[Topgun]

I have been advised that it is VERY VERY VERY poor judgement to try "hiding" a handgun going into Canada, but wondered if they would SEAL one for a traverse.

???????

[Preacherman]

Short answer - NO. Very bad idea...

[TCD]

I drove down from Alaska to Canada this summer and they asked at both stops about guns, and they were searching cars(we didnt get searched)

Also I know a guy that got rejected at the border for having a handgun in the truck(going from the lower 48 into canada)


I think its tough for long guns, but it might be impossible for handguns

[Wildalaska]

What Preacher said...

WildstripsearchAlaska

[Lord Grey Boots]

Don't try it. They will tear your vehicle apart. They might let you go afterwards.

[Lennyjoe]

Gotta fill out some paperwork and go thru certain ports of entry on the U.S/Canadian border with paperwork in hand. When you exit Canada you need to show proof that you still have said weapon and paperwork.

Do Not try to hide the weapon and get caught.

Canada also has limitations on handguns. Read their laws. I think anything with less than 4" barrels are frowned upon

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/en/visitors/noticeform.asp is the site you need to go to for information and forms required for handgun transportation into and out of Canada.

[Lennyjoe]

Here is the url for Canada's laws on firearms.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-11.6/58586.html#rid-58666

And this one is for the import and export of a personal firearm into Canada.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-11.6/SOR-98-215/index.html

[Hal]

Side bar -
Firearms have been covered, so let me just add another item that "hung us up" last time we crossed into Windsor - -

Tobacco.

If anyone going is a smoker, you could be in for a delay.
We got absolutly grilled the last 3 times we crossed over the amount of cigarettes were were bringing in.

[Topgun]

A firearm may be traversed through Canada by a non resident provided that:

1. The non resident is in the act of firing the weapon at a licensed border agent at the time of entry.

or

2. The non resident demostrates belligerence deemed sufficient to warrant disregarding other sections of the law to preserve the general peace and welfare or keep points of entry from becoming free-fire zones.

or

3. The non resident is smoking great quantities of tobacco while in the process of firing said weapon during the inspection period whereby the constable may in good judgement decide that other vehicles are more in need of scrutiny.


NOW THEM'S SOME LAWS!

[nemesis]

I have been advised that it is VERY VERY VERY poor judgement to try "hiding" a handgun going into Canada, but wondered if they would SEAL one for a traverse.

Don't mention "SEAL" within earshot of Canadians or they grab bats and start beating everything to death.

Forget about handguns going into Canada unless going to an approved competition and the paperwork will kill you anyway.

[mousecat33]

J.R.Cash-"one piece at a time" no pun intended, I was thinking of polymer type autos like my baby G29.

Regards from TX
mc

[Sven]

They will tear your car apart and make you put it back together yourself.

[westex]

How much paperwork is involved in taking a shotgun across Kanada? Can you mail a handgun to youself at General Delivery at some location in Alaska and reverse the process on the way back to the lower 48?

I'm thinking about a trip in my motorhome to Alaska next year but I'll just forget it if I can't get there with some serious protection?

[HABU]

They will tear your car apart and make you put it back together yourself. Yes they will. I asked the "terrorist in the booth" about bringing guns into canada and guaranteed myself a majorly searched truck and did have to put it all back together. Me and my big mouth.:banghead:

[Gordon Fink]

What about the ferry between Washington and Alaska?

~G. Fink

[moa]

All of those so-called Canadian gun control regulations seem in a way kind of silly to me. We share a 4,000 mile border with Canada. I do not know if that includes the shoreline of the Great Lakes. I imagine there must thousands of remote places you could transport guns across the border from the US.

It used to be that the more remote official crossing sites where only controled on the US side during the day by the Border Patrol. If a suspicious crossing is suspected the BP says it sometimes takes 45 minutes to get to the crossing site by road.

I wonder how many hunters from both sides accidentally cross the border each year?

[Cosmoline]

Just take the Alaska Marine Highway System ferry up and bypass the occupied territories. It's a lot more relaxing than the Al-Can if you have the time.

In general, though, you're discovering one of the main reasons for the local firearm price inflation. It doesn't impact C&R firearms that much because they're easy to mail, and that's one of the main reasons all my rifles are C&R. It's also why my handguns are all old pawn shop specials.

[Slabside]

You may carry weapons thru Canada to Alaska. You must declare them when passing thru the border. They will search you're vehicle anyway.

[mantispid]

I can't wait until you can have some sort of implanted gun... that way if they deny you entry, you can claim some sort of medical discrimination.

[TCD]

slabside, I think the laws have changed in that you have to get permission for certain guns, and handguns must have a barrel longer than 4 1/4 inches I think

[JackM]

Check out the Fed's site.
http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/en/visitors/default.asp

Bye
Jack

[Orthonym]

We can do it this time! We tried in 1775 and 1813 (1814?) and didn't quite manage it, but I betcha we'd have NO problems this time. As a Viet-Nam vet boss of mine said to me over 20 years ago, " I'll defend my country, but I'm not going halfway around the world again, just to kick [donkey]! Well, we can kick [donkey] just by getting into our private vehicles and driving north for a while on good roads! Just think! We can use the northernmost, least habitable parts of Canada as concentration camps for the former inhabitants of Massachusetts and California! Iraq is halfway around the world.




I am now taking bets on how serious you people thought I was when I wrote the above. Not too sure myself.


Edit: "Blame Canada!" - Kyle's Mom

[SDC]

No joke, Orthonym; I'm waiting for the tanks to roll into town (not that you'd NEED tanks, given the state of our military; a well-equipped troop of Boy Scouts would probably be able to do the job).
That being said, I've looked through the current regulations, and there doesn't seem to be anything allowing TRANSSHIPMENT of firearms through Canada; yes, it is possible under some circumstances to temporarily import a hunting rifle or shotgun (and in some particular circumstances, a handgun that isn't prohibited by our bans against .25/.32/barrel under 106mm nonsense), but they expect you to take it back out again with you the way it came. They also want them transported in accordance with Canadian laws; ie. unloaded, out of sight/in a case, and in the case of handguns, trigger-locked inside a locked case and with an Authorization to Transport from the government of the province/territory you're travelling in. Because the Canadian government believes ordinary citizens are simply too stupid, dangerous and unstable to be trusted with firearms, they write these laws to reflect that; please don't give them any of your money by travelling here. I believe your simplest solution to the problem is to have the firearm shipped to an FFL in Anchorage where you can pick it up, and travel up there on the ferry from Washington State to Alaska.

[stevelyn]

We can use the northernmost, least habitable parts of Canada as concentration camps for former residents of MA and CA.

I have a better idea. We have the Aleutian Islands here and there are plenty that are uninhabited. Just drop them off and leave. Attu and Kiska also has plenty of unstable UNEXORD.

[Orthonym]

What if one is a grumpy old hermit-type sourdough bachelor, living in the "northernmost, least habitable" part of the country, at least a hundred miles from the nearest human, dependent on the twice-yearly airplane (depending on the weather) for all supplies he can't kill locally?

Can't someone like that have a pistol? Hell, he could probably set off a small nuclear weapon and nobody would notice!

Pistol laws, if they make any sense at all, (not) only make sense in big cities. That was the theory, anyway.

[SDC]

I know a few people in that situation :) , and the way they deal with that is the firearm must still have all the proper paperwork, only they're willing to consider your backyard the "range" that you're a member of; they realize that to do otherwise would mean unequal treatment under the law, so they continue this farce for everyone.