Experimenting with "The Load"


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I0sens
February 28, 2010, 11:08 AM
Hi

I am sure that most of you have heard about "THE LOAD".
It's 13 gr of Red Dot that supposedly makes great cheap loads with most rifle rounds.

This week I decided to try it and since I was overly(?) careful I loaded my 303 British with 11 gr and a 150 gr bullet.

Recoil was almost not existent and I clearly heard the bullet hit the target
after the shot (100 yards).

Bullet speed clocked at 1600ft/sec.

Unfortunately I could not find a hole in the target even after a few shots.

Finally I used a big sheet of paper and aimed at the top boarder and there it was - about 16 inches low.

(with "real" loads my Enfield No4 is zeroed in perfectly).



No my questions are:

Is this normal?

How about the infamous sub sonic bullets, that are supposedly so much fun to shoot.

Is it possible to get any accuracy out of them?

I am just wondering if I made a mistake, is worth to experiment more...


Thanks

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dakotasin
February 28, 2010, 11:54 AM
the bullet speed being as low as it is your poi must shift significantly.

whenever i mess around w/ severely reduced loads i switch to a very light-for-caliber bullet (100 - 110 in a 30 cal), and expect poi to still shift.

my experience w/ unique and blue dot in rifle cartridges has not been spectacular as far as accuracy. i have had excellent results by using faster rifle powders and 50% loads, such as h-4895.

Walkalong
February 28, 2010, 11:55 AM
No recoil and slow. Two things that will make a bullet hit lower. Perfectly normal.

Kernel
February 28, 2010, 04:01 PM
POI and accuracy are two different things. An accurate load might still impact your target 16” from your point of aim.

Sounds like you have a scope that’s “dialed in” for one load, and you’re afraid to touch the adjustment dials. Don’t know what kind of reticule you have, but perhaps you could use the lower post as an aiming point - instead of the cross hairs.

Otherwise, you could adjust the scope as necessary for your plinking load. Keep count of the clicks and, if it’s a half ways decent scope, it should return back to the original zero.

fecmech
February 28, 2010, 04:04 PM
As I understand it "The Load" was mainly used with cast rifle bullets as kind of a starting point and benchmark back in the day.

lgbloader
February 28, 2010, 04:30 PM
As I understand it "The Load" was mainly used with cast rifle bullets as kind of a starting point and benchmark back in the day.

The Load is for Lead bullets with gas checks or FMJ's alike. I will try to post Ed's original write up about it.

http://members.shaw.ca/cronhelm/TheLoad.html

I have assembled ammo with 'The Load' and they are fun to shoot.

LGB

I0sens
February 28, 2010, 10:50 PM
Quote: my experience w/ unique and blue dot in rifle cartridges has not been spectacular as far as accuracy. i have had excellent results by using faster rifle powders and 50% loads, such as h-4895.

Dakotasin, I have used with great success 25gr of 4759; just playing with something new. ( They do about 2100 ft/s)

Thanks to the other replies!
I will dial my sights ( Parker hale) to see what the accuracy is. I was just not sure if sooo much lower is possible. (I guess I have to get the physics text book out).

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