Which do you think is the better defensive handgun...G26 or SP101


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Doug S
March 4, 2010, 11:41 AM
I've got a second G26 that I purchased as a backup in case something ever happened to my CCW G26. It's been sitting in a safe for 5 years, and I'm tempted to trade it for a SP101 in 357. I'm hesitant though, because the G26 is my favorite handgun, and also because I don't want to regret making the trade (especially as Glock seems to be transitioning to Gen 4, and I like the Gen 3 better). Just wondering which gun the people on these forums would choose (if they had to choose one) for defensive purposes. I do like the idea of the SP101 for a woods gun, but I'm pretty sure I prefer the G26 for general CCW or even HD.

So I guess my question is, would you keep a duplicate G26 in a safe, just in case your primary ever went down, or would you trade it for an SP101?

I should probably mention that the second G26 is actually kept with a loaded magazine in a safe in my "Man Cave". It doesn't get carried or shot, but it allows for quick access if I'm in the cave, and otherwise unarmed. That said, I figure the SP101 could also pull this duty just fine.

I also have a Mossberg 500 Tactical that just sits in a safe, that I could use as trading fodder. After some of my recent purchases, my wife would probably try to shoot me with it, if I tried to just buy the Ruger outright, so some kind of trade is almost a must if I'm to get the Ruger.

Thanks for any feedback.

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HexHead
March 4, 2010, 11:44 AM
I'd keep the backup G26 and save up some money for the Ruger. Trade the Mossie for it to bring down the cost.

hso
March 4, 2010, 11:47 AM
Why switch manual of arms and failure protocols in defensive handguns?

Sure you can get just about the same ballistic performance by picking the ammo you want to feed the two if you're careful, but then you have to worry about reliabiliyt and accuracy of two different calibers from two different make/models when you're just matching energy/momentum on target. I'd never advocate mixing working guns.

If this isn't really a working gun question and more of a justification for getting rid of a gun you don't use for one you might, it doesn't really matter.

SOUTHPAW
March 4, 2010, 11:49 AM
Hmm... Tough call being two totally different types of pistols. I personally love my SP101. I bought it used from a friend for $300. Not a lot of money to spend in today's gun market, and worth every penny. I use it for carry, HD, and at the range those 125gr .357's put the biggest smile on my face! :D

bikerdoc
March 4, 2010, 11:51 AM
I like the SP 101 and I am sure you will also.
How you get yours, and what you trade or keep, leaves me stumped,except for trading the mossberg and saving a few bucks over time.

Doug S
March 4, 2010, 11:55 AM
I appreciate the quick responses. Trading the Mossberg is an option. The shop offered me $240 for my Mossberg. They have a used SP101 for $365, but I think I'd prefer a new one which they sell for $477 (after a recent price increase, used to have them in the $450 range). I was quoted $375-$400 for the Glock trade.

Sure you can get just about the same ballistic performance by picking the ammo you want to feed the two if you're careful, but then you have to worry about reliabiliyt and accuracy of two different calibers from two different make/models when you're just matching energy/momentum on target. I'd never advocate mixing working guns.


I guess on the one hand, it is a justification for making a trade, but on the other hand, I do like the idea of the simplicity of a revolver as a safe gun. No springs being compressed, and that it can sit loaded for years without worrying about it. I also enjoy shooting revolvers at the range, and it would make a good hiking gun IMO.

Otherwise, I have to agree with the above. I wouldn't be making the trade for ballistics. As far as reliability neither of my G26' have ever malfunctioned. They are accurate, and I think a good match for my house G17 (with which my wife is also familiar).

Fred Fuller
March 4, 2010, 12:21 PM
Since this is a 'hardware exclusive' thread and doesn't get into strategies and tactics, I'm moving it to Handguns: General.

lpl

fireside44
March 4, 2010, 01:44 PM
If the SP101 was the three inch kind that is what I would keep.

Otherwise, I would hang on to the other gun, as you have an affinity for it.

conhntr
March 4, 2010, 02:27 PM
if its just going to sit around in the "man cave" id much rather have a shotgun to grab than a pistol (even if it is a mossberg)

Bulldawg55
March 4, 2010, 03:05 PM
I have a SP 101, 3 1/16" which sits in a Gunvault in my nightstand.It will share winter carry duty with my Para CCW & G32 when my new holster arrives.
I had a G26 which was a great gun but I sold it and got a G33 (like that 357 power!). It shares summer carry duty with my S&W 360 & PF9.

Old John
March 4, 2010, 04:08 PM
I only shot a Glock once, a .45acp. It was okay.
My everyday CCW is an SP101. I have a spare in the gunsafe.
I also have a Ruger, GP100, .357 mag.
I would not think of trading any of them.
I make my own choices. No one else's.:D

snooperman
March 4, 2010, 04:30 PM
I am partial to the wheelguns over semi-autos anyway. I have the Ruger and like it a great deal.

NMGonzo
March 4, 2010, 04:32 PM
What you shoot better with?

Don357
March 4, 2010, 04:35 PM
For me there is no question as to what to do. This is my opinion and mine only, unless someone agrees with me! I (for my own reasons, not bashing) don't like Glocks, and would opt for the Ruger without even thinking about it. I would keep the Mossberg, lose the Glocks, and never look back.

Trebor
March 4, 2010, 05:15 PM
Keep the G 36. You like it and it's a good defensive pistol.

If you really want a Ruger revolver as a woods gun, save your pennies and get one later.

But, you will likely regret trading away a gun you like for a gun you *might* like.

And, I'm a revolver fan and not a Glock fan and I still think this. You like the gun you have. Why trade it for an unknown?

neededausername
March 4, 2010, 10:00 PM
I agree with Trebor. I'd much rather have a revolver, and I don't like Glocks. But if the Glock feels good and shoots well for you, then what does my preference matter? Btw if the springs sit compressed for a long time on a mag it wont hurt them. What wears springs is going from uncompressed to compressed and vice versa. In other words normal use

wanderinwalker
March 4, 2010, 10:10 PM
Keep the Glock. Stoked with 127gr Ranger SXTs (+P+, the Glock can take it) it gives you near-.357 punch, 10 +1 rounds (or more) reliably and it is no harder to shoot than a short-barreled DA revolver.

If you want a .357, save your pennies and pick up a used Security/Service/Speed Six. If it's a man-cave, safe, woods, range gun, you can even go with a 6" model for something easier to shoot.

And I can shoot either a Glock or a DA S&W well, so I don't think I'm too biased in my opinion. YMMY! ;)

wtfd661
March 4, 2010, 10:44 PM
I would keep the G26 and save my pennies for the Ruger SP101. I would definitely not get rid of the shotty.

W.E.G.
March 4, 2010, 10:54 PM
Two is one.

One is none.

Ichiro
March 4, 2010, 11:43 PM
In your position, I would keep the backup Glock, keep the shotgun, and forget about the SP-101. Costs nothing and leaves you with three good guns.

Girodin
March 5, 2010, 06:47 PM
I have both. For me the better defensive gun is the G26 simply because I shoot my G26 better, and run it better. Mechanically they are both good guns and both viable choices.

Doug S
March 5, 2010, 10:24 PM
I do appreciate all of the thoughtful comments. I'm still undecided, but there is some good food for thought here.

okespe04
March 5, 2010, 11:37 PM
Get both, learn to use them both, carry both.

Four Knives
March 6, 2010, 06:37 AM
To answer the title of your thread: which do I personally think is a better defensive handgun, I'd say Glock 26 due to capacity, and much cheaper ammo to keep you in practice.

Since you already have an extra G26, I'd say move the second out the door and get an SP101. Rugers are incredible revolvers, and with the ammunition/power versatility a good 357 provides, you can't go wrong

frankiestoys
March 6, 2010, 08:01 AM
If you have a second Glock then take the trade. The SP is a great revolver.
There more accurate then most snubs ,with very little felt rcoil. I don't own a Glock but have fired several they perform,and function well. Just not for me.

amd6547
March 6, 2010, 09:03 AM
If you want an SP101, I would re-think the used gun option. SP101's are tough little revolvers. I bought a used 3" SP101 for a bargain price, and it is a great revolver.

Doug S
March 6, 2010, 10:42 AM
Okay, I think I'm going to take a drive over to the gun shop this morning and take another look at the Ruger revolvers.:)

camsdaddy
March 6, 2010, 11:14 AM
Be sure to tell us about your new gun when you get home.

Mot45acp
March 6, 2010, 12:19 PM
Here is another option, coming from someone who is used to having to feed a gun addiction on a tight budget.

Buy 2 or 3 sets of springs and pins for the G26. They can be had for cheap. Think firing pins, guide rod assemblies, maybe an extra set of factory sights etc. Looking at $50-$100 depending on what you get. Buy only Glock factory parts dont get fancy.

This isnt quite as good as the 1 is none 2 is 1 mantra. Unless you carry both G26's you would have to wait untill you get home to replace the G26 if it goes down anyway. Its just a manner of grabbing the spare or repairing the original.

Then trade in which ever G26 you consider the spare.

Rexster
March 6, 2010, 04:00 PM
I believe in having a spare, or several, of my important weapons. OTOH, an SP101 fits my hands, and a Glock does not. Fit carries over to shooting performance; been there, done that. For the individual me, an SP101 is the better weapon, and multiple SP101s, better still. My Glocks went away.

FMJMIKE
March 6, 2010, 08:04 PM
The SP-101 has pretty stiff recoil with hot .357 magnum loads. It actually hurt my wrists. I prefer a G-19 myself. I think you should keep the Glocks......Great handguns !!!

Doug S
March 6, 2010, 10:45 PM
I'm really kind of surprised at the SP101's popularity. I really figured the G26 would be the more popular model.

I do like the spare parts idea. I only have a spare guide rod currently.

I didn't buy anything this morning. The shop does a lot of business, and was packed. One of the salespeople told me that they had a bunch of used guns in the back, including at least one used SP101 that would not be out on the shelves until next week. The two that he had earlier in the week had sold. If I didn't mind waiting, he recommended that I come back next week to see what the new "used" stuff was like. So that's the plan.

All of that said, I don't think I can bring myself to part with the G26, so if I get the Ruger it will either be a trade for the shotgun, or outright purchase.

Thanks again everyone for all of the helpful feedback. I really do appreciate it.

defjon
March 6, 2010, 10:47 PM
I say...variety is the spice of life.


Two glock 26s are boring. The world ain't gonna end, forget the two is one theory. You obviously are pining after the ruger. I used to have the gun in question so I get it.

You would have a better manual of arms with the shotty, 26 and ruger. Versatility is the name of the game. Its nice to have different calibers. I don't buy doubles of any pistols and it have suffered no ill effects, but i sure have tried a lot of guns and in the process figured out what best suits me. Life is short, lose one of the g-26s and give the ruger a spin.

If you hate it, sell it, recoup the 26, or try something else. You'll still have the subcompact 9mm and mossberg and g17, so your bases are preetty well covered. I just don't see the point of having two. If you are REALLY worried about the 26 breaking down, like another poster said, get spare parts for the parts prone to breaking, which won't cost much for a g-26.

Oh, and grab a 30 rounder for it. Just because! :)

Doug S
March 6, 2010, 11:04 PM
You would have a better manual of arms with the shotty, 26 and ruger. Versatility is the name of the game.

Just when I thought I was comfortable with my decision, you had to go and make me think.:D

SOUTHPAW
March 6, 2010, 11:26 PM
Just when I thought I was comfortable with my decision, you had to go and make me think.:D

:D:D:D

Again, I love my SP101, and that man has a good point! Ya need versatility my friend! ;)

TexasBill
March 7, 2010, 05:07 AM
I actually bought a S&W Model 60 3-inch over the Ruger but for the money, the Ruger is impossible to beat and I often think of adding one to my family of wheelguns. The 3-inch barrel is an especially sweet gun. Full-house .357 Magnums will get your attention (the longer barrel helps), but you can use some of the modern .38 Special or .38 Special +P rounds for the majority of your shooting.

jmortimer
March 7, 2010, 11:31 AM
I have a 3" .357 SP101 - perfect "wood's gun" - Normally shoot 148 grain hard cast DEWC which will do a number on a two or four leggged critter. I don't use full power loads as it only weighs 27 ounces but it can take whatever you can take and then some. Built like a tank. If you reload get some Oregon Trail Laser Cast or Buffalo Bore 148 grain hard cast DEC which are around 21 BHR - I load up to 1,200 fps. It will put a hurt on anything. Consider that a Oregon Trail Laser Cast will shoot through 36" of ballistic gelatin at 657 fps so you can imagine what it will do at 1,000 plus fps.

zignal_zero
March 7, 2010, 05:01 PM
you already have two G26's, right? i'd definately trade one off for the SP101. i carried an SP101, for years, and was issued a G27. to me, it's a no-brainer, i'd make the trade EVEN if i only had ONE G26.

if the revolver is going to be staying in the "man cave" and not being carried, i would go for a GP100, instead.

amd6547
March 7, 2010, 05:57 PM
The SP101 hurt your wrist? Come on, I can shoot 357 mag through my 3" Sp101 all day with no problem. The stiffest load I have shot is my carry load, DoubleTap 125gn Bondedcore. You definately know you are triggering off a serious magnum round with that one, but hurt wrists? Nah.
It's a pretty accurate little revolver, too...This target was from my first time out, using American Eagle 158gn SP's:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/amd6547/P1000903_Small.jpg

easyg
March 8, 2010, 12:01 PM
I think the Glock is a way better CCW, and lots more fun to shoot too...but since you have two of them, I recommend trading one for the Ruger.

230therapy
March 8, 2010, 03:24 PM
If you use the G26 to defend your life, the gun will be taken as evidence. What will you carry then? Your gear will be identical. You should be shooting the spare Glock periodically. Jeff Cooper talked about spare guns; I recommend you read his article on this topic.

TXHORNS
March 8, 2010, 04:41 PM
If hd or mcd (man cave defense :) is really your main concern, then the mossberg outshines the glocks and the ruger combined, no question in my mind so keep that. I personally think the SP101 is a great revolver but TO ME its better served as a conceal carry weapon not really a firearm that sits in a safe loaded. For that you can choose a pretty big gun, like your shotgun, or at least a bigger handgun with more capacity (bigger glock, gp100)

I'm not a glock fan, I do own one but thats because I saw Nugent with a Glock 10mm so I had to have one too. If you want a woods gun buy that monster. Not many critters can handle 16 rounds of 10mm. That being said, it sounds like you are a glock fan and based only on the fact that glock is trying to make their pistols even uglier I think you should keep both glocks. Plus I am assuming you are pretty proficient with your glock so why try to learn a new platform, and take the risk you wont like it as much as your glock.

The SP101 would add variety but it doesnt really do anything you cant do already, except being a little better woods gun, not ideal for me though. I'm trying to put myself in your shoes so lets say only one company made 1911s and all of the sudden they changed them in a way I didnt care for, I would darn sure go buy a backup in the flavor I was currently happy with. If Ruger makes plans to screw up the SP then get after that purchase, in fact I will race you.

LEVRLOVR
March 8, 2010, 04:56 PM
The Sp-101 is possibly my favorite handgun.
With that said,were I in your conundrum I would keep the duplicate G26.
I am a firm believer of having duplicates of favorite and time tested weapons.

Also keep the shotgun. Somewhere down the road you will have a need for it and be glad you kept it.

Doug S
March 9, 2010, 12:07 AM
I would like to read the Cooper article. I'll see if I can find it on the net anywhere.

based only on the fact that glock is trying to make their pistols even uglier I think you should keep both glocks. :) I agree with you there.

I definitely have decided to keep the Glock for now. Also some good points about keeping the shotgun here.

PzGren
March 9, 2010, 01:13 AM
I definitely have decided to keep the Glock for now. Also some good points about keeping the shotgun here.

Doug,

this is the wrong place to be asking for advice on trading guns off! It is like going to a bar packed with heavy drinkers for advice on sobering up.

I have a G26 and find it a better carry gun than the SP101 that I also own. The SP101 is quite heavy, an easy shooter, particularly with Hogue Monogrips, but carrying sparerounds for a fast reload is a bit more awkward.

The SP101 will be a nice addition to the armoury and there will always be an excuse to get another gun, for there will always be a perceived advantage of the gun that we still have to get!

There is no cure - and we all know the fix...

Doug S
March 10, 2010, 12:30 AM
PzGren said,

this is the wrong place to be asking for advice on trading guns off! It is like going to a bar packed with heavy drinkers for advice on sobering up.

I have a G26 and find it a better carry gun than the SP101 that I also own. The SP101 is quite heavy, an easy shooter, particularly with Hogue Monogrips, but carrying sparerounds for a fast reload is a bit more awkward.


And thanks to your post, my Mossberg has become a Ruger MkIII 22/45 with slab side bull barrel.:o

Seriously, I did actually did make an even trade of the shotgun for a like new Ruger MKIII today, and even though I hate the asthetics of the loaded chamber indicator, I actually like the gun. The Ruger was test fired in June 09, so it is actually pretty new. I made the decision because I decided to pick up something what would get me and my son to the range more. In fact we spent some of the afternoon plinking today. The shotgun was usually locked in the cabinet, and not something I would have had time to grab quickly for HD purposes. This wasn't necessarily the smartest decision, but it was a fun one.:)

Thanks again for all of the helpful feedback.

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