[chevyforlife21]

i seen one in a shop today used for 380. i dont know the model but i picked it up and it felt very nice and fit me well. are these good? i see they are made in turkey. i had a stoegor condor but sold it after i got bored of it.

[ArmedBear]

That's who makes the failure-prone Mossberg Silver Reserves.

[chevyforlife21]

really? ive handled those many times and i love them. my stoeger had such a stiff safety spring sometimes id have to use two hands to take it off, and thats not good in the woods, ive scared away a few animals cuse of it. but it would be mostly for clays if i got it.

[ArmedBear]

They are attractive, and they handle well. They even come with a heeled buttpad for mounting, a higher-end feature lacking on many more expensive guns. However, I knew a number of people who bought them, and they have recurring problems, with firing pins mainly.

This might be a manageable problem if you keep spares. The people I knew who had them ended up buying Brownchesterettas instead.

CDNN has some deals going on Winchesters, Brownings and Lanbers right now. Worth a look.

[chevyforlife21]

those are way outa my price range i cant even afford a silver reserve or id have one lol.

[oletymer]

Go and buy it, then post you request for answers for the problems you encounter.
These are DUH guns.

[docjonsn]

I have one (silver reserve 12 ga.). I like mine I have shot about 100 rounds of trap and 15 or so rounds of sporting clays. It has also taken some 30ish ducks and a dozen geese the only thing I did was take of the auto safety (every time you open the action the safety resets not so good for trap shooting) that and I added a but pad spacer. I have a set of spare firing pins but I haven't needed them. I do need to order a new set of springs but considering how much I have used this shotgun thts not to bad.

Pete

P.s. the shotgun was a gift from my wife.

[ArmedBear]

I do need to order a new set of springs but considering how much I have used this shotgun thts not to bad.

After a few thousand rounds?

That's not too GOOD, either... Still, that's about the best report I've ever heard about the things, and like I said, I'm not talking about Internet rumors.:)

I'm glad yours works.

[chevyforlife21]

docjon if you only have 200 rounds threw the mossberg and it needs parts already thats not a good gun

[ArmedBear]

No, he said rounds of Trap.:)

25 shots per round. Sporting clays is 50 or 100. So, on the outside, we're looking at about 4000 shots through the thing. 5000 at the very, very most, depending on shots-per-goose and all that.

That's MUCH better than the people I've known, who had breakdowns, not just weak springs, at 2000 rounds or so, pretty consistently. If you add it up, you realize that 2000 rounds through a shotgun is not a lot, and happens sooner than you think it will.:)

The standard for a production O/U from one of the known names would be 50,000 to 100,000 rounds, before you have to pay any attention to the gun other than cleaning and greasing it.

[oneounceload]

Gotta agree with AB on this - I replaced some springs on my browning - when it hit the 90,000+ mark, not the 4-5000 mark.

Most of these really cheap guns tend to have horrible triggers, and the svelteness of a fence post

[ArmedBear]

I don't know. Some of those cheap shotguns have a pretty good trigger on one barrel or the other.:D

Having shot a bunch of Trap with a fair amount of success with an untouched 870 Express, I don't know that an "awful" trigger is so terrible on a shotgun, provided it's consistent. It's the short 3.5 lb. on one barrel, and creepy 8.5 lb. on the other, that will really screw you up! It's like switching guns every shot.

[chevyforlife21]

ohh rounds of trap, not rounds of ammo.

[ArmedBear]

When you add it up, cheap O/Us really aren't all that cheap.

If you buy a used B-gun, and treat it well, you can most probably sell it for what you paid for it, after shooting it for a few years, with no repairs needed -- especially if you shoot it casually. "Seriously" would be >50,000 rounds a year, BTW. Most of us, even if we shoot a lot, shoot "casually." So if you look at it that way, shooting a good production O/U is free!:D