What NON-1911 auto-pistol has the best trigger?


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MikePGS
March 1, 2010, 11:30 PM
I think most of us would agree that 1911's have triggers. So, what auto-pistol has the next best (or better) trigger?

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earplug
March 1, 2010, 11:35 PM
S&W Model 52, a 38 spl target pistol made to function with the flush mounted wadcutter bullet.
I'm sure there are various European target guns that have very fine SA triggers.

MikePGS
March 1, 2010, 11:39 PM
Good point, yes. Center-fire only please. Ideally something suitable for carry but that criteria isn't necessary.

XxM0nEyMaKeRxX
March 1, 2010, 11:42 PM
well for double action I'm going to say the xdm, I love that trigger. Otherwise for single action, they're all the same to me :/ (unless it's like 10 pounds or something)

GIJOEL
March 1, 2010, 11:43 PM
Many pistols can have very nice triggers, depends on how much you want to spend. I would look at SIG models with DA/SA triggers and most any modern CZ product. If your looking for that glass crisp trigger it will cost a pretty pennie weather it comes out of the box, from a gunsmith, or your basement (I ruined my ruger MKII sear and hammer twice).

GrandmasterB
March 1, 2010, 11:58 PM
CZ's with the Single Action only trigger can be made very nice.

beltjones
March 2, 2010, 12:06 AM
The CZ trigger only gets good if the firing pin safety is removed. It can be smooth and crisp, but with the firing pin safety installed every reset is really long. If you convert an 85 Combat or P01 Shadow to single action with a reduced power hammer spring and competition hammer, you'll have something quite close to a 1911.

John Wayne
March 2, 2010, 12:21 AM
Sig, EAA, and CZ, all produce less-common variants of their popular guns with SA triggers, if you consider that to be ideal. The Browning Hi Power trigger has potential, but is screwed up by a useless mag safety.

9mmepiphany
March 2, 2010, 12:38 AM
for an out of the box SAO trigger - it's a tossup between the S&W 952 or Sig X-5...both in 9mm...i'd take either over a stock 1911

if you want to compare the SA portion of the DA/SA triggers - the best i've felt have been the Sig or CZ

Claude Clay
March 2, 2010, 12:41 AM
H&K P7

a great many of the older sigs

my BHP is very good bordering on excellent.

Runningman
March 2, 2010, 12:48 AM
CZ SA Tactical Sport has to be up there. Mine checked out on a RCBS trigger pull gage at 22-24 OZ when it was new right out of the box.

Kingofthehill
March 2, 2010, 08:00 AM
Steyr M9

gglass
March 2, 2010, 08:09 AM
The M&P line of pistols leave a lot to be desired out of the box with regard to their triggers, but with the $29 Apex Tacical drop-in sear they become AMAZING! I have never felt a DA stiker fired pistol with a better trigger than an Apex Tactical upgraded M&P.

lilidiot
March 2, 2010, 08:23 AM
CZ-82/83.....try it, you'll like it..:D

wbwanzer
March 2, 2010, 09:08 AM
Witness Elite Match has a pretty nice single action only trigger.

Vonderek
March 2, 2010, 03:02 PM
I'll be the first to chime in to say Glock. While it is a bit spongy, it is consistent for each trigger pull. Since you are using the 1911 as your benchmark, that leaves out DA guns (while many have good triggers) as you have the heavy DA to light SA transition after your first shot (not that I find that all that difficult and doesn't bother me in the least). My Glock 19 has a very good trigger and I am very consistent and accurate with that particular gun. I also think the trigger on a Kahr is very good although takes some time to master...it's..a bit different. It is buttery smooth on each shot...not crisp like a good 1911...but light and smooth.

Nick5182
March 2, 2010, 03:06 PM
Sig, EAA, and CZ, all produce less-common variants of their popular guns with SA triggers, if you consider that to be ideal.

I've got an EAA Witness Elite Match SA .45 and It's got one of the best trigger pulls of any SA gun I've fired.

lilidiot
March 2, 2010, 03:34 PM
The O/P wanted to know about none 1911 format triggers!:banghead:

I am also in total disagreement with the O/P that a 1911 has the best trigger, that's just a myth. The 1911 is just the easiest to gnaw at at get a low pull trigger. That don't make it the best in my book.

Va Shooter
March 2, 2010, 04:17 PM
Out of box XDM9mm is outstanding, after trip to gunsmith Ruger Security-Six 357 sweeeeet!

CoRoMo
March 2, 2010, 04:26 PM
...well for double action I'm going to say the xdm...

XDs use a single action mechanism.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/content/action-profile-inside-the-xd

Boats
March 2, 2010, 04:34 PM
The O/P wanted to know about none 1911 format triggers!

I am also in total disagreement with the O/P that a 1911 has the best trigger, that's just a myth. The 1911 is just the easiest to gnaw at at get a low pull trigger. That don't make it the best in my book

Also the easiest to rid of pretravel, overtravel, longish reset, and grittiness, but who's counting?:p

Geno
March 2, 2010, 04:40 PM
Mike!!!!!

How the heck are ya, Buddy?!?!?! I say the vote goes to my Glock 19C that you fired at the range. Let me know when you want to go shooting again. I posted this at another thread:

This is my G19C, with a 2.5 pound trigger. The trigger “re-sets” in 1/8th inch! This pistol has such ease of control that I can fire 3, double-taps per second with it. This is my most recent point-shoot session. This target is 50 rounds, fired at 10 yards, 3-double-taps per second. Others who fire this pistol, with this trigger, are astonished. It will spoil you forever. This is the pistol I take to my Advanced Tactical Shooting courses. It always makes an impression.

Geno

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx63/Geno20101960/Point%20Shooting%20G19C/100_0215.jpg

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx63/Geno20101960/Point%20Shooting%20G19C/100_0219.jpg

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx63/Geno20101960/Point%20Shooting%20G19C/100_0220.jpg

MikePGS
March 2, 2010, 04:57 PM
Hey pal how's it going? Yeah that is a pretty sweet trigger! What is the exact name of that part? Is it just a lighter connector?

Geno
March 2, 2010, 05:24 PM
Mike:

Not sure which trigger connector, etc it is. They had it in stock at Double Action. I asked several times if it was the 3.5 Lbs connector, and he said, "No!! It's a 2.5, and a quick-re-set". When I shoot the G34 then this one back-to-back, I see a massive difference. The G34's trigger is trash.

I have to correct too, it was 7 yards! Not 10 yards. See why I started writing the details on the targets?! You know I qualify for AARP this year.

Geno

Steve C
March 2, 2010, 05:26 PM
I've had trigger jobs done to all my 1911's to bring them down to 4 lbs. Of the center fire pistols I've bought new the ones that have had the best untouched trigger pull are a Sig 220 followed by a Ruger P90. In used revolvers its hands down the Colt Pythons I've owned followed by a Colt Trooper Old Model and a S&W M57.

kamagong
March 2, 2010, 05:32 PM
The Sig X5 has a great trigger. Not as nice as a 1911 mind you, but the best non-1911 one I've ever felt on a pistol.

SwampWolf
March 3, 2010, 06:10 AM
I'll second earplug's candidate: Smith & Wesson's fine Model 52.

Pilot
March 3, 2010, 06:34 AM
By removing the mag disconnect, and some trigger work the Browning Hi Power can have a really nice trigger.

I second the HK P7.

Prion
March 3, 2010, 07:06 AM
Sigs

il_10
March 3, 2010, 10:39 AM
In a sa/da, my cz-82 has one of the smoothest triggers I've ever felt, and you can barely feel it break. On the downside, there's kind of a lot of undertravel and a tiny bit of overtravel, but it's better than any stock sig I've picked up.

The Wiry Irishman
March 3, 2010, 11:17 AM
it's a tossup between the S&W 952 or Sig X-5

I'll second that. Nothing else comes close.

earlthegoat2
March 3, 2010, 12:50 PM
I know you stipulated no 1911s but the since the Para LDA is a different trigger system then my vote goes for that.

Full Metal Jacket
March 3, 2010, 02:38 PM
sigma :uhoh:

Mike OTDP
March 3, 2010, 06:55 PM
For a service-type pistol, either a Pardini GT45 or a Sig P210. If you expand that to the high-end .32 S&W Long target pistols....well, it depends on what you prefer. I like my Hammerli 280.

Big Dave
March 3, 2010, 09:22 PM
HK P7. Especially after Bruce Gray has worked on it.

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