Silly Beretta question, does such a gun exist?
Correia
November 21, 2003, 02:59 PM
I'm not a Beretta person, and I'm not sure if what I'm describing exists. I didn't see it on their webpage.
Is there a 92 variant with a Vertec frame, frame mounted (1911 style) safety? Possibly single action only?
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10-Ring
November 21, 2003, 03:14 PM
Not stock there isn't ;) Prolly not even in the custom world either :rolleyes come to think of it.
Correia
November 21, 2003, 03:23 PM
Now I have seen a Beretta with a frame mounted safety, I believe it was the M98. I have it in a Dutch reference book, going to have to find it now.
prisoner6
November 21, 2003, 03:29 PM
Earlier versions of the 92 series did indeed have frame mounted safeties, though they mostly weren't SA. The Billenium has one I believe. Many of the 80 series did/do as well. But since the Vertecs are rather new, they came well after the switch to slide mounted safeties.
Shake
November 21, 2003, 03:38 PM
http://www.berettaworld.com/Moduli/ContentManager/publicimg/DSCF0029_maxi.jpg
No Vertec frame. . .
Shake
10-Ring
November 21, 2003, 04:42 PM
Shake, what is that? I wouldn't mind having one :cool: Looks like a Brig slide on a standard frame w/ a frame mounted safety...:cool:
Cableman
November 21, 2003, 05:42 PM
http://www.cybershooters.org/images/SHOT%20show%202002/Billennium.jpg
Beretta Billennium - limited edition only 1000 in the USA
Single action only, frame mounted safety. Nickle alloy steel frame and slide. Carbon Fiber grips. A beautiful Beretta. Hard to find now, but they do show up on the auction sites now and then.
I paid $1100 for mine NIB, and still haven't shot it yet.
More information here - http://www.berettaweb.com/Billennium/Beretta%2092%20Billennium.htm
clubsoda22
November 21, 2003, 05:43 PM
I hate slide mounted safeties, which is why i bought a taurus.
Mastrogiacomo
November 21, 2003, 07:40 PM
These guys can tell you all about the various models of Beretta -- real and imagined...:D
www.berettaforum.net
Shake
November 21, 2003, 09:41 PM
Hey 10-Ring,
The pistol is the Beretta 92 Stock. I've seen it in Beretta catalogs, but as far as I know they do not exist in the U.S.?? The guys on the Beretta forum might know more about them. I'm not sure why they don't sell them in the U.S., because I assume they would be a big hit with the frame mounted safety.
Here are the specs and a manual in Italian (anyone speak Italian?). . .
http://www.berettaworld.com/index.aspx?m=53&did=121
http://www.beretta.it/pdf_2002/Nuovi/Serie92_Stock-Combat/Serie92_Stock-Combat_ITA.PDF
Shake
Skunkabilly
November 22, 2003, 12:48 AM
They don't import them, but Beretta USA makes some pretty silly decisions like not selling 92Gs to the masses ('but you have the Elite!! :rolleyes: ) and discontinuing the Centurion, even if the customer wants them.
They don't even advertise half the stuff they come out with. I get a couple PMs a month asking 'is that a Beretta' when I post pics of Nina because Beretta didn't put it on their website until a few months ago :banghead:
Jeff OTMG
November 22, 2003, 11:42 PM
I have a picture of that gun posted from the SHOT Show back in Feb 2003. It is a Vertec version of a Billinium. Unfortunately my site seems to be down right now or I would post the link.
Skunkabilly
November 23, 2003, 02:32 AM
Where the heck is that thing anyway? :rolleyes:
WonderNine
November 23, 2003, 03:03 AM
They don't import them, but Beretta USA makes some pretty silly decisions like not selling 92Gs to the masses ('but you have the Elite!! ) and discontinuing the Centurion, even if the customer wants them.
They don't even advertise half the stuff they come out with. I get a couple PMs a month asking 'is that a Beretta' when I post pics of Nina because Beretta didn't put it on their website until a few months ago
Skunk, I think the best we can hope for is that Beretta will once again sometime in the near future become a SMALLER company fixated on quality control and superior workmanship.
And that Italian pride thing wouldn't hurt either.
Majic
November 23, 2003, 05:21 AM
At one time the 92's had a frame mounted safety. That's why Taurus has a frame mounted safety. They bought the old Beretta factory in Brazil to make their pistols. Beretta then went to the slide mounted safety.
Jeff OTMG
November 24, 2003, 08:22 PM
Okay, my site is back up. Story is in the Beretta paragraph.
http://www.shotshowreports.com/2003pg1.html
For those just interested in the photo:
http://www.shotshowreports.com/images/2003/steelVertec.jpg
Skunkabilly
November 25, 2003, 01:00 AM
Now if they ever start making the damn things :rolleyes:
Penman
November 25, 2003, 07:51 PM
The original M92 had the frame mounted safety, and allowed for condition one carry. This had the rounded trigger guard profile. The next model came out with the slidemounted safety and continued with the rounded trigger guard (M92S?). The next version continued with the slide mounted safety and had the squared front on the trigger guard.
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