Questions about S&W 29-3


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rocinante
March 2, 2010, 08:55 PM
I just got a 1982 6.5 inch blued 29-3 for 500. It looks like it was maybe fired a few times and put back in the safe and forgotten. Bluing is primo and not even a drag line on back of the cylinders. I did good. Right?

Doing a little research there is some dissing this model because it changed some of the manufacturing and features from 29-1 and 29-2 generations. Just eyeballing and handling it it looks quality to me. Anything inherent to the model I ought to look out for?

Where is the serial number on the pistol? I see something on the swing out arm but it doesn't look like a serial number. Looking at it more where is the model number? It says MADE IN U.S.A, MARCAS REGISTRADAS, SMITH & WESSON, Springfield, MASS. Do I have weird export gun?

I love that it isn't covered in lawyer warnings. Smith and Wesson and 44 magnum is enough notice for me.

I assume this is pre safety lock mechanisms but it is safe to carry with all 6 cylinder's loaded?

I have never had a double action revolver before and the hammer only has one position. My Ruger single actions have three I think, colts four. Are all double actions like that?

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rocinante
March 2, 2010, 09:14 PM
Looking it over again with my glasses I found the serial number and model number inside the frame by the cylinder pivot.

Further research shows the spanish is not uncommon probably arising from the time when S&W was owned by a brazilian company or maybe for the export market.

unspellable
March 2, 2010, 09:39 PM
Your revolver should be equipped with a hammer block that prevents the hammer mounted firing pin from reaching the cartridge primer unless the trigger is held back making it safe to carry with all six chambers loaded and hammer down. (Assuming everything is working properly. The main thing to watch out for is that the revolver will operate with the hammer blocking bar missing. Look for a little bar that rises up in front of the hammer if you hold the hammer back, pull and release the trigger and allow the hammer back down slowly.)

The part that mystifies me is the 6.5 inch barrel. A dash 3 ought to have a 6 inch barrel.

If all is as it should be, I'd say the price is such that neither buyer nor seller should complain.

Terms: The piece that swings out carrying the cylinder is the yoke if it's a S&W, it's a crane if it's a Colt. There will be no half cock notch as found on most SA revolvers.
The serial number is on the bottom of the grip portion of the frame and probably hidden by the grips. On later production revolvers such as yours the serial number also appears on the frame under the yoke, but in the freakishly rare event the numbers don't agree the one on the bottom of the frame rules.

rocinante
March 2, 2010, 09:53 PM
unspellable I just assumed it was 6.5 inch by eyeballing and what I had read about 29s. Could be 6, looks slightly longer than my ruger vaquero 5.5 barrel.

Found the serial number by the yoke.

jhvaughan2
March 2, 2010, 11:13 PM
I am so envious of you. I was traveling this morning or I may have beaten you to that one. :banghead: You got a great deal.
(If you want to make a quick $75 profit this week let me know ;) )

Measure the barrel from the front of the cylinder to the muzzle. it should be 6".
The other numbers in the crane are assembly numbers with no real meaning. I don't have my book with me to lookup the exact changes, but a 29-3 is not one anyone should talk bad about.

It is safe to carry fully loaded. The hammer has only two positions cocked and down this is case for all modern DA smiths.

Marcas Recistradas is normal on the S&W roll markings. This was added many years ago to differentiate from counterfeits.

Oh, and did I mention :banghead:

rocinante
March 2, 2010, 11:34 PM
jhvaughan2 i assume you are a GONer too. I live a couple miles from the seller. I bought a couple mausers from him last summer too. He has another 29 but I don't know if he is selling it. send him a message. If you shoot at bullseye in cumming or the range in norcross meet up with me and i'll introduce my new baby to you.

I have been doing some reading here on 29s and some think you shouldn't shoot really hot loads in an N frame. I also get the gist that in some of the 29-3 and later 44 magnums they added enhancements to handle hot loads better?

I am just sitting here with it propped up against my monitor. Sho nuf is purty. HA I never thought I would see the day when I thought guns were prettier than girls but this one is a beauty.


One thing puzzles me about S&W revolvers. Why aren't the hammers and triggers blued too? They look unfinished.

.45FMJoe
March 2, 2010, 11:36 PM
jhvaughan2 i assume you are a GONer too. I live a couple miles from the seller. I bought a couple mausers from him last summer too. He has another 29 but I don't know if he is selling it. send him a message. If you shoot at bullseye in cumming or the range in norcross meet up with me and i'll introduce my new baby to you.

I have been doing some reading here on 29s and some think you shouldn't shoot really hot loads in an N frame. I also get the gist that in some of the 29-3 and later 44 magnums they added enhancements to handle hot loads better?

I am just sitting here with it propped up against my monitor. Sho nuf is purty. HA I never thought I would see the day when I thought guns were prettier than girls but this one is a beauty.


One thing puzzles me about S&W revolvers. Why aren't the hammers and triggers blued too? They look unfinished.
They are case hardened.

Oro
March 2, 2010, 11:43 PM
Marcas Recistradas is normal on the S&W roll markings. This was added many years ago to differentiate from counterfeits.

Correct, it was added about 1921.

rom the time when S&W was owned by a brazilian company

S&W was foreign-owned by an English firm during the 90's (they are the ones who made the deal with the Cilnton DOJ). S&W was never owned by a Latin American company. For a while the company that owned S&W also took a controlling stake in Taurus. But they were an American company.

One thing puzzles me about S&W revolvers. Why aren't the hammers and triggers blued too?

Because those parts are subject to more wear than the cosmetic sides and external elements of the revolver. Case Hardening (or flash chroming on some models) offers superior hardness and durability. A blued trigger would wear the finish off in no time, and the sear and wear areas internally would wear out of spec in short order. if you ever see a S&W revolver re-finished with a blued trigger/hammer, run away.

Confederate
March 3, 2010, 01:02 AM
The Model 29/629 were just never enjoyable for me to shoot. I wish I could afford to shoot them more than I have, but they are expensive. They'll also handle any factory load (which is plenty hot), but they're not as robust as the Ruger Redhawks. Alas, most factory loads aren't particularly accurate based on grouping sizes I've seen published.

Your Model 29 (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/150145_large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://guns4u.info/%3Fcat%3D95&usg=__O218CxNYmba2MTKnM48wv3BDza8=&h=300&w=540&sz=22&hl=en&start=3&itbs=1&tbnid=kHSExooL2VRG7M:&tbnh=73&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3DS%2526W%2B29%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1) is fine and you got an excellent price. The fellow you bought it from may very well be willing to sell the other one, as the older one generally gets, the less they enjoy shooting it. Elmer Keith was a notable exception!


http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/150145_large.jpg

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The Lone Haranguer
March 3, 2010, 01:36 AM
Doing a little research there is some dissing this model because it changed some of the manufacturing and features from 29-1 and 29-2 generations.
It is just less desirable to collectors because it did away with the barrel pins and chamber recesses as cost cutting measures, and also came from a time when S&W became foreign-owned. It does not affect its usability or shootability at all.

madcratebuilder
March 3, 2010, 08:16 AM
It is just less desirable to collectors because it did away with the barrel pins and chamber recesses as cost cutting measures, and also came from a time when S&W became foreign-owned. It does not affect its usability or shootability at all.
+1

The 29-3 is a fine revolver. The 29 is a dream to shoot with .44spl, or mag cases loaded to .44spl levels. Hot loads well loosen the screws and are really pointless.

rocinante
March 3, 2010, 09:09 AM
The way I figure it this particular handgun will end up more of a show and tell safe queen. I already practiced my Dirty Harry dialog on my boys. It definitely got a desired WHOA WOW reactions from them. My 13 year old is like when are we going to the range with it. I will definitely take it to the range a few times but I have plenty of other handguns I don't mind putting wear and tear on that I enjoy shooting. So far 45ACP, 38 spec and 22LR are my mainstays. I have a couple ruger single action 357s and while it is a rush that round is super sonic loud and has a lot of recoil and muzzle flip. I can image 44 magnum is like that just factored up quite a bit. I will soon find out :)

I am happy with it and truthfully I do not have anything I collected for anything other than just utilitarian reasons that is THE gun. My P38 is a P1. My Colt 45 peacemakers are Ruger Vaquero 357s, my coach gun a chinese knockoff, my SKS is yugo, my 1911 a auto ordinance, my AK a saiga, my K98 a 24/47. None correct but close enough for me. To all but the finely tuned connoisseur collector this is the Dirty Harry gun. It IS a S&W 29, genuine Americana bad to the bone icon.

OldCavSoldier
March 3, 2010, 12:59 PM
...and, as you get older, if you want to shoot it, you can always load up with .44 Specials.....not as big a BANG or as much recoil, but just as much fun...........

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