harper ferry pistol shooting at 25meters


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flibuste
March 9, 2010, 06:02 AM
hello,

This pistol is known for a "bashing lock" and one remedy is modifying the cock to obtain a better geometry ; the cock has been cut, bent and welded and now it works

If anyone could insert pics of a normal HP pistol lock, the comparison would be more effective.



http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/11/02/14/58/harper10.jpg

http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/11/02/14/58/harper12.jpg

http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/11/02/14/58/harper13.jpg

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BHP FAN
March 9, 2010, 09:50 AM
perfect.

Texas Moon
March 9, 2010, 01:02 PM
Thats a neat pistol! I've wanted one of those for years.

Calibre44
March 9, 2010, 02:19 PM
Love the wood and brass finish ... good shooting too!

Ragnar Danneskjold
March 9, 2010, 03:02 PM
Where does one acquire one of those? I'm an MP so they kind of a hold a special place for me =)

Oyeboten
March 9, 2010, 05:37 PM
Hi flibuste,



Wow...


Nice Pistol...


Nice Shooting..!


Can you elaborate more on the issue with the Hammer/Cock? and how it's arc was not right? Ands your modifying it to be right?


Was the original design imperfect? and hence, reproductions, when faithful to the original, are also?

BHP FAN
March 9, 2010, 07:13 PM
Dixie Gunworks carries the pistol.Probably Loyalist Arms as well...

Fingers McGee
March 9, 2010, 07:52 PM
And there are always a couple or three on Gunbroker for reasonable prices.

I sold the pair I had to ............................ are you ready.......................an MP...................go figure. He wanted to replicate the MPC Crest in real life

FM

grimjaw
March 9, 2010, 10:58 PM
Cherry's also lists that Harper's Ferry made by Pedersoli. I'm kicking myself for not getting one when Dixie had it on sale last month.

flibuste
March 10, 2010, 03:20 AM
hello,

Some experts would explain better than me but basically, the problem is that the Pedersoli replica presents an incorrect flint / frizzen angle ; PD seems to argue that it is identical to the original pistol (may be true ?) but the result is that, at best the flint is destroyed within 4-5 ignition and at worst the pistol will be a wallhanger.

In my experience during a range session with a new flint I would be able to shoot 2-3 balls with many difficulties and a lot of exasperation due to lack of correct sparks and ignition.

A definitive option (proposed and explained on forums ) is to modify the angle of the cock : saw the front arc, bend it to modify the angle, and weld .

The result is that the geometry of the lock is now correct and shooting this pistol is now a real pleasure (however still difficult to master, like any flintlock)

I also dovetailed a rear sight ; the vent is very large : 0.01"

regards

flibuste
July 21, 2013, 12:17 PM
Shooting 2handshold at 25meters (pistol wood has been stained meanwhile)

First shot is high and one shot is with "long" 440grs bullet. All other shots are with "light" shortened REAL bullet

Otherwise clustering is very correct



http://i73.servimg.com/u/f73/11/02/14/58/00213.jpg


If the shooter does his part this pistol can be quite accurate ; and a blast to shoot REAL bullets !!!!!!!!!

Dframe
July 21, 2013, 12:29 PM
Looks great. I love shooting flintlocks. They'll severely test your "followthrough" and often greatly improve your shooting with modern guns.

AJumbo
July 21, 2013, 01:48 PM
I have one I've never fired; good thing, as now I'm going to take a hard look at the relationship between the cock and frizzen.

I note you're using a .560 ball; what does your bore measure, and is it rifled? (Mine is.)

FreddyKruger
July 22, 2013, 04:58 AM
I've got one. one guy at the range is always whinging about how it's all wrong and won't shoot, but as long as the flint is sharp it's fine. .575 ball, 5thou patch and 25gr 2F.

I will have a look at getting the hammer modified. that does look better. I will post a pic of mine when I get home.

mykeal
July 22, 2013, 07:31 AM
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Pedersoli%20Harpers%20Ferry%20pistol/70007.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/mykealsm/media/Guns/Pedersoli%20Harpers%20Ferry%20pistol/70007.jpg.html)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Pedersoli%20Harpers%20Ferry%20pistol/P8070013.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/mykealsm/media/Guns/Pedersoli%20Harpers%20Ferry%20pistol/P8070013.jpg.html)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Pedersoli%20Harpers%20Ferry%20pistol/P8070050.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/mykealsm/media/Guns/Pedersoli%20Harpers%20Ferry%20pistol/P8070050.jpg.html)

mykeal
July 22, 2013, 08:06 AM
If you don't mind my using your photo, here's a direct comparison of the hammers:]
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/mykealsm/Guns/Pedersoli%20Harpers%20Ferry%20pistol/Hammercompare_zpse8e8aeab.jpg (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/mykealsm/media/Guns/Pedersoli%20Harpers%20Ferry%20pistol/Hammercompare_zpse8e8aeab.jpg.html)

FreddyKruger
July 22, 2013, 09:03 AM
Argh too slow.... mine is exactly like the one on the right.

It does like to do this tho!

http://i.imgur.com/1ECW8VZ.jpg



Am i reading right that you are using 50gr of FFg and 30gr filler? The Pedersoli manual lists 40gr max with a .575 round ball...

BCRider
July 23, 2013, 02:13 AM
I was also wondering at the nature of the issue with the cock. Mykeal, thanks muchly for the side by side pictures.

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