Opinions on Customizing Ruger MKIII Competition


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Southernjeepn06
March 3, 2010, 02:14 AM
Hey yall, I'm Brian. I have a brother on this forum and he got me to join. I shoot NRA Sillouette matches as often as I can (which hasn't been that much until lately). I want to start shooting again and I'd like some ideas of what I can do to my Ruger Mark III Competion model. Any opinions or what yall might do to this gun. We are shooting at 45,60,75, 100 yrds.

Ideas: Grips (not laminated wood), or is factory with thumbrest good enough
Trigger job
New Red Dot or Mil Dot scope.

Pictures of gun
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh283/southernjeepn06/Guns/01-13-08_1637.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh283/southernjeepn06/Guns/01-13-08_1638.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh283/southernjeepn06/Guns/01-13-08_1639.jpg

What I'm thinking for grips (which ones would you prefer)
https://www.volquartsen.com/pictures/800x300/144-mkiii-volthane-grip.jpg
OR
http://www.hornetproducts.com/images/product/Thumbnails/HO82060.jpg

Also any links someone can show me for more options. Here is the Volquarsten site I found
https://www.volquartsen.com/category/13-accessories-and-upgrades/4-mkiimkiii

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Southernjeepn06
March 4, 2010, 12:24 PM
Anyone?

Occam's Razor
March 4, 2010, 12:39 PM
Grips are very subjective. You have to decide based solely on how they fit you. Every person on this board could tell you which grip he or she would prefer and you still wouldn't have any better basis for a decision than you do now. You need to go some place that has both (or just order both) and see which on suits you.

Altamont Grips (http://altamontco.com/products/pistol/ruger/mark2.php)

As far as the other issues, a good trigger job couldn't hurt. How do the optics you have now work for you? If you aren't having misses that you can attribute to optics then why spend more money on that, spend it on something really important like more guns. If you do need different optics, then it comes down to what you prefer and what you can afford. I can't help you much with suggestions there because I am not a big fan of glass sights so hopefully sombody who does know something about them can chime in.

lions
March 4, 2010, 03:36 PM
The bottom picture looks like the Hogue grips I have on my MKII. I have no complaints, they fit my hand well and are very comfortable. I have had them for about 5 years or so and they show no appreciable wear.

Baphomet
March 4, 2010, 04:42 PM
A proper trigger job is essential on the MKII/III's, in my opinion. Once all the creep and over-travel (especially the latter) is removed, and you get the pull down to around two or three pounds, you'll be shocked at how much better you can shoot it.

My project Ruger MKII:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/Baphomet/RugerMKII3.jpg?t=1267734714


Typical target on any given day (5 rounds at 25 yards off a bag/rest):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/Baphomet/Target002.jpg


And don't be fooled by the fact it's got a Voquartsen "upper" on it in that pic. I'm 99% sure that target was shot with the stock receiver in place. In my experience with the MK's, it's ALL about a decent trigger and a good red-dot if you want to be punching ragged holes at long range. From there it's convenience items like better grips and extended bits and pieces. Although the extended mag release is almost must-have if you're planning on using over-size target grips that extend past the bottom of the grip-frame.

ArmedBear
March 4, 2010, 04:58 PM
I have a Mark II Target (essentially the same as the Mark III Competition).

It wears a 2X Leupold pistol scope on Ruger rings and mount, but I just got an Ultradot and with the Ruger mount I figure on being able to choose which optic I want, or the sights.

Internally, I had a gunsmith de-burr all the holes, and replace pretty much all the little parts including the trigger with Volquartsen replacements, and "work" the Volquartsen trigger and sear.

For grips, I got Herretts that look a lot like Baphomet's above.

The "upper" is bone stock and I have yet to see any reason to change it out. It shoots exactly where the crosshairs are at 25 yards, and rested, it can shoot one-ragged-hole groups no sweat with Mini-Mags or Federal Gold Medal Target (not the expensive "Match" stuff, just decent 40 grain LRN HV ammo).

I've had the thing that way for less than a year, and it's beaten a lot of 41s and High Standards in local competition. IMHO the Ruger is well worth fixing up.

WRT the grip, my score jumped up when I got the Herretts. Having a hand-filling grip with a heel and a big fat thumbrest makes it a lot easier to hold the gun steady, especially after an hour of shooting for score. I got the grip last.

If I had it to do over again, I'd get the grip first. Also, the stock trigger can be 'smithed to feel really good, for cheap, by a knowledgable 'smith, or yourself if you know what you're doing.

lexjj
March 4, 2010, 05:05 PM
Volquartsen sear, Volquartsen trigger with pre and post travel adjustments, and Clark bushing. That should cost about $60, and the parts drop in.

ArmedBear
March 4, 2010, 05:46 PM
That should cost about $60, and the parts drop in.

Yeah, but they work a lot better if you don't just do that.

HisSoldier
March 4, 2010, 05:48 PM
I removed the worthless magazine safety, did a trigger job, removed the loaded chamber indicator, reduce the hammer spring strength for the trigger job. The front sight on mine has come loose several times and needs to be secured with red loctite if I want to depend on it. I put a large pad on the trigger to spread out the trigger finger contact area. It's very accurate!

Shadow 7D
March 4, 2010, 05:52 PM
My google fu
http://http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?tabid=9&categoryid=17482&categorystring=10636***10560***9142***

Between them and Brownells, just about anything you could want or want to do.

BUT please remember, on a MK series of pistol the upper is the "reciever" so changing to a custom barrel/upper requires a FFL

Forgot to add, I shoot mine last, esp after a taxing time at the range shooting my little tiger (look like mouse, speak like bear) I finish off the session with a little bullseye practice to get focused on sights with worn out hands, still suprises me that I can keep my shots inside the 3 ring at 15m, I know that I could do MUCH better with a little work, but that is an out of box MK3 shooting winchester wildcat .22

ArmedBear
March 4, 2010, 11:01 PM
Here's the pistol described above. Again, I think the gun is WELL worth upgrading.

Southernjeepn06
March 5, 2010, 01:19 AM
http://http//www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?tabid=9&categoryid=17482&categorystring=10636***10560***9142***
Link does not work.

I wanted to do this "replace pretty much all the little parts including the trigger with Volquartsen replacements, and "work" the Volquartsen trigger and sear." and have a knowledgeable gunsmith to do it. A guy at the range shooting a charger added a target trigger to his Ruger Charger that was flat and I really liked the feel of it.

Right now I shoot CCI standard velocity but have a variety of ammo (box or two) but I can't afford the target stuff. Money is an issue so spending less than $150 is a must. I went with the rubber grip option over the wood because of the price. I hate the red-dot i have now. What kind is that Baphomet? or the scope u have armed bear? I really like the scoped charger my friend had but since it was a 3x9-40, it moved around a lot because of the magnification. I'd like something like Armedbear. I "hold" on target which a little over the back of the ram at 100 yrds and it's throwing me off bad. When I was adjusting the red-dot with the clicks, it was up to 39 clicks for 100 yrds and after loosing track one time, I had to re-zero for pigs and just "hold" for the different distances.

Having a hard time finding which Herretts grips you are talking about?

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