -- "On both St. Vanlentine's Day and Mother's Day, the white male gives gifts of chocolate candy with nuts. . . . If his sweetheart ingests 'chocolate with nuts,' the white male can fantasize that he is genetically equal to the Black male." [Frances Cress Welsing, The Isis Papers: The Keys to the Colors, Third World Press, 1991, p. 76.] (added 2/05/03)


Frances Cress Welsing (black psychiatrist) -- "Is it not also curious that when white males are young and vigorous, they attempt to master the large brown balls, but as they become older and wiser, they psychologically resign themselves to their inability to master the large brown balls? Their focus then shifts masochistically to hitting the tiny white golf balls in disgust and resignation -- in full final realization of white genetic recisiveness." [Frances Cress Welsing, The Isis Papers: The Keys to the Colors, Third World Press, 1991, p. 141.] (added 2/05/03)
"

This is PRICELESS! Where can I get more of that stuff?


And sincerely, it's way too depressing. Something is wrong with the performance of the melting pot.

[Alexey931]

As an afterthought: what about abusing little nasty lead of FMJ balls?

[Betty]

I've read a lot of hateful quotes here. I want to see direct connections between those quotes and how it's affected civil liberties.

For example - if this thread is leading up to white man's diminishing civil rights - try discussing what specific rights and how.

Posting those quotes and "Well, you're not going to have any guns!" isn't good enough. Prove how you're not going to have any guns.

All I've read are:
racist quotes somehow leads up to white man not having guns
Where's all the meat in between?

[CaesarI]

Yeah, here's how I care to elaborate:
Neither the race of the perpetrator of the crime, nor the race of the victim is relevent in any way, shape, or form to me, or my civil rights. The perpetrator of the crime being a racist just makes him/her stupid, it has nothing to do with whether or not he should go to jail for 50 yrs or 10 yrs. Who cares if there are racist black people who kill white people? Are you any less dead because the guy did it for racial reasons? For that matter, who cares if there are racist white people who kill black people? The issue is the same. You can be as racist as you like, all day long as long as you're not out commiting acts of violence against people.

This nonsense about this wonderful white "race" disappearing is Eugenic rubbish. The genetic differences between the "races" are less than the genetic differences within the "races" if we were being classified, we'd be classified as a single *sub*-species there is so little genetic variation.

Worried about "white guilt" ? OK, the bleeding heart left is a bunch of goons who use the fact that someone else's ancestor 150 years ago practiced slavery as an excuse to extort money from people who produce it and give it to people who do not produce it. This is no less or more stupid than any of their other excuses for extorting money. It doesn't matter to me if they use race, or my intelligence, or anything else, what matters to me is that they are extorting money from me, it is wrong no matter what the excuse.

I've never seen any evidence whatsoever that race matters in any situation, and await evidence for such a conclusion. In the absence of such, the proper doctrine is to be "colorblind". Being colorblind is very hard, let me assure you all I'm aware of this, having been raised to believe in Eugenics. The proper solution is to ignore race, you don't request it on forms, you judge men as individuals rather than as members of some group to which they have fewer ties than they do their sex, profession, and political affiliation.

-Morgan

[NIGHTWATCH]

Wheres all the meat? Common sense tells you that gun ownership in America as painted by the communists is a predominantly white experience based on fear and the need to discriminate and kill people of color. That is what the left has advanced for years. GUNS =WHITE AMERICA. And the idiots are buying it.
Secondly, the reason I posted this thread was because I just could not believe that this mass ignorance was not being challenged equally (take everyone of the above quotes and reverse it). I mean, if we are going to talk about race in America, it has to start here. I dont want to hear about 400 years ago, racism of all shades is here and now and its IMHO not being confronted.

And if "you have never seen any evidence that race matters", MOVE TO NYC. :mad:

To actually have to defend what I am saying here is sickening. :barf: Tell me thats its hateful and it needs to be confronted, and I will tell you we as a nation have hope. Tell me that you need facts and figures to recognize the history of unchallenged bigotry and how it will effect us all. And I will tell you that you have no street smarts and that you will not survive.

[Sven]

NIGHTWATCH:

We are arguing whether this belongs in this particular forum (TheHighRoad), which specializes in firearms and related topics - NOT about your viewpoints. Frankly, this is leaning heavily towards off topic.