[Black92LX]

just curious on everyones opinions??? i can't buy one for awhile of course since i am not 21. and my first handgun is going to be a sig. i would like a .22 autoloader after that and just curious on this gun.

price??

[NEtracker]

I've had a P22 since Sept. '02. I got it for a companion piece for my P99.
It is not for bullseye competition, but is great as a training piece. Has a similar combat sight setup like the P99. Mine was a 3.42" brl but I recently installed the 5" barrel, a tac mount & red dot. Orig price was $239.
The P22's manufactured in 2003 should have all the "new model" bugs worked out. So, if you get one, look for the "AD" date code on the frame.
SIG's are nice, the P226 is very easy to shoot. Which model are you considering? Training is a good idea, if you have not taken some already (more is always better).

[Black92LX]

i am looking at the 226 and 228. leaning towards the 228 in hopes of ohio passing the concealed carry. i will also be getting a florida carry permit for all my travels.

but definatly training is in the picture just need to to turn 21 and get myself a gun then sign up for the classes.

[Black92LX]

is it picky on ammo?? or can i buy the remington block of 525 for $9.99

[NEtracker]

Consider breaking in the P22 with a couple boxes (so, 200) of CCI mini-mags.
After that the Wally World Bulk Remington Goldens work fine.
I use 'em a lot.
I also like CCI stds, Velocitors, Stingers. Federal Bulk just never worked for me (not even in my 10/22T).

[Black92LX]

Federal Bulk just never worked for me (not even in my 10/22T).

i just posted on that not too long ago. in my marlin and my 550-1. man that stuff sucks. jams at least every three rounds.

[NEtracker]

Yes, I'm still working on a bulk box, single shot, rifles, just to get rid of it.

More on the P22, mine likes CCI Greentag also, and Remington Thunderbolts (when there's enough primer in the rim to go off!).

[gvass]

hi,
do not buy P22!
Thats a zinc-alloy "Lorcin-grade" junk weapon.
No matter on the big name on it. The P22 is made by Walther's parent company, the Umarex, in Arnsberg!

The model originally made for 9 mm PAK gas-alarm pistol.

Check out:www.umerex.de (http://www.umarex.de)

[gvass]

www.umarex.de

(this is the correct link)

[DougCxx]

I would advise you wait and see what S&W does with all the Walthers that don't work.
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These guns are not built real well and have showed early-wear problems, with serious slide-rail wear after as few as 5000 shots. Someone on another board described these guns as "being about $100 overpriced". They come with a lifetime warranty but the question is how that may end up being handled in the future--as it is, S&W is trading new guns for worn-out ones because one of the parts that wear out is also the serial-number bearing pieces, and cannot be separately changed (the metal slide rail hooks set permanently into the polymer-grip/frame).
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I agree they are handy and they have that cool "tactical" look, but I would keep watching closely how the returns are being handled while you are waiting to save money anyway. The first big problem was the magazines--that has been pretty well solved now, but the slide-wear problem is still there.
And if you absolutely gotta have one, go buy a new one, as it's likely to have the most improvements put into it. DON'T buy a used one, unless you can afford to throw away the purchase cost (-in the future, warranty work may only be free for original owners!).
~

[Top_Notch]

Are these things really that bad?

I've been wanting to pick up a 22 and have my eyes set on the Walther.
I like it's dimunitive size and I believe it would make a great plinking gun at the range. I know some earlier models had teething problems, but are the new ones that bad? Lorcin Grade...$100 overpriced (NIB = $225)

[gvass]

"Are these things really that bad? "

hmm,
let me explain:
The P22 is designed to handle 9 mm PAK gas-alarm patrons. Their maximal gas pressure is limited to 450 atm.
The .22 LR's pressure is about 1500-2000 atm.

The P22 9 mm PAK is designed such way, that it is impossible to shoot real bullets. (This is a requirement by German laws for license-free guns).
So they HAVE to use soft materials for the slide and the inner frame.

The difference between the two versions is only the barrel (the gaspistol's barrel is made from the same piece with the frame).

So you really wanna buy and shoot something that made for only some hundred rounds lifetime with a weaker cartridge?

(The P22 9 mm PAK is sold for 100 euros here (about 120 USD)!)

[NEtracker]

More owner opinions, good and bad....
http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=48

http://www.gothammarketing.com/ikon/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?;act=SF;f=3

Again, I like my P22, and two friends (who had to get the P22 after trying mine) like theirs also.

[BeLikeTrey]

The gun is extremely fun and nice to shoot. I am disappointed at it's durability. My slide is getting damaged on the rails from firing. The slide is some pot metal alloy. Very disturbing!!!! It is extremely soft. It shoots well and has neat design features but the slide ain't one of 'em. get a ruger 22/45 man. Ruger is cheaper and will just keep on shooting no matter what you run through it. those are tough guns. I have one and love it. I have recently hit the 1000 mark on rounds through the P22. The slide was gouged and burred. I had to deburr it. on the rails.

[hksw]

I had recently purchased a P22 about a month and a half ago. I've had pretty good service from the Walther guns I've owned and finally bought the P22. The main reason for the purchase is to use it for teaching my nieces and nephew shootin. The grip, even with the larger insert, is just a tad too small for my average sized hands.

Upon examining the gun after purchase, it seemed to be, at least to me, very well built. The slide does have a small hitch to it when it travels over the hammer under cycling but otherwise the gun seemed pretty sound.

On my first trip to the range, I used Fed Lightning and Rem Thunderbolt. The Fed load has always seemed to work for me very well in all of my semis and bolts, handguns and rifles. The Rem load has usually given me trouble in most of my semis and bolts expect a 10/22 with the stock barrel and a MkII with stock barrel. The Rems even jam my stock Buckmarks.

The first two magfuls ran wihtout a hitch. I was thinking the gun was going to work out well. Upon my third and all magfuls after, I had encountered at least two failures of some sort per mag on average. Usually faliure to eject and failure to pick up the next round. A total of about a 1/2 - 2/3 brick of Fed went through. No Rem was fired as it would chamber. The rest of the ammo was eaten up by a Browning Buckmark Standard.

Clearly, the slide was hanging up somewhere to prevent it from cycling fully. At first, I thought it would be due to the safety bar of the slide where the movement has that hitch mentioned previously.

When stripped for cleaning, it was found that a small area on the right side of the frame that the slide travels over ws getting peened by something on the slide. It was occurring at the corner of a little hump on the frame the purpose of which I don't know. This peening caused a burr to develop and that was what was causing the slowing down of the slide. (Actually didn't know if this was it 100% until I fixed it and went the range to try the gun out again.) The area to work in to remove the burr is very tight. Getting a file in there would be difficult. Instead, I use a cheap made in China folding knife and actually scraped the burr off. I was a bit disappointed that the metal portion of the frame was so easily work with low grade steel but it didn't cost much (~$260 at Fin Feather Fur in Ashland, OH). Also, actually scraped a slight bevel to the hump to prevent any further wear and failures.

What was causing the wear was the firing pin safety plunger which seemed slightly cocked in its resting position. As it travels back, it hits the corner of the hump.

On the second trip to the range, the gun worked 100% on Fed Lightning and Win Wildcat. Total 1/2 brick each, the remains were once again shot through the Buckmark Standard. When shooting the two guns, it was very clear the difference in weight, the Browning being much heavier. Also, the Browning ejects more consistantly than the Walther. The P22 also seems to be a bit more involve in disassembly than my Buckmarks and MkII.

Now that the P22 is working fine now, I am using it more. I've yet to let my niece shoot it. Hopefully this Thanksgiving break she will have the time to do so. I still prefer the Buckmark though as it fits me better.

[spacemanspiff]

i have a p22; if i had to do it all over again, i'd have gotten a ruger mk2 instead. the p22 is an interesting concept, but i'm not impressed with it. good fun for just burning up .22 though. oh yeah, the DA pull is good for building up finger strength.

[hksw]

Oh yeah, forgot about the DA pull. Serious stacking on my sample.

[NEtracker]

As I mentioned before, I got the P22 as a training companion piece to my P99. I also use it to introduce new shooters to the sport.
Here in MA, we cannot buy any New Ruger semi-autos or Buckmarks or any other affordable .22 semi-auto, except the P22 and the S&W offerings.
(very Used .22's of the above can go for 2 to 3X the P22 price) all since 10/98 Law, and the MA AG.
I am planning on getting a S&W 22A next spring, the M41 is just too pricy.

[Ant Mod]

I've had a P22 since Sept. '02. I got it for a companion piece for my P99.

Is it true that the P22 is 75% the size of its larger caliber brother? Do you have a picture comparing the two by any chance?

[NEtracker]

Yes, the P22 is scaled down, and mechanical differ from the P99.

http://www.picturefuse.com/view.php?dir=NEtracker/Walther

[anapex]

gvass: Since I've never had a much of a problem with mine after the break in period I'm kinda curious to see if you're right about the P22 being based off a gas run model by umarex instead of the other way around. So do you have any (preferably english sources) to back up what you're saying? Just seems kind of backwards for them to do it that way.

[gvass]

The "Walther" (Umarex) have clones of amost all Walther handguns is gas-alarm version. They are all made of zinc alloy.

http://www.kaehny.de/schreckschuss/walther/p22g.JPG

P22

http://www.kaehny.de/schreckschuss/walther/p22a.JPG

P22 and P99

http://www.kaehny.de/schreckschuss/walther/p88sz_kunststoff.JPG

P88C

http://www.kaehny.de/schreckschuss/walther/waltherppkschwarz.JPG

PPK

http://www.kaehny.de/schreckschuss/walther/waltherppschwarz_vollbild.JPG

PP

[DougCxx]

gvass, what is it exactly that gas-alarm guns are used for?....
When fired, does anything besides noise come out the barrels at all?
If not, then why do people buy them?
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[Ant Mod]

If not, then why do people buy them?

Because in places like Germany it is nearly impossible to purchase a handgun. They are big in England as well. Its also the reason airsoft is so big over there. I remember being in Fulda once and seeing some gun on display. I walk into the store and to my amazement there were hundreds of guns all over the place. After talking to the owner I soon realized they were all these "blank" firing guns. Its a big deal over there I guess.

[DougCxx]

I have problems comprehending the reasoning behind buying a gun that just makes noise.
I mean,
airguns you can actually shoot with--they don't to much damage to most things, but they can be very accurate at least.
And airsoft guns, well, I mostly see teenagers having wars shooting each other's legs, but I -suppose- you could target shoot with them too at least. Somehow.
But a gun that shoots nothing?
I don't get it.
[-edit-]
-I guess if an intruder or attacker came after you, you could stick your gas-blank pistol barrel up his nose and ...... ... -and .. .... -end up with a 30-year prison sentence for assaulting somebody.
Nevermind.
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[7.62FullMetalJacket]

I just returned from a trip to the FFL, had a P22 in my hand, and decided to think about it. Glad I did. ANd I am glad I read this post; very timely. I think I will go Ruger/Browning.

[varoadking]

POS is the only thing that comes to my mind.

You are much better off investing the same coin in a .22 conversion kit from Advantage, CZ, Beretta or whomever makes one for whatever pistol you happen to have...

[JeepDriver]

My P22 gave me problems for the first 1000 rounds. I've tried all types of ammo in it and have forund the CCI Stingers, Velocitors, and mini mags works as well as the Remington 525 bulk packs.

Stay away from the Federal loads. The appear to be loaded rather light and do not reliabily cycle the P22.

Since I've found a load that works in mine I've been pretty happy with it.

[gvass]

"gvass, what is it exactly that gas-alarm guns are used for?....
When fired, does anything besides noise come out the barrels at all?
If not, then why do people buy them?"

First of all: this is what you can have in most European countries for selfdefence.

The gas(-alarm) guns do operate with blank cartridges which contain CN, CS or OC (pepper) irritants.
The quantity of the irritant is quite high (80 mg CS or 120 mg OC), it is about equal with an _entire_ flask of normal tear gas spray.

Therefore, within 2-4 meters it is a very good stopper against unarmed attackers. Plus the psichologycal effect of the loud bang, muzzle flash.

And you can easily double tap again and again if needed.

The minus: it is self-dangerous in wind.

[mini14jac]

I got a P22 in July.
For the first 1100 rounds, I was telling everybody to buy one.
Big mistake!
At first the gun would shoot any ammo, and was quite accurate.

Then, the problems started:
1. First round would fire, slide would cycle, shell eject, but not pick up round #2. :confused:
2. After about 8 rounds, the gun would put itself on "safe".
3. Frequent light strikes, where a second pull of the trigger would fire the round.

Oh, and somebody posted that the guns have a lifetime warranty.
Wrong! It is one year.
I've sold mine since, but you can download the manual and see for yourself.

On the plus side, S&W paid shipping both ways, and got the gun back to me in two weeks.
Ony fired 100 rounds, but it was ammo sensitive after that.

I told a friend about it's problems, and made him a good deal on it.

[geekWithA.45]

FWIW, I tried out a P22 last weekend. I liked the feel of it in my hands, and the trigger was OK by me, but the thing wouldn't group to save it's own buttocks.

Normally, with decent .22 handgun, I can put 10 rds through a quarter @ 10 yards. (a 50 center on a bad day) but this beasty was all over the map.

When I braced my hand on the bench, to see if maybe it was me, I got it to group within maybe 6 inches @ 10 yards.

I shot the rest of my ammo, locked the slide back, and returned it to the counter, holding it as if it were a dead mouse.

I CANT BELIEVE they'd sell something that innaccurate, and really want to believe it's a QA glitch.

What's everyone elses accuracy experience been with the p22?

[DougCxx]

-The couple people I have ended up next to at the range recently who were shooting badly also. They both were using targets about 14 inches across, one was around 10 yds and the other maybe out to 15, and both were all over. Why this was I don't know, they didn't offer me a chance to shoot it and I didn't ask..... Maybe next time I'll ask if I can put a couple mags through it while they try mine--I only gots two .22 pistols -- a red-dotted MkII g'vt target and an IZH35M. (ya think they'll notice any difference?)
......
Although I must admit though I'm no longer real curious--it could have been sweet but until S&W puts better slide rails on it and goes with a steel (or maybe harder aluminum) slide, I won't even consider buying one.
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[XLMiguel]

My P22 likes the hotter stuff. When I purchased the gun, I bought a brick of american Easgle High Velocity a box of Velocitors. It just wouldn't run with the Am Eagle - lots and lots of FTE's, some FTF/ go into battery. After about 250 rnds, I tried the Velocitors - ran like a champ, fired all 50 without a hitch.

Taking this as a clue, I traded back the remainder of the Am Eagle for some PMC Zappers and picked up some Remington Vipers, CCI Mini Mags, and Winchester SuperX HP's to try also. I took 100 of eact to the range yesterday. The gun functioned flawlessly with the PMC, Winchester, and CCI, , but only so-so with the Remington (2-3 FTF/go into battery, about half a dozen FTE's). Accuracy was decent with all (all within 3-4"@ 7 yards, most within 2-3") with the Winchester, CCI, and PMC shooting to POA, Remington a little low/right. The trigger was OK out-of-the-box, and has improved with use. I have the short (3.4") barreled verrsion.

All 'n all, it's a fun little gun, just have to feed it right. HTH.

[KILLBOY]

Most of you think that gas-alarm pistol use only blank cartridges. I live in a country where is nearly impossible to get a legal handgun. But the law allows me to get gas-alarm pistol, only if I'm >18 years. Now I have 3 gas-signal pistols, one of them is full-auto Beretta 93 replica. Gas-alarm pistols use a large choise of ammo....blank cartridges, just for making noise. Flash-defence, very useful when somebody attacks you midnight. And the most usefull ammo for this kind pistols- gas cartridges! There are 3 kinds gases P.V. , C.S. and C.N. in different concentrations in each "bullet". When you shoot the attacker whit a gas ammo, he will fall on the ground and will be unactive for about 10-15 min. He will cry, vomit, he won't see, and after 15 min. he will be OK Gas-signal pistols are very usefull unletal weapons for self-defence. The law allows you to use gas-signal pistol almost everywhere, anytime, anyhow. In other countries there is very special, universal calliber for gas-signal pistols- 10 X 22T, called stop-bullet, 5.45 rubber ball. Usefull nonletal bullet.

[The Good]

i got a p22 the other day and shot it for the first time yesterday. it's alot of fun. you can feel free to blow lots of ammo on it cause its cheap. with my other guns i dont want to was ammo doing things like rapid fire but with this i can do whatever. another great aspect of the p22 is it's so lightweight, it feels alot more like a significant caliber gun than most 22s, so its great for training. I also feel like the price was so low for this gun, i can put it through more abuse.

[tqtran]

its a great practice gun but it likes to eat premium ammo.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/tqtran/waltherp22.jpg

[lyricsdad]

i have put thousand upon thousands of 22 rounds through my p22... over 50,000 for sure.

it loves the cci mini mags for like the first 500 or so rounds, after that, it will eat pretty much anything in my opinion, remington bulk, federal, etc.. I also loved shooting velocitors, and stingers through it.

i raved and raved on my p22 until on day it kept jamming on me, and i wondered what was up, i took it home to clean, and it had and still has a small crack in the front of the slide below the front sight. I still need to send it back to smith and wesson.

When i get resettle in new mex or az, I will eventually send it to them, and get a new slide. It was a very reliable pistol pretty accurate, I have the 3 inch bbl and 5. the fake compensator got annoying to remove all the time, and I went through three of them because I kept stripping out the screw that holds it on the barrel straight.

here is a pic of it.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/madblunted/p22a.jpg

[Hanzo581]

Yeah I am not sure about quality issues, I shot many rounds through mine without a problem, maybe I just got a good one ;) fun little gun

[DougCxx]

Update: the Walthers and Mosquitos have improved in general functionality, but not in engineering much. They're still zinc, and I still don't have one. The best option for a fullsize-style 22 pistol is (still) a fullsize conversion.
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Also--the P22 is made by S&W, but it [I]doesn't have the S&W lifetime warranty that S&W guns do, it only has a one-year warranty.
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[30 cal slob]

well, as it happens i dusted off my p-22 last weekend to take a young fella shooting.

it was only the second or third time in ages since i pulld it out of the safe.

i loaded it up at the range, and the darn thing didn't fire. i ended up renting a .22 for the session.

this is very strange - i'm wondering if i re-assembled it incorrectly, or the dang thing just broke?

-slob

[.45 AUTO]

My Walther P22 works pretty good, and I am pretty happy with it. Occasionally the slide won't lock back on last round, also will not fire sometimes if the slide does not lock into position and it is pretty accurate. One word of caution: wear long sleeves when shooting it because you might get some powder burns on your arms as I have experienced.:( The Walther P22 is imported by S&W but made in Germany, at least mine is anyway. The only real complaint I have is that the spring in front of the safety lever will work it's way out a little upon firing.

[clarkford]

I am quite impressed with my P22. I bought it brand spanking new two months ago and went crazy at the shooting range. I got the bulk Federal ammo at Wally World and put about 2,500 rounds through it to this day.
Only once in a while I will get a dud bullet (about 3 per 550 round box, not bad) and the last time i shot it, i got powder burn by my left eye and man did it hurt. i am going to be cautious the next few times i go out and see if this problem continues, hopefully it wont. But so far it hasn`t jammed or anything like that considering all I have shot through it was bulk ammo.

[atblis]

Safety Glasses. There are few things less dangerous than semi auto pistols.

[Zero_DgZ]

Mine's been good. It fits the hand well and is, of course, very tacti-cool looking.

Comes in a nice hard case with storage for mags and cleaning junk. I have the short barreled version in black. It's... capable of at least hitting the barn door, but it won't drive any tacks into it. The three inch version is good for minute-of-paper-plate at any range .22 is useful out of a three inch barrel; I hear the five inch version actually isn't much of an improvement. More than capable of minute-of-soda-can at 25 yards, beyond is iffy.

I like the fact that it's DA/SA, just like my usual carry piece, so it makes for good training. It also has a working slide stop, drop free mags, the whole nine yards.

Mine has had NO ammo difficulties whatsoever. Stingers, subsonics, Federal bulk packs, Remmington bulk packs, down the range they all go.

My only other gripe is that it throws brass absolutely everywhere. Up, back, left, right, it doesn't matter. Expect to be finding spent .22 casings in every pocket, crease, and cuff in the clothing you take to the range.

[CannonFodder]

I love my P22. I does prefer CCI Mini-Mags over bulk .22. I don't mind - so do I.

It's decently accurate, cheap to feed, and lots of fun. I like to introduce people to shooting with it - they love how easy it is to shoot, and I love having new shooting buddies.

Overall, a good buy. Great ergonomics. It's just plain fun.

I got mine back in 2005 and have taken pretty scrupulous care of it - a bare minimum of any hiccups, and only one failure to fire in 3000 rounds.

Give it a shot. :)

[scottw]

I own 3 P22's and the only problem is it takes hot ammo. My question is has anyone cut a couple of coils of the spring? I have done this on 45's in the past so I could shoot mild reloads and it worked great. I am going to buy a couple of spare springs and try it out. All of mine shoot one hole. If there is an accuracy problem I would look at having the barrel checked out and try other brands of ammo.:cool:

[panaceabeachbum]

They come with a lifetime warranty but the question is how that may end up being handled in the future--as it is, S&W is trading new guns for worn-out ones because one of the parts that wear out is also the serial-number bearing pieces


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This is incorrect information, the p22 only has a 1 year warranty. We had a p22 slide brake 2 weeks ago and hit a customer in the face . Smith/Walther USA wants $50 to replace the slide .

[357SIG]

Mine has over 12,000 rounds through it now. It only jams when really dirty (like 2000 rounds with no cleaning) and only misfires on crappy bulk rounds that lack priming compound all around the rim. Other than that, it works every time

[CornCod]

In general, I like mine. It fires near 100% with CCI Mini-Mags and Stingers. It's ammo pickyness is its least desireable asset. Reassembly is a little tricky. Otherwise, its a fun gun for practice. If I want reliabilty with cheap ammo I take my Ruger Mark II to the range.

[searcher451]

Run a search on this forum. It'll tell you a lot. Run a search on the RimfireCentral Forum (particularly the Sticky on the P22 Bible). It will tell you even more, and perhaps enough to make a decision. But keep in mind that the P22 is not a Walther firearm. It's a Umarex gun, and Umarex is an airsoft company, which truly ought to tell you enough to make an educated decision. If you want a decent .22 caliber firearm, look to Ruger or Browning; steer clear of anything that uses pot metal in its construction, IMO.

[NMGonzo]

I own one; yet I am yet to try them with hotter ammo.

The low-end bulk stuff I bought won't feed or cycle well.

[TonyDedo]

Coincidentally, I happened to pick up a P22 in a trade just the other night - 1,000 rounds of cheap reloaded 9mm from an estate sale for a near-new green P22. Price was right, as the ammo was just gathering dust in my ammo closet. I would never have paid cash for a P22, but I wasn't going to turn down that deal. It'll be nice to have something else in my safe for my students to shoot, maybe even as a demo of the gun they DON'T want to buy.

It definitely feels like a cheap toy - light, made of plastic and very gimmicky. Not very confidence inspiring, especially with a high velocity round like the Stinger coming out of it. The rear sight don't look solid at all. Maybe it's my imagination, but it looks crooked and I think I can wiggle it back and forth.

Regardless, I got it to the range last night, and it performed about as expected. I put 500 rounds down the tube, about a half dozen different types of ammo. It ran through the high velocity plated stuff (CCI Stingers, Fed Bulk Pack) without a problem, but got hung up on all the standard velocity lead ammo. With the CMP .22, every other round was a FTF, it failed to eject a few times, the slide didn't stay open on an empty mag a few times, etc…

I glanced at the P22 bible, and if I get around to it I'll see if I can run a few of the reliability mods - I've heard good things from people who've done this (the guys who claim to have x10k rounds through their P22s).

Accuracy was to be expected - consistent 3"-4" groups at 30 feet.

Upon disassembly and inspection, I could see some of the points along the slide where the metal was already chipped or worn. Not a good sign.

All in all, I would not recommend this gun to anyone. I have little faith in the workmanship. The reliability issues are going to be a headache for any new shooter (especially a younger, impatient shooter), and performance is not going to be up to par for a serious shooter. It looks cool and for someone with small hands, probably feels cool, but there's nothing cool about a gun that doesn't go bang.

I'll pull the P22 out from time to time, but my go-to .22 autoloader will remain my Ruger Mk II.

[Skillet]

It stinks that the one 22 pistol that actually looks like a true semi-auto pistol and not just a grip with a barrel stuck on top is the one pistol that shoots crappy. comon engineers! you can do better than that! Now i know the sig mosquito is decent based off of the reviews and the CZ kadet .22 is good (because it's CZ. it has to be good!) but these are quite expensive for a plinkin .22.

[WoofersInc]

I must have gotten the odd P22 because mine has not given me any troubles. I did do the suggested things in the P22 Bible before firing it. It has since run fine for me. It is one of my wifes favorite guns. More so with the suppressor on it.

[DeepSouth]

I bought one for the wife a few years ago. It was the most unreliable piece of Jam-o-matic I ever owned. I had almost every problem I know of with it. I sold it for about a $150 loss and I feel bad for whoever bought it.

Obliviously, I would not recommend one, unless you want a neat/expensive paper weight.

[okc-zee]

I've owned one I bought new about a year ago...I guess I'm one of the fortunate ones...I have upwards of at least 2000 rounds thru it,and never as much as a hic-cup...I've run only CCI mini-mags and stingers thru it so far...