Sellier and Bellot ammunition?


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emilianoksa
February 28, 2010, 07:25 PM
Any comments on the quality of these rounds?

I'm specifically interested in 380 ACP and 38 sp.

A gun shop here is dropping its prices on this ammo for a two week period.

I've always stuck to Remington or Winchester in the past, but these prices on S&B are tempting.

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okespe04
February 28, 2010, 07:26 PM
The stuff seems fine to me, I have shot a lot of it in 9mm and .45 acp.

Ragnar Danneskjold
February 28, 2010, 07:30 PM
Their FMJ ammo is pretty good for range practice, and many times much cheaper than other manufacturers.

WardenWolf
February 28, 2010, 07:37 PM
Accurate, always goes bang, feeds reliably. It's good cheap ammo. I'd trust my life to it, and, in fact, was shooting S&B ammo in my Tokarev when I qualified for my CCW. If you can get it, do so. It's some of the best inexpensive ammo you could ever ask for.

Al LaVodka
February 28, 2010, 07:38 PM
I've always found it to be quite decent quality. They are a major European manufacturer. Czech.
Al

tekarra
February 28, 2010, 07:42 PM
Excellent ammunition and can be found for a reasonable price.

Ky Larry
February 28, 2010, 08:05 PM
Decent quality and good price. Also, the brass seems to hold up well to reloading.

481
February 28, 2010, 08:06 PM
Thousands of rounds through my 9mms, .40s, .45s, and AKs (7.62x39) and AR (.223) without so much as a hiccup. Good stuff for stocking up and practice and definitely my favorite.

oldgoat46
February 28, 2010, 08:53 PM
I buy it by the case fom J&G in 40 s&W, 380, 9mm Mak, 44 mag. Never had a misfire that I can remember.

emilianoksa
February 28, 2010, 09:09 PM
Thanks a lot.

That's very reassuring.:)

atlanticfire
February 28, 2010, 09:18 PM
Have been through 2 cases of 9mm, no issues. So far better then win white box.

Pumpkinheaver
February 28, 2010, 09:27 PM
I have used a ton of it in 7.62X39, .223 and .45acp. Never had a problem with any of it.

mgmorden
February 28, 2010, 09:52 PM
I've shot lots of it - both at the range in my handguns and hunting (for .30-06 rounds - it grouped the best out of my Savage 110). Never had any issues.

cskny
February 28, 2010, 10:06 PM
I must be the oddity. I had a bunch from Cabela's in 9mm, specifically the "law enforcement training" stuff they marketed. Had a horrible time with it. FTF about 1 out of 7.

It's the only ammo I EVER had a problem with in this gun. It's possible I just got a bad batch, but....that was unfortunately my experience.

WardenWolf
February 28, 2010, 10:15 PM
cskny, chances are your gun just didn't like it. While S&B ammo is extremely high quality, many guns have at least one type of ammo that they just don't like, for whatever reason. Often it's no fault of the ammo, as the ammo works flawlessly in all other guns, and as long as the gun is otherwise reliable it's no real fault of the gun. They just don't work well together.

cskny
February 28, 2010, 10:17 PM
Agree. No dramatic conclusions were reached on my part, others I know have had success. I just didn't.

mljdeckard
February 28, 2010, 10:41 PM
I've shot a little of their .45, no problems. I have shot a PILE of their bulk birdshot, it was fine.

Strahley
February 28, 2010, 11:23 PM
Doesn't really help you for .380, but I use their buckshot for HD/training in my 870. It patterns very well and has never gave me any problems. I've also had nothing but good things to say about their 9mm loads through my Glock 19

veyec
February 28, 2010, 11:28 PM
Just went through 4 boxes of the exact same stuff in 9mm yesterday at the range without even a hiccup! Great stuff!

wankerjake
February 28, 2010, 11:48 PM
The only real experience I have with it is some of their .38 spl 158gr JFP. Shot nice tight groups with all my revolvers, even the rossi. I also really like the brass for reloading, it seems to last longer than some others.

Deus Machina
March 1, 2010, 01:39 AM
Good stuff, reloads well, and I love having the boxes. I can fit twice as many of those into an ammo can than I can Remington.

RippinSVT
March 1, 2010, 07:49 AM
Shoots well, seems to size and prime a little differently when I reload the brass.

dogngun
March 1, 2010, 07:56 AM
I use ONLY S&B in my .32 autos, and have used it in rifle calibers as well. I think it's first rate, the brass seems very good quality for reloading.

FWIW, S&B .32 ACP is more powerful than any US loading for this cartridge and is extremely reliable and consistant. I can get very close groups out of a PPK-size auto with tiny sights.

mark

TheNev
March 1, 2010, 09:15 AM
I've shot S&B in .25acp, .32acp, .380acp, 9mmMak, .38spl, .357mag .45acp, 7.62x39 and .303 British and have never had a problem with any of them.

I actually go out of my way to get S&B when I have the chance. It's my favorite ammo mfg.

savit260
March 1, 2010, 09:38 AM
Add me to the list of people who've had good experiences with S&B.

If I could find it at a good price, I'd stock up.

doc540
March 1, 2010, 10:23 AM
read the ballistics on their homepage

Their .38 Special isn't rated +P, but it's ballistics are right in the +P range.

I made the mistake of buying some as range ammo for my alloy snubs.

It took two shots to realize how hot it was.

So, I sold all of it for low pressure wadcutters to murder paper.

Topspeed
March 1, 2010, 11:29 AM
I prefer it over other FMJ for target practice. I have found it to be cleaner as well.

mgmorden
March 1, 2010, 12:04 PM
specifically the "law enforcement training" stuff they marketed. Had a horrible time with it. FTF about 1 out of 7.


The Law Enforcement Training part is your issue. All of those rounds - be they handgun, rifle, or shotgun, are loaded with VERY light charges. Usually not enough to cycle the action in a semi-auto.

If you get any ammo marked law enforcement, make sure you're using it in something with a manual action.

nitetrane98
March 1, 2010, 12:40 PM
I've been a through a couple boxes of .380 92gr FMJ. Went bang every time and functioned well in a Browning BDA. I was plinking and didn't wring it out for accuracy. It was MO coke can.

Ronsch
March 1, 2010, 01:44 PM
Put a boatload through mine and my brothers SKS' and never had any issues, plus it was less expensive than just about anything else. Seemed to be a lot cleaner than any of the spam-can loadings.

Bohemus
March 1, 2010, 01:58 PM
I use 9mm Brow. and .22 lr- no problem so far (400 resp. 2500 rounds )

straightShot
March 1, 2010, 09:53 PM
I never had any trouble with .38 special nor the .45 ACP.

m2steven
March 1, 2010, 10:36 PM
I've had particularly good luck with it in 380 and 9mm.

blueridgeglocker
March 4, 2010, 08:42 PM
I have used the 9mm 115 fmj and 12 gauge buckshot and had nothing but good things to say.

Shadow 7D
March 4, 2010, 11:03 PM
I believe some of the big US ammo companies either do, or used to repackage S&B for some european calibers, quality wise, some of the best ammo I shoot, much better than russian, don't know how PPU S&B and NORMA compare, then there is Dynamite / Noble, good shooting stuff altogather.

WaywardAce
March 4, 2010, 11:47 PM
I've shot tons of it in my .357, I'd trust my life with it ...... best cheap ammo out there IMO. In a pinch I wouldn't hesitate to use it as carry ammo.

CornCod
March 5, 2010, 12:00 AM
S&B is the best 7.62X25 ammo for the CZ-52 pistol. It is much better than the eastbloc military surplus, but a lot more expensive.

makarovnik
March 5, 2010, 01:52 AM
I sometimes use it for self defense in my .32's, .380's, and .45acp.

Good stuff for FMJ, seems a little hot.

Azul
March 5, 2010, 01:59 AM
I've had nothing but good experiences with it. .223 and 9mm. S&B is the only stuff I buy anymore for 9mm FMJ.

pcg8r
March 5, 2010, 11:14 AM
I trust it enough to be what I put in my 380 & Mak defense gun(s) .
It is a little sooty though.

JLCook
March 5, 2010, 09:59 PM
S&B is good stuff. I believe that the Winchester Metric is S&b in a winnie box.

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