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brfishman
March 2, 2010, 05:19 PM
I am a new member this site. I do not currently own a firearm but am planning on purchasing one soon.

My current interest is in 9mm handguns. What would be the best starter gun to purchase? Which would be the easiest to learn to fire and clean? From your point of view, which is the best made, considering realiability, strength of manufacture, ease of operation, safest to operate?

Any ideas and suggestions will be appreciated.

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Zerodefect
March 2, 2010, 05:35 PM
Glock 19 and 26.

Both will do what you listed, but you'll need a good holster for "safest to operate" and some trigger dicipline.

96projectz24
March 2, 2010, 05:45 PM
I second the Glock 19 and 26, or the 27 with a 9mm conversion - multiple ammo options.

lilidiot
March 2, 2010, 05:49 PM
I would have to agree. The Glock 19 or 26. The Glock is used by more military and police departments that any other service pistol.

When buying guns you would be well served to buy the one that is being copied. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

.380 the best is Walthers

9 mm the best is Glock/Beretta

.45 the best is Colt/Remington

That's my opinion on the matter for what it's worth.

Some of the things in this world to steer clear of are Cheap Guns and Cheap Women. Either one can get you killed real quick!

The rest are just cheap imitations and clone copies of the best.

atlanticfire
March 2, 2010, 05:52 PM
If your looking in the 9mm range I would look at the Browning HP
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/images/051003m.jpg

jeepguy
March 2, 2010, 06:01 PM
beretta 92 fs good accuracy & easy to clean

Enachos
March 2, 2010, 06:06 PM
Glock 19 or Glock 26 (for concealment)! They're tough, reliable, reasonably priced, easy to operate and clean... overall a great gun! You can't go wrong with one. If you're like some of the crowd and you don't like the grip, I suggest you check out Springfields's XD line up since they also have an added grip safety. But a glock is safe enough if you just maintain proper trigger discipline. Which is a must for every gun.

tomwalshco
March 2, 2010, 08:12 PM
Beretta 92 or Glock 19. You'll be shooting the wings off flies with the Beretta at 10 yards very soon. Great, accurate gun. Better trigger than the Glock.

paradox998
March 2, 2010, 08:44 PM
CZ's are great all steel guns. Consider the CZ Rami for a smaller high quality 9mm. You need to decide how important concealed carry is to you. Most 9mm are larger, but have more punch. If you want a very good smaller 9mm, consider a CZ82. They are surplus, typically lightly used by the Czech police. Caliber is 9mm marakov - a little smaller cartridge than a 9mm luger, but with more power than a 380acp. 9mm marakov is eaily available, and fairly cheap. Also CZ82 are about $210!

Nick5182
March 2, 2010, 08:55 PM
I'd have to agree with a Beretta 92 or Glock. I own both and they're both accurate, reliable, and easy field strip and maintain as well as readily available and not extremely pricey.

NG VI
March 2, 2010, 08:56 PM
I am going to throw something completely different out there, and then explain why it is the best choice for you (as far as I know).

The FNP-9, or if you can even find one, anf FNP-9M.

They are a traditional DA/SA with decocker, I believe the new ones have safety built into what was once a decocker only, that will allow you to carry it either cocked and locked, double action with the safety on, or double action with the safety off, when you are ready to and if you want to go that route.

For just general recreational shooting at the range, it allows you to sample every type of trigger setup available except double-action only, they have very nice, smooth, shorter than your average bear trigger pulls, nice resets, did I mention smooth yet?

And they are super reliable, do not have the bulk or odd shapes some pistols are guilty of sporting, looking at you Beretta, Sig, XD, USP... They are trim for a double stack service pistol, and they have superb sights, the best I have ever used on a handgun. The white on them is the brightest I have ever seen, they are super-low profile, and they just seem to magically work.

The grips are not overly long, they are about perfect, not girthy, probably because of the polymer frame with steel magazines, they come with three magazines, and the older ones have two changeable backstraps, the new ones have four. The locking mechanism for the backstraps is very simple, a nice sturdy groove and railish thing they slide onto, tightly, that may be all they need to stay on, but they lock in place with a simple screw. Yep, nothing technologically advanced, nothing that can possibly fail without you doing something drastically stupid to it.

And the magazine release can be switched from side to side if you want to.

Did I mention the smooth trigger pull and excellent sights?

NG VI
March 2, 2010, 08:59 PM
Oh and I love CZs, I have a PCR that is wonderful, and a USP that I really love too, and a Glock 27 I would never willingly part with (but shame on whoever reccomended that one, it is a pretty sharp recoiler for a first gun!), CZ gives you the option of the awesome Kadet Kit, get tons of practice in with a super reliable and accurate .22 top end that uses the same grip and trigger as your 9mm.

frankiestoys
March 2, 2010, 09:05 PM
A Ruger p-95 is a good start i own one and love it , if you want something a little nicer
check out the Beretta px4 or a CZ but they are about $200 more.

rogerjames
March 2, 2010, 09:19 PM
I will suggest Springfield Armory XD9. I have small hands and this weapon fits my hand much better than the glock and the XD9 has an added grip safety. If you are a newbie to handling a loaded weapon regularly, this may be an added safety feature to consider. If you are new to handguns period... and you want a reliable self-defense weapon... I would suggest you start with a revolver. No magazines, no slide, etc. etc., just squeeze and shoot. I carry an automatic most of the time, but my first purchase was a revolver and I am happy that I went that route. The revolver is still the main house gun and the misses is confident to use it if she is home alone.

Pilot
March 2, 2010, 09:25 PM
What is your purpose for owning a gun? Home defense, concealed carry, informal target/range shooting or all of the above?

A good all around 9MM is a CZ-75D PCR or P-01. They will do all three VERY well.

Strahley
March 2, 2010, 09:41 PM
Glock 19, hands down. You won't find a better all-around 9mm pistol, especially as a first pistol

W.E.G.
March 2, 2010, 09:49 PM
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Glock/kool_aidGlock.jpg

Lonestar49
March 2, 2010, 09:57 PM
...

When you go to any gun store, and you want ease of dissassembly, inspection, cleaning, and reassembly, along with, great DA/SA triggers out of the box, not to mention, accuracy, I'd strongly suggest Sig P229 9mm or Beretta Px4 9mm.

Both very soft recoil shooters, both SO easy to take care of, as mentioned above.

IF you can't find a range that rents guns, "then" it should go to the gun that feels the best, most natural, in your grip/hand, and balanced, picking up gun, point to aim, that feels most like it is part of your hand/arm and balance, whatever make or model that, part, turns out to be..

Price will vary:

Sigs: 229 or slightly bigger model 226 come with real night sights, mostly, great CS dept if warranty needed or up the road, replacement parts, extras, etc. 800 - 900 bucks. (decocker-only) no safety, but that will, should, be between your ears (being trained "right")

Beretta Px4 9mm: Usually without night sights, but there are some out there with them from the factory.. 500 - 650 bucks. Comes in F model, decocker and safety, in one, or G model, decocker only.

Either model mentioned will "last a lifetime" and just get better and better over time and rounds fired. But both are the_simplest, easiest, guns to take care of, bar none, out there, speaking from experience, and both are "very forgiving" of one handed shots or weak handed shots, as, they both keep on firing and are not effected by limp-wristing FTVMP.

Sig P229R and 229n/r (non-railed)

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/2_sigs_P229_camo_.jpg

Beretta Px4

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/px4onegg02nj8.jpg


Just remember, prices are nothing short of a "lifetime investment".. so go with what you can afford, given the choice, based on "the_best, most natural, balanced, feel" of, whichever, said gun "you" choose.

Luck,


Ls

Ps.. welcome to the_boards :)

Mad Magyar
March 2, 2010, 10:12 PM
Get yourself a Daewoo, and enroll in a CC class where you'll learn a lot about gun safety, gun laws, maintenance of pistol, and firing on the range...Best $$$ you'll ever spend whether you carry or not...:)

Big Bill
March 2, 2010, 10:29 PM
I agree that a Glock 19 is the way to go to start. It is easy to disassemble; and, it even includes cleaning tools.

MandH2010
March 2, 2010, 10:38 PM
i am very new to blogging and so i don't know if i can/need to start a new thread. i have a question concerning the SW9VE which tye of ammo would work for this gun, do alot of damage, and not pierce right through an attacker? i want this gun for CCW. close range mostly. any suggestions?
is this gun muzzle brake worthy/capable?

i also have a question concerning th 325 PDit looks hefty and nice but i am worried that it is too powerful. is there a slightly less powerful version of this gun? i hear alot of bad things about the grip, is there a good recoil obsorption grip replacement for this without putting a grip cover on it? can i put a muzzle brake on it.

what type of ammo is best if i want to put a big hole in someone and do alot of damage but don't want to damage the walls behind them?

is there such a thing as a high speed draw grip?

NG VI
March 2, 2010, 10:49 PM
Why the hell would you want to put a muzzle brake on a 4" 9mm?

Oh damn sorry buddy forgot the new part...

Not really an easy thing to do, I don't know of anyone making a threaded barrel for the 9VE or 40VE, so you would end up paying well over the cost of the gun to get the barrel alone, then another $50-100 probably for a brake, and get almost nothing out of it, may make the pistol a bit louder, maybe a lot louder, but 9mm doesn't really have much gas to work a brake (compensator in pistol speak, brake for rifles, guns, and artillery), so you wouldn't notice a huge difference in recoil without using some labor-intensive loads developed specifically to maximize the compensator.

And you would turn your defense pistol (?offense? kind of an oddly worded post) into a really crappy competition pistol, bigger than it needs to be, reliant on specific ammunitions, no reason to do it, not on a 9mm Sigma.

High speed draw grip? That's a technique, not a piece of equipment, try shooting in some action pistol competitions sometime, but show up and just observe one of them first, before competing, and try to take a beginners pistol class to make sure you're good to go safety wise, and help you learn good shooting habits.

General Tso
March 2, 2010, 11:00 PM
Glock 17 or 19

dfjaws
March 2, 2010, 11:11 PM
Let's not forget about HK. :D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/drlevenson/p2000-left-full-hi.jpg

rogerjames
March 2, 2010, 11:15 PM
Every one of us that carries a gun will tell you to carry the gun we carry. The vast opinions should give you a place to start, but you must investigate and decide for yourself. Most of the weapons suggested will serve most people. Only you can decide what will serve you.

duns
March 3, 2010, 02:33 AM
beretta 92 fs good accuracy & easy to clean
I chose the Beretta 92FS 9mm for my first pistol. I saw it as a nightstand gun where its considerable size and weight would not matter. I am very pleased with this choice. It's essentially the same pistol that has been used by most of the US military for the last 20 years or so and it has proven reliability and durability. Due to its weight, perceived recoil is low. It's accurate. It's extremely easy to disassemble for cleaning. It's relatively cheap for such a quality gun, probably because it has been produced in such large numbers. Some people might think it's not cool because it is an old design but I like that it is tried and tested. Some people don't like the safety/decocker that projects from the rear of the slide, saying you can hurt your hand on it, but I haven't found any problem with it.

For my 9mm carry gun, I chose a Walter p99C AS (the "C" denotes compact). This is about the same size as the popular Glock G26. I didn't particularly want a Glock mainly because I think they are rather uninteresting. I have had the Walther too short a time to say much about it yet.

I think the Smith & Wesson M&P Compact 9mm could be another excellent choice for a carry gun. I haven't tried one but have been very tempted by what I have read about it.

1jeff
March 3, 2010, 03:33 PM
try as many as you can get your hands on and get the one you are comfortable with .

jfrey
March 3, 2010, 03:40 PM
Try the Kahr CW9. reta pistol for carry.

kludge
March 3, 2010, 04:42 PM
I do not currently own a firearm but am planning on purchasing one soon.

My current interest is in 9mm handguns. What would be the best starter gun to purchase? Which would be the easiest to learn to fire and clean? From your point of view, which is the best made, considering realiability, strength of manufacture, ease of operation, safest to operate?

Any ideas and suggestions will be appreciated.

Get thee to a class. Find an instructor who will let you shoot several.

I love the Sprinfield XD pistols.

easyg
March 3, 2010, 04:57 PM
I am a new member this site. I do not currently own a firearm but am planning on purchasing one soon.

My current interest is in 9mm handguns. What would be the best starter gun to purchase? Which would be the easiest to learn to fire and clean? From your point of view, which is the best made, considering realiability, strength of manufacture, ease of operation, safest to operate?

Any ideas and suggestions will be appreciated.
How about a 9mm revolver?

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM5676.jpg
Taurus 905

You can't get more simple, more reliable, and easier to operate than a revolver....

Open cylinder
Put bullets in cylinder
Closed cylinder
Point at target
Pull trigger repeatedly until all five bullets go bang
Open cylinder
Eject the empty brass

Repeat till hearts content.




But if it simply must be an autoloader....

Glock 19
S&W M&P9c
SpringField Armory XD9 compact

Any of these three will do you just fine.

Sigs and HK are great too, but IMHO, they are just too darn expensive for what you get.


Good luck,
Easy

Boats
March 3, 2010, 05:00 PM
Anything but a Glock as long as it is made by a reputable manufacturer.

Why on earth would anyone want to get a misshapen in the grip pistol as a first handgun? It'd be like asking for first car recommendations and having the clowns chime in "Get a Clown Car, it's what we all drive and most cops are forced to use one too!!"

Meanwhile, the majority of the sane world drives something that fits individual human beings without all of the excuses that come standard with the clown car ownership.

If you ever want to read something funny, take in some accounts of former Glock shooters who suddenly found themselves shooting better than they dreamt possible, some in as few as a handful of minutes, but only after getting away from their Austrian handicap.

easyg
March 3, 2010, 05:07 PM
Anything but a Glock as long as it is made by a reputable manufacturer.

Why on earth would anyone want to get a misshapen in the grip pistol as a first handgun?
It might come as a shock to you Boats, but the Glock grip and grip-angle fits most folks just fine.
I've shot a lot of handguns over the years, and I'm more accurate with a Glock than most handguns I have shot.


Just because Glocks don't fit your hand is no reason to steer others away from them.

Boats
March 3, 2010, 05:15 PM
It doesn't fit a lot of people's hands. Even some of their fans can't stand that aspect of them. The OP deserves a fair warning that if the grip sucks to him it's not his imagination or cross to bear "dealing with it."

Instead he gets "the cops use it rah rah." If even *some* Glock owners would simply post along these lines:

They're not for everyone because of the grip angle and other grip decisions that Glock made aren't commonplace, but if you like the feel of it you have a keeper.

Instead, static is served that the Glock is the answer for everyone, regardless. I offer the counterpoint--A Glock is good for no one unless they adopt it on its own merits after deciding whether they can live with the horrendous ergonomics.

easyg
March 3, 2010, 05:29 PM
The OP deserves a fair warning that if the grip sucks to him it's not his imagination or cross to bear "dealing with it."
Excellent point.
But I think that most folks can determine for themselves if the gun is comfortable to shoot or not.


I offer the counterpoint--A Glock is good for no one unless they adopt it on its own merits after deciding whether they can live with the horrendous ergonomics.
The exact opposite of an excellent point.

What you see as "horrendous ergonomics" I see as fantastic ergonomics.
To me, and plenty of other shooters, the Glock is very comfortable and very natural to shoot.
Again, just because they don't work for you does not mean that anything is inherently wrong with them.

If you tried on some Merrell shoes and they felt awful on your feet, it would be dishonest to run around claiming that Merrell makes shoes that have "horrendous ergonomics".

wbwanzer
March 3, 2010, 05:36 PM
Beretta makes a fine gun in my opinion. Here's an Italian made 92FS:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wbwanzer/Beretta92FSInox005.jpg

Stoeger (Beretta) makes an excellent gun for the money in the Cougar:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wbwanzer/Cougargrips001.jpg

CZ makes some very fine and well thought of pistols:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wbwanzer/CZ75B002.jpg

And of course SIG makes some wonderfull guns too, for a little more money:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wbwanzer/KittinsApr2009001.jpg

Confederate
March 3, 2010, 06:03 PM
Greetings, and welcome.

The Glocks are decent handguns, but in my opinion they're not a good first handgun. You should be specially trained in their use if you're going to buy one -- and just about every police department and agency that has gone to the Glocks has seen a sharp increase in accidental discharges. They have no safeties and, in my view, they need one.

Although hi-capacity 9mm handguns have a great appeal, I highly recommend the Ruger Mark II/III .22LR. Ammo is cheap, easily obtained, and the Ruger can fire ten shots in about four seconds, and put them in a dead center mass.

A great second gun is a good .357 mag revolver (which shoots both .357 and .38 Special) and then the 9mm is an outstanding gun to buy.

Just my opinion, mind you...use it or lose it. My favorite 9mm is the S&W 5906, which no longer is made. It's stainless steel, takes 20 shot clips, is safe and accurate -- and can usually be found used. The craftsmanship is excellent. Berettas also are fine, as are Sigs.

MandH2010
March 3, 2010, 07:25 PM
Okay here's another gun i am looking for with these requirements

Revolver
9MM - 45ACP
Blackened stainless
Hi-Viz sights
4" Barrel
Single/Double Action
good grip
not too much recoil (i hate recoil)

if you have seen a gun matching this description please call 555-the-wanted

NJGunOwner81
March 4, 2010, 03:34 AM
Hello BRFishMan!

Let me start off by welcoming you to a great board! I've never seen a board with so many VERY knowledgeable people willing to help anyone with just about anything ... so you'll never be at a loss for opinions!

Onto your question ... getting people's opinions on what to buy is great but remember this is YOUR gun and it has to be something that YOU like and that YOU are comfortable with! You're asking questions that, to me, seem out of order for what you want to do.

This is your first handgun so everything you do is going to be a learning experience and a gun is a good size investment $$$ so I am going to turn this around on you! My main goal is to try to make sure you don't end up with Buyer's Remorse ... so just try to bear with me on this little rant here!


1. What kind of gun do YOU like? I'm not talking about if the gun is easy to clean or if it's a good price or a good name ... are you drawn more to a revolver or a semi-auto? BOTH have advantages and disadvantages and you will get people on this board who LOVE revolvers and HATE autos and the other way around. This isn't about them ... it's about YOU!

I'm going to say this and I KNOW I'm going to get beat up on this but I don't care because it matters to you in how you ... (know it sounds corny but) ... how you bond with your gun! When I decided to get my first gun I went online to all the gun makers I could find and I looked at all their different guns. You know how I decided between a revolver and a semi-auto? I thought the semi looked cooler! That's it! No real research, no polling ... I liked the look of the gun! Period! My heart was set on a semi and you could have given me a revolver ... BRAND NEW & FREE and I just wouldn't have loved it like I love my semi now!

Once you decide for sure between a revolver and semi that helps you big time because you reduced your possibilities by half!

2. Caliber! You said you were interested in a 9MM ... why? I have no problem with 9MM and if that's what you really want that's cool. But don't make choices based on what others say. Have you fired guns before ... or been around them? If you havn't then every caliber is going to make you jump and flinch a little when you first shoot it ... personally I think what you hear from a movie gun is entirely different than an actual gun! I picked a 45 for my first gun and until I got used to it I flinched ... it's loud ... and whether it's a 9MM, 44MAG, 10MM, 45 or whatever ... they're all going to go boom and get you at least once if you're new :p it's the nature of the beast!

I have a 45 ... not so much because it's what I wanted or knew about but more so because of the style of gun I chose. I picked a 1911 style semi-auto and most of them (Not all) but most are chambered for a 45 caliber round. And I tell you something ... when I first took it onto the range I was a little scared! Listen, I'd never fired a gun in my life and there I was standing there with this big 45 and from what I heard from people on boards a 45 had a really hard kick to it. I was so scared of the gun whipping out of my hands, hitting me in the head, then the gun falling to the floor with a loud thud and having everyone stare at me like I was the biggest tool on the planet. But you know what, it wasn't that bad! ALL regular type handguns will have some recoil but all are manageable so if you're getting a 9MM because you heard somebody say a 45 will break your wrist it just isn't so!


I realize that I have written more than others so I'm going to leave it here for now until you reply back! People on this board will tell you what guns shoot better or what the best ammo is or best way to sight in a gun but you know what is REALLY going to affect your shooting skills??? BUYER'S REMORSE! THAT WILL KILL YOU! If you have buyer's remorse and don't like the gun or have a case of the would-a/could-a/should-as you will never be truly comfortable with the gun and then you won't practice as much with it and you'll wind up with a VERY expensive paperweight! Maybe people won't or don't want to admit it but they know I'm right on this! If I invented a pink, Barbie, glitter gun in the shape of a triangle and it was found to be the most accurate, reliable gun on the planet you'd still have a ton of people saying bite me, I'm sticking with my gun! Because they LOVE it!

I hope it helps ... I hope it gives you something to think about! Again, I am sorry for the length of the message but I want you to REALLY be happy with your pistol when you get it!

Respectfully,

Frank
NJGunOwner81

riceboy72
March 4, 2010, 03:41 PM
Welcome to THR!! When it comes to selecting your first pistol, quite a few things come into play so that you can make the right choice, and feel good about it. When you ask a question such as yours, you will get many different answers which are based upon many things depending on the person. Among them, experience level, purpose of the pistol, ergonomics, size of the person, and - believe it or not - where you live as certain states prohibit the ownership of certain firearms, or magazines that hold higher than 10 rounds, can affect your decision. Take your time and do not make a hasty purchase.

One of the best things I would recommend, especially if you are a new shooter, would be to go and seek professional instruction. It's well worth the time, and not only does it help with shooting, it can also help you understand what to do should you have to use your pistol and what liabilities go along with it. Go to a gun range that has the option of renting pistols and shoot as many as you can that interest you; make sure it fits YOUR needs and not that of your buddy who goes with you, or the guy one lane over who thinks his pistol is the best.

There are many good options out there, and plenty of quality pistols can be found at great prices once you make up your mind. Invest the time and money with a good instructor, and once you have an idea of your abilities, let that tailor your pistol selection. Double or single action? Double stack or single stack? Safety or no safety? Only you can decide that, and you have many great options to check out as offered by the members here. Things like learning to clean the gun should be considered, but it's not as important as picking a gun that works for you. Once you find a gun you like, cleaning and field stripping it becomes one of the easiest things you need to worry about.

Let us know what you decide, and here's to safe shooting!!

SalchaketJoe
March 4, 2010, 04:12 PM
I just purchased a CZ Compact D PCR, and I would recommend it highly. Myself and my wife have put 400 trouble free rounds through it so far and I swear the trigger gets smoother with every pull. Very accurate and easy to control. You owe yourself just to put one in your hand, for me it felt like no other pistol. My hand just melted around the grip.

I love the Glock 19, but it just doesnt feel the same.

Boats
March 4, 2010, 04:21 PM
If you tried on some Merrell shoes and they felt awful on your feet, it would be dishonest to run around claiming that Merrell makes shoes that have "horrendous ergonomics".

If Merrell were the only company out there selling footwear where even a sizeable fraction of Merrell's own fans were cutting, burning, and dremeling on their shoes to make them more comfortable to wear, I do believe it would not be irrational to conclude that Merrell is doing something wrong as regards proper shoe fit.

AJChenMPH
March 4, 2010, 04:24 PM
To the OP: many recommendations already, all of them good. Safety all boils down to The Four Rules, so as long as you follow them all else is generally personal preference (safeties, DA/SA vs. DAO triggers, etc.). Best bet is to handle as many as you can (and if you're lucky, shoot them too) and choose one based on what feels best in your hand.

How about a 9mm revolver?

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM5676.jpg

Taurus 905

You can't get more simple, more reliable, and easier to operate than a revolver....

Open cylinder
Put bullets in cylinder
Closed cylinder
Point at target
Pull trigger repeatedly until all five bullets go bang
Open cylinder
Eject the empty brass

Repeat till hearts content.
Missing one huge thing: the 905 uses moonclips to hold the rimless 9mm round, so it's not as simple as just loading up rounds and firing them. There are a few 9mm revolver threads in the Revolver forum that have more info.

easyg
March 4, 2010, 06:02 PM
Missing one huge thing: the 905 uses moonclips to hold the rimless 9mm round, so it's not as simple as just loading up rounds and firing them.
Actually, it is just that simple.

The 905 works just fine with or without the moonclips.
However, if you're not using the moonclips you do have to eject the brass casings one at a time.

EMT40SW
March 4, 2010, 10:37 PM
Get a Glock 19, if you do not like it sell it.

Shadow 7D
March 4, 2010, 11:07 PM
As you can see, many options, and many opinions, go find what is avaible and see if you can find a range to rent and try out the guns to see what you like.

TexasBill
March 4, 2010, 11:49 PM
Glocks got into a lot of police departments for the simple reason Glock was practically giving the guns away. They still have a very good discount for LEOs. Glocks have endured a number of torture tests. So have other pistols, including mud, water, 100,000-round endurance tests. Glocks are not typically chosen by Special Operations units that have the freedom to specify non-standard-issue sidearms. Glocks have had a history of problems, though not all of them were the fault of the gun.

On the other hand, Glocks serve thousands of people very well, including many who stake their lives on them. They are dependable pistols and, like most handguns, are probably more accurate than the vast majority of people who shoot them.

Glocks do have some quirks like an unusual grip angle. Some people like it, some don't.

Basically, the Glock is the most polarizing handgun on the market. There doesn't seem to be anyone who doesn't either praise them to high heaven or consider them to be among the poorest excuses for a firearm that's come down the pike.

Manual safeties are a matter of personal taste. Glocks don't have them but neither does the FNP-9, which I consider one of the finest pistols on the market. When it came time for me to get back into guns, the first pistol I bought was an FNP-9. But that was after I had visited multiple gun stores and handled a number of different pistols (including the Glock).

I have an equally high opinion of the Beretta PX4, which is one of the most pleasant centerfire autos I have ever fired. I don't own a SIG Sauer P226, but it's another extremely well-regarded pistol and one I keep telling myself I need to add to my collection.

9mm is a good round. It's more than adequate for self-defense, generally more available and less expensive than either .40 S&W or .45 ACP and, in a full-size pistol, has very manageable recoil.

As several have mentioned, this is a journey none of us can take for you. We can tell you about the paths we've trodden but that doesn't mean they are right for you. But that's part of the fun; you get to try out all sorts of pistols for the first time.

If you can find a range that rents guns, try a few. If there's an instructor who supplies firearms, take the class (instruction is always a good idea and something you won't regret).

Gato MontÚs
March 5, 2010, 12:11 AM
^^^+1000

TexasBill hit it right on the head. If you take anything away from this thread, let it be this post.

*** If it fits your hand, the Glock 19 is an excellent all around choice IMO.

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