What is your local law enforcement standard issue sidearm?


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ZeppelinM16
February 28, 2010, 01:12 AM
For my area, central PA, it would be the Glock 22.

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mgmorden
February 28, 2010, 01:17 AM
It's a full-size Glock. Not sure if it's 22 or 17 though.

9mmepiphany
February 28, 2010, 01:34 AM
Sig 226 or 229 in 9mm for the PD or the SO...the SO has the .40 as an option

Borch
February 28, 2010, 01:53 AM
PD gets Glock 22 or 23 depending on fit, SO gets a certain amount of money from the county to buy a weapon that meets certain criteria. If a deputy wants a nice, expensive, decked out weapon he/she has to cover the difference in the purchase price, pay for practice ammo if the weapon is not a 9mm or .40 cal and pay for biannual armorer certifications if the SO doesn't have an armorer for that particular brand on staff.

There are 5 or 6 who carry really nice 1911's. I know 1 of them carries a Wilson Combat Elite CQB with all the aftermarket trimmings and a Crimson Trace.

XxM0nEyMaKeRxX
February 28, 2010, 02:03 AM
mostly sigs. seen a glock once though.

bds
February 28, 2010, 02:07 AM
6 surrounding counties: PD/Sheriff Dept. - G22

1 city PD - Sig 226

Jaxinc
February 28, 2010, 03:42 AM
Sig 229 .40sw

BlisteringSilence
February 28, 2010, 04:45 AM
PD - Sig 226 .40
SO - G22 or G23 (deputy's preference) .40

If you're in SWAT for PD/SO, when you're on a SWAT call you can carry whichever sidearm you want to. Lots of guys have moved to 1911's.

Staties - G21SF .45, unless you've been there forever, in which case you predate the mandatory issue clause, and you can carry whatever you want.

The surrounding PD's carry all Glocks, all G21's, G22's, or G23's. I don't know of a nearby department that carries anything in 9mm.

Rainman76
February 28, 2010, 06:00 AM
I carry the G22. All my other agencies around me, are G22 (x4) the SO being the wierd duck with the Sig 226 in .40

CajunBass
February 28, 2010, 07:20 AM
Some kind of Sig or the other. They all pretty much look the same to me.

joe_security
February 28, 2010, 09:38 AM
Many State Police agencys have embraced the Glock .45 GAP. In my State its the G22. In our area, local Police have to choose the G17 or G19. After probation, they can choose from a list including 9mm/ .40/.45 Glocks, Sig DAK, XD and Baretta to name a few.
Many have S&W DAO such as 5946/6946 from the 1990s. These are the ones too lazy to upgrade. Many are happy with these S&W DAO pistols and see no reason to switch. Old timers still remain with grandfathered revolvers.

Kingofthehill
February 28, 2010, 11:31 AM
Glock 22 with Federal Hydrashocks

JOe

jad0110
February 28, 2010, 11:32 AM
County Sherrif: Glock 22s in .40 S&W

Local PD: Full size Glock in 45 ACP (don't recall the model #).

I hear the most commonly carried BUG and off duty CCW of choice is the S&W 642.

Quiet
February 28, 2010, 01:26 PM
Redlands Police Department = Deputy choice to purchase & use from a list of approved handguns.
San Bernardino County Sherrif = Glock 17 (9x19mm) or Glock 21 (.45ACP), deputy choice between the two.
Riverside County Sherrif = Deputy choice to purchase & use from a list of approved handguns.
California Highway Patrol = S&W Model 4006TSW (.40S&W).
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department = Officer choice to purchase & use from a list of approved handguns.
Nevada Highway Patrol = SIG P229DAK (.40S&W).

hiram2005
February 28, 2010, 02:43 PM
Hamilton County SD Indiana, Glock 22; Indiana State Police Glock 17.

7an
February 28, 2010, 04:22 PM
Sig in 9, 40 or 45. DA/SA trigger.

AK103K
February 28, 2010, 04:54 PM
Central PA here too, but we dont have a local police (not a bad thing :) ), so its the PSP, and their Glock 37's in .45GAP.

usmarine0352_2005
February 28, 2010, 05:00 PM
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We're allowed to have Sig's, Beretta's, S&W's, and HK's.


I carry a Sig P220 Elite.
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oasis618
February 28, 2010, 05:02 PM
Tacoma Police use Kimber Pro Carry.

cjl8651
February 28, 2010, 05:06 PM
SIG P226 in .40 S&W. The RCMP carry the S&W 5946 I believe.....not complete sure though. Transit police carry the Glock 22.

highorder
February 28, 2010, 05:45 PM
Cincinnati PD, S&W M&P9. Magazine safety, no manual safety, no internal lock.

...M&P15's too.

tercel89
February 28, 2010, 06:33 PM
Our city police have the Glock 22 and the Sheriffs patrol has the SIg in .40 . I wish the city had Glock 21's . I hate the .40 too snappy for me .
My 22 is 13 yrs old now and I am getting a replacement for it next week . The G-22 with the tact rails so we can have lights attached . I still dont like the .40 cartridge but I am greatfull for a new gun . My nightsites are still visible .

RobMoore
February 28, 2010, 06:36 PM
SIGs and Glocks mostly, but the state police carry the new Beretta PX4 (I'm guessing because Beretta USA is in MD).

Sgt93
February 28, 2010, 06:49 PM
G21 or a few selected firearms on our Directives allowed in .45 or .40. I carried a Wilson Combat CQB for about 3 years and am now selling it in the forums.

Zundfolge
February 28, 2010, 07:10 PM
S&W M&P .40 recently replaced the S&W 4006

For some reason, almost all the law enforcement agencies here in Colorado pack S&Ws.

franconialocal
February 28, 2010, 07:24 PM
We carry Sig P-220's full size

Snowdog
February 28, 2010, 07:24 PM
Glock 22 loaded with RA40T (180gr Winchester Rangers, "Talon" series).

rogertc1
February 28, 2010, 07:25 PM
County Sig 226 .40
City Sig , Baretta, S&W 40/9 choice

bwsmith2850
February 28, 2010, 09:55 PM
For some reason, almost all the law enforcement agencies here in Colorado pack S&Ws.

Brand loyalty. S&W had a huge share of the LE market before the Glock Tsunami came along. Milwaukee just changed from Glock 22 to the M&P in .40 S&W. They just came full circle: Smith 10 (aka M&P) to Ruger .357 (with .38 spl loads) to Glock, to S&W's new M&P.

Most of the rest of the area still have Glocks in .40 S&W (22 or 23 depending on assignment) along with the odd 17/19 in 9mm.

Erik M
February 28, 2010, 11:57 PM
County Deputy I know carries a XD in .40
The City LEO's carry Glocks.

Ronsch
March 1, 2010, 02:46 PM
Appear to be Glock 22 or 23, I think. I do know they are .40 S&W.

atlanticfire
March 1, 2010, 02:53 PM
Seasonal officers get a S&W 38
Full time officers SIG .40
Swat SIG .45

Bohemus
March 1, 2010, 02:55 PM
Cz 75 p-01

BlisteringSilence
March 1, 2010, 03:15 PM
This is a very interesting discussion, especially the parts about the departments that allow their officers to select their weapons from a list.

My question is thus:

Our sheriff, who is by and large a just and intelligent man, has decreed that everyone who works patrol in our department will carry either a G22 or G23, and if he or she chooses to carry an ankle gun, it shall be a G27.

That way, should things "go totally to ****" (his words, not mine), we have mag compatibility with the rest of the department.

I find this to be an eminently sensible position, and I really wonder why more departments don't do this. Does anyone have any reasoning thus?

LeonCarr
March 1, 2010, 03:35 PM
Whatever they can qualify with, minimum 9mm for auto and minimum .38 Special for revolver.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

WardenWolf
March 1, 2010, 03:36 PM
Here in Arizona I've mostly seen Glocks of some sort, in .45 ACP. I don't know the model. Arizona's law enforcement agencies tend to prefer the .45. I believe officers can choose their sidearm, though.

Maybe slightly off-topic, but I had a friend who worked for an armed security company that required employees purchase their own sidearms. Company policy actually specifically banned Rugers as "unsafe". I found that extremely odd, being very familiar with Rugers myself.

waterhouse
March 1, 2010, 04:21 PM
New cadets is Austin are using S&W M&P .40s. Not sure about the older guys.

I've seen sheriff deputies and plain clothes cops (not sure what city, there are several departments in the area) carrying 1911s.

That way, should things "go totally to ****" (his words, not mine), we have mag compatibility with the rest of the department.

I find this to be an eminently sensible position, and I really wonder why more departments don't do this. Does anyone have any reasoning thus?

When I was in the Border Patrol they taught the same thing. It makes some sense.

The flip side of the coin is that some people shoot one gun better than another. In a deadly force situation, some departments have decided that the officer should have the gun that they are most comfortable with, shoot the best, have the most experience with, etc., and that this trumps magazine compatibility.

wlewisiii
March 1, 2010, 04:39 PM
I looked it up online - they can choose any full size Glock in 9mm, .40S&W or .45 ACP with the NY trigger. A little more open for BUG (S&W, SIG, Glock, Walther and add .380, semi-auto only) though.

William

Warhawk83
March 1, 2010, 05:03 PM
S&W M&P .40 or Glock 17/22

highlander 5
March 1, 2010, 05:07 PM
Glock 22 or 23

Just One Shot
March 1, 2010, 05:10 PM
I don't know and I hope I never find out.
:uhoh:
:)

RyanM
March 1, 2010, 05:25 PM
For my area, central PA, it would be the Glock 22.

Pretty sure it's the same here in western PA. The state parole board uses Glock 17s with 115 grain Gold Dots, or did a couple years ago at least.

loadedround
March 1, 2010, 05:36 PM
Uniformed Officers carry the Glock 22. Dedectives and Chief carry Glock 27's. Were carrying S&W DA 9mm's before the change over two years ago.

7.62 Nato
March 1, 2010, 06:01 PM
Detroit PD just switched from .40 cal Glocks to .40 cal. S&W. I believe those are the M&P. I heard a lot of the Ex-PD Glocks went to Texas where incidentally our Ex-Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick now resides after his trial and conviction.

emtpacker
March 1, 2010, 06:23 PM
Mostly glocks here with the local guys and sheriffs deputies. UAB campus police all using the XD (not sure what caliber). Some forestry guys just switched to Beretta px4's in .40. We see a little of everything around the Birmingham area!

Pate
March 1, 2010, 09:40 PM
NY State Police all carry Glock G37, 45 GAP.

Wishoot
March 1, 2010, 11:50 PM
Cz 75 p-01

I was getting worried that CZ would be left out of this poll.

Eightball
March 2, 2010, 01:24 AM
Whatever the designation is for a .40 S&W Glock.

carbuncle
March 2, 2010, 02:19 AM
Mostly .40 Glocks, but the Washington state Patrol has switched to M&Ps. I'm with them, fantastic ergonomics on those weapons.

Spencer_OKC
March 2, 2010, 03:53 PM
The flip side of the coin is that some people shoot one gun better than another. In a deadly force situation, some departments have decided that the officer should have the gun that they are most comfortable with, shoot the best, have the most experience with, etc., and that this trumps magazine compatibility.

+1

I would rather an officer be armed with the model & caliber of gun they are most comfortable with (within reason of course) than be able to swap mags in some scenario that is not likely to occur. When my dad & uncles worked the road they carried 18 rounds of .357 magnum, and it was a lot easier to shoot at people back then. The modern officer carries upwards of 40 rounds or more if he is carrying a high capacity semi-auto.

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol issues the Sig P226 in .357SIG, Remington 870 shotguns, and Colt AR carbines in 5.56 (not sure which model).

The Oklahoma City Police formerly issued Glock 22s, but traded them all back to Glock for 9mm & .45 ACP models (officers choice) because of feed reliability issues with the Glock 22, especially when equipped with a weapon-mounted light.

Both agencies have lists of approved firearms that can be carried if purchased by the officer.

camsdaddy
March 2, 2010, 04:59 PM
My local police dept just went from Glock 23 and 27 back up to Gen 4 19 and 26. I havent had a chance to shoot the Gen 4 but from what I hear they are pleased. I believe our local Sherriffs dept is using 45 Glocks unsure the model number.

okespe04
March 2, 2010, 05:40 PM
Glocks of some sort.

Free2game
March 2, 2010, 11:01 PM
Not sure about local police but the VA State police carry the Sig P229 DAK in .357 SIG

Ben86
March 3, 2010, 12:25 AM
My county sheriff dept. gets to choose from a large list of approved autos. Most carry the Glock 21 though.

kernelkrink
March 3, 2010, 12:45 AM
Most all the city PDs around here carry Glocks in .40. Full size for the unis and the plainclothes can use the compact if they want. A previous Sheriff, OTOH, seemed to like the .45 and issued the S&W 4506 to his deputies around 10 years ago. Either they are happy with them, or can't afford to replace them because they still carry them.

hirundo82
March 3, 2010, 12:53 AM
This is a very interesting discussion, especially the parts about the departments that allow their officers to select their weapons from a list.

My question is thus:

Our sheriff, who is by and large a just and intelligent man, has decreed that everyone who works patrol in our department will carry either a G22 or G23, and if he or she chooses to carry an ankle gun, it shall be a G27.

That way, should things "go totally to ****" (his words, not mine), we have mag compatibility with the rest of the department.

I find this to be an eminently sensible position, and I really wonder why more departments don't do this. Does anyone have any reasoning thus? I think the reason all departments haven't done this is because, as others have mentioned, it also makes sense for officers to have some flexibility in choosing the sidearm they shoot best.

Besides, if things go to hell in a handbasket and the guy next to you has expended the 50+ rounds most officers carry for their sidearm, without solving the problem, do you really want to give him your ammo to waste too?

vtbluegrass
March 3, 2010, 01:02 AM
I am assuming in my area they have a list to choose from because I have the gambit carried by local guys. I have notice more M&P 40's recently, but I have also seen the G21 G23, the Sig 229 cal?, and even one 1911.

mljdeckard
March 3, 2010, 01:24 AM
Starts with a G.

State, county and munis.

C-grunt
March 3, 2010, 05:23 AM
Glock 22 with 180 grn Federal HST

Glock 21 with 230 grn Federal HST is an option but have to purchase it.

Can also get a 23, 27 or 30 depending on duty type or as backup.

Aslo any Ruger or Smith .357/.38 with a 4 inch barrel or less for back up.

strangelittleman
March 3, 2010, 10:51 AM
I live on the border of two counties, one Sheriff dept. carries the Glock 17 w/ Win Ranger 127gr +p+, the other Glock 22 w/ 180gr Gold Dot.
One city carries the SIG P220 w/ 230grGD, the other has the Glock 22 w/ 180grGD.
The Highway Patrol is in the process of transitioning from the SIG P229 DAK in .357 SIG to the S&W M&P357, both carrying the Win Ranger 125gr jhp
The State Dept. of Corrections carries the S&W M&P40 w/ Rem 180gr jhp but is switching to the 180gr GD for the duty load.
The Tribal Police has the Glock 31 in .357 w/ Win Ranger 125gr JHP.

wvshooter
March 3, 2010, 05:33 PM
WVa State police carry 1911's but I don't know who the manufacturer is. My local cities and counties carry Glock.

LiquidTension
March 3, 2010, 05:41 PM
My department issues the Glock 22. We can carry any Glock chambered in .40 as long as we qualify with it, but we have to purchase it personally. Sometimes I carry a G27 if I know I'm not leaving the office.

RyanM
March 3, 2010, 05:51 PM
Besides, if things go to hell in a handbasket and the guy next to you has expended the 50+ rounds most officers carry for their sidearm, without solving the problem, do you really want to give him your ammo to waste too?

To me, anyway, I think it would be a good idea at a "higher" logistical level. If the crap really hits the fan for an extended period, a standardized police department can just say "everyone has to carry 3 times as much ammo; here's a big pile of Glock 22 magazines which will fit in all three of the guns which we allow you to carry."

One that allows officers to carry whatever they like would be forced to say "here's a big pile of Glock 22 magazines and .40 S&W ammo for the conformists, and everyone else has to fend for themselves." And if the crap has really hit the fans, ammo and mags will be very scarce, so officers with non-standard firearms, who didn't already have a big stockpile of mags and ammo, will suddenly find themselves in a tight spot.

Or let's say it really really hits the fan, and mobs of zombies/rioters/terrorists/whatever are attacking the police station. The guys with standard firearms will be able to keep shooting for a long time, but if you've got something non-standard, your ammo/mag supply may be limited to just what you have on you. And if there aren't enough spare guns around, then the people who carried the guns they shot better, after 50 shots they end up stuck on mag-loading duty for everyone else instead of shooting.

That's my take on it, anyway.

browningpotato
March 3, 2010, 06:30 PM
Just FWIW S&W is giving alot of PD's the new M&Ps. Departments are getting them not necessarily because they are the best out there but because the price is right, free. Our department was going to switch to Glock 19s but instead S&W GAVE us brand new M&P 9s. I personally do not like them at all, the trigger reset is nonexistent and breakdown is unnecessarily complicated.

Anyway, just because alot of departments are "going to S&W" does not mean they are switching because they are necessarily better than what they were using before.

Rexster
March 3, 2010, 06:44 PM
In the southeast quadrant of Texas, local agencies don't tend to issue firearms; LEOs buy our own, within specified guidelines. Texas DPS, which includes state troopers, are issued SIG P226 DAK pistols chambered in 357 SIG.

I am not supposed to discuss department policy, so I can't say where I work and also quote our weapons policy. My agency is a big-city PD, and specifies certain "double action" autos chambered in .40 S&W. My choice, bought with my money, is the SIG P229. The most popular choice among recent rookies has been the S&W M&P, followed by the Glock G22.

Rexster
March 3, 2010, 07:03 PM
A bit of follow-up, after reading some of the other posts:

I do strongly believe in peace officers being given some amount of latitude in choosing their duty handguns. I would consider early retirement if forced to carry a Glock. I did try a G22 for over two years, but could never learn to shoot it with precision, compared to how I had shot my previous duty handguns, from sixguns to 1911s. The Glock's grip is too thick, and it sits so low in my hand, that my trigger finger rubs the frame during the trigger pull. The first affects recoil control, the second affects practical accuracy.

I can indeed fire a qualifying score with a Glock, but am not satisfied with mediocrity.

Silent Bob
March 4, 2010, 10:34 AM
Sherman, TX PD carries Glock 17s, the Grayson County Sheriffs Dept issue some kind of metal-frame classic series S&W, unsure of model. The bailiffs at the courthouse carry all sorts of guns, including one with a nickel Colt Combat Commander, one with what I think is a Kimber, and one that still carries some sort of huge revolver (maybe a .44 mag?)

earlthegoat2
March 4, 2010, 11:21 AM
Oddly, the Kentucky State Patrol uses Glock 35s with the cutout and everything.

Don357
March 4, 2010, 04:45 PM
Unfortunately, most of the local police, Sheriff's dept. and State Police issue Glock 22's in .40S&W, for their patrol officers. However I think the locals and sheriff deputies can buy their own providing it meets certain criteria. I'm not sure about plain clothed officers.

Arkansas Paul
March 4, 2010, 06:01 PM
Glock 22s for Pulaski County Sheriff's Deputys.

jc650
March 4, 2010, 09:21 PM
Mostly Glock 22's in my area. 1 or 2 locals might still have 9mm G17's.

wtfd661
March 4, 2010, 10:50 PM
My Dept issues Sig P220, the County Police carry Sig P220's and the larger City Dept carries a Glock 17 (or 19 for their plainclothes).

Boberama
March 5, 2010, 02:21 PM
Glock 22.

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