Nagant and Broomie Ammo
Wildalaska
November 21, 2003, 02:27 AM
Just when ya thought the world was safe for Glocks and Tauruses, and that all those wierd handguns would go away for lack of fodder, I am pleased to report..
That Fiocchi 7.63 Mauser and 7.65 Nagant revolver (yeah the real stuff) is in the country.
Up here, the Broomie fodder is retailing for like $30 a box.....the Nagant is almost a $1 a crack retail (altho yours truly gets it cheaper)..
This stuff comes in once every few years.....
So get out there boys...feed them relics!
WildboxerprimedobsoltecartridgesAlaska
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Justin
November 21, 2003, 03:00 AM
YAY! :D
Moving to handguns.
Nightcrawler
November 21, 2003, 04:49 AM
Sweet. I should buy a Nagant one of these days. Just for kicks.
Oddly enough, I LIKE the way it looks. It's very Russian looking; sort of like an AK-revolver.
Imagine a slightly modernized one, with better grips, a swing-out cylinder, and in, say, .357 Magnum? Would that just be boss or what? :D
-Nightlovesuglygunscrawler
Jim K
November 23, 2003, 10:15 PM
The whole different idea with that Nagant was that it seals the barrel-cylinder gap, thereby increasing muzzle velocity. But that requires special ammo, with the bullet seated down in the case so the mouth of the case can be pushed into the end of the barrel.
In other words, one could be made to chamber conventional cartridges, and the Nagants made for Sweden and other countries were, but they would have no advantage over any other revolver.
Jim
BluesBear
November 24, 2003, 01:22 AM
No problem to make a Nagant type revolver to fire regular ammo and still seal the gap.
All you need is a flange on the front of the cylinder that fits into a counterbore on the rear of the barrel.
Or better yet an extension of the barrel that fits into a counterbore at the mouth of each chamber.
It's the movement of the cylinder forward while maintaining headspace that makes the Nagant complicated. The Swedish version did away with that feature altogether.
Jason Demond
November 24, 2003, 05:13 PM
Lapua .30 mauser (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=106199)
All the way from Finland to you! 93 grain, manufactured in the 80s by Finnish supplier Lapua, no doubt while Duran Duran blared over the factory radio. It's non-corrosive and Berdan-primed, with full metal jacket. Muzzle Velocity: approx. 1,115 F.P.S.; Muzzle Energy: approx. 275 ft.-lbs.
17.97 a box.
Jim K
November 25, 2003, 08:04 PM
Hi, BluesBear,
"No problem to make a Nagant type revolver to fire regular ammo and still seal the gap. All you need...."
True. When can we expect your gun on the market? ;>)
Actually, the moving cylinder Nagant is not at all complicated, although the "imporvement" was apparently thought to not be worth the effort, since no other mass production gun employed it.
Jim
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