[2nd Amendment]

"Charlton Heston announced again today that he is suffering from Alzheimer's."

Another parasite on the Do Not Watch List. :banghead:

NY Post article (http://www.nypost.com/seven/01192003/gossip/liz.htm) :rolleyes:

[QKRTHNU]

I was going to say that it was just a joke (Pretty funny one too :D ). But............

When I asked the actor if this was going too far, he said simply, "I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the National Rifle Association; he deserves whatever anyone says about him."
:fire:

(Clooney is a heavy hitter against the gun lobby.) He's also graphically and fully informed about world events and embraces the label "political liberal," saying he grew up thinking that's what we were supposed to be in a democracy.
And someone needs to tell this dumbass that this country is not and has never been a "democracy". :rolleyes:

[Tady45]

I heard and saw his statements today on The O'Reilly Factor. Just another stiking hypocrite making fun of ones illness because he does not like his stand on RKBA. I am sick of this, and these liberal money loving pigs, who run around with gun in hand on screen, (making millions) and then lambast the people who have decided to protect their own with real firearms... I mean what is George Clooney without a gun in his hand in a film anyway?


Larry

[DeltaElite]

George who?
You mean people actually watch this guys work?

Let's get him a plane ticket so he can be a human shield in Iraq. :neener:

[Atticus]

"George Clooney shoots his mouth off"

I wish!

[2dogs]

More liberal sewage from Hollywaste.

Really, we need to deal with the world thusly:

1. Iraq

2. Iran

3. N Korea

4. France

5. PRK

Yeah, just take them all out. The world will be better off, no I'm sure.:neener:

[Maestro]

Narcissus could take lessons from this guy.Self infatuated and rich.Must have a house full of mirrors.Age is what?....Maybe 40.No wife...no children that I ever heard of.You read into that what you wish.If Heston is fair game then so is this man.He'll never be half the man Heston is.



Edited by Ten Bears so as to be less offensive to those with different leanings than myself.My anger is subsiding.

[cuchulainn]

Clooney was wrong for taking glee in the terminal illness of someone he disagrees with politically, but so are we when we make "hack-hack" jokes against Sarah Brady.

[Gray Peterson]

Age is what?....Maybe 40.No wife...no children that I ever heard of.Maybe he is...dare I write this....GAY!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Careful, Ten Bears, using gay as a method of insult could cause you problems. See sig line.

As for your other points, George Clooney will never ever measure up to Charlton Heston in terms of integrity....such as it is.

[longeyes]

And why do the media heavyweights give these entertainment lightweights a forum for their unconsidered, often adolescent remarks? What gives these people presumed expertise? All of this is part of the same disease.

[DeltaElite]

If Clooney is gay, then he is a disgrace to all homosexuals.
Not to mention the human race as a whole. :neener:

[Joe Demko]

Censure Clooney when you start censuring yourselves for making cancer jokes about Sarah Brady and fat jokes about Rosie O'Donnel. I disagree with Clooney's politics and have yet to see him in a movie I liked, but he did nothing I haven't seen done here or at TFL a billion times.

[2dogs]

cancer jokes about Sarah Brady and fat jokes about Rosie O'Donnel

Alzheimers and cancer- no.

Fat- yes.:scrutiny:

[cuchulainn]

Fat- yes.

Whether or not fat jokes descend to the level of cancer or Alzheimer jokes, they do nothing but make us look immature and incapable of launching logical attacks (they are ad hominem).

Fat jokes do nothing to advance the RKBA, but they make us look bad to neutral watchers.

[4v50 Gary]

Clooney creates his own kharma. If you have to see a Clooney flick, rent it and invite as many people over. Minimize the profits for the movie producer.

[DonP]

I think his acting career peaked when he played Blair's love interest on Facts of Life.

He's another example of a hollywood type, that gets a quick taste of high profile fame and fan adulation, starts to believe his own press releases and shoots himself in the foot using his mouth for a weapon.

He's getting a few mill$ a movie now, just like Alec Baldwin used to, (Alec who?) ... my point exactly.

Clooney now feels he is part of the hollywood elite and needs to help the poor, unwashed masses understand what's best for us based on his extensive and deep wisdom and insight. He forgot that it's us poor ignorant slobs that pay his salary ... or don't.

He is already getting a bit long in the tooth for the teenage and "Gen Next" crowd. Remember, he left ER because he was too big for the show. Remember how great that was for David Caruso's career when he left NYPD Blue?

(Ala South Park when Ike escaped from the alien spaceship: "Ike jump, jump ... Ike, do your impression of David Caruso's career, AAAHHHhhhhhh, plop".)

He's on my "Susan Sarandon Memorial list" of idiots that I don't really want to watch or listen to.

Don P.

[ScottsGT]

OK, No fat jokes too! I now feel insulted that you can pick on us that way. We can't help it. McD's keeps putting in all that stuff that keeps getting us addicted to it. I think it is called lard?? ;)
BTW, I am in excess of 300#, so I have the right to make fun of "my own kind"! :evil:
Clooney is just trying to stay in the media. Can't make a good movie, and this is the only way he knows how.

[2dogs]

Fat jokes do nothing to advance the RKBA, but they make us look bad to neutral watchers.

First, I think that there is a difference between jokes told publicly about conditions which are deadly and over which people have no control, and jokes told publicly about conditions over which people do have control. As for jokes told privately- no holds barred. They're jokes- get it?

Secondly, I don't much care what "neutral watchers" think of me.

Third, maybe a sense of humor will do more to advance RKBA than all of the "thank you veddy much" pseudo intellectual pontificating that seems to infect many in the debate.:D





Edited for clarity.

[cuchulainn]

First, I think that there is a difference between jokes told publicly about conditions which are deadly and over which people have no control, and jokes told publicly about conditions over which people do have control. I agree. I acknowledged as much

Secondly, I don't much care what "neutral watchers" think of me. It's not what they think of you personally, but what they think of RKBA supporters. We're fighting an uphill battle against the media's portrayal of us as unthinking rednecks. Laughing at someone because she is fat only confirms that prejudice against us.

Third, maybe a sense of humor will do more to advance RKBA than all of the "thank you veddy much" pseudo intellectual pontificating that seems to infect many in the debate. Humor? Yes. But attacking people personally does nothing but make us seem like we have nothing legitimate to say.

Fat jokes against Rosie are the equivalent of "compensating for small member" jokes from their side.

[2dogs]

Fat jokes against Rosie are the equivalent of "compensating for small member" jokes from their side.


Actually, they aren't unless the "small member" jokes are aimed at an individual and not a group.

As a gunowner, if I am fat, should I go on a diet; if I smoke should I quit; if I drink beer or eat meat should I stop; if I drive an SUV should I trade it for a bicycle; in short is there anything that I, personally, should do so as to appear positive in the eyes of "neutral observers" and not reflect badly on the RKBA crowd?


Hey, tell me a funny gunowner joke and I'll laugh every time.:)




Edited for additional thoughts on the matter.

[cuchulainn]

BTW, I am in excess of 300#, so I have the right to make fun of "my own kind"! Yes, but if an gun-grabber attacked the RKBA by laughing at your weight, it would do nothing but make the gun-grabber look petty, immature and lacking of any argument against your point.

It works the same when we attack Rosie's weight.

[King]

Clooney talks his talk but that's all he does. He should not take roles in movies that depict gun use or misuse if that's his opinion.......it does not become him.

If I met him personally, I would ask hm how he can make such statements and then act in movies like "Dusk Till Dawn" and some of these others.

[cuchulainn]

Oh, and Sarah Brady did have control over her condition. She chose to smoke just as much as Rosie chose to eat. Rosie's weight probably will kill her prematurely. Why are the deadly results of one lifestyle choice fair game but not the deadly results of another lifestyle choice?

[MJRW]

I'm trying to remember what movies he didn't play an armed criminal in. He did in From Dusk Till Dawn, Oceans Eleven, Out of Sight, Curdled, Three Kings and played a criminal (I can't remember if he was armed) in O Brother Where Art Thou. He was armed in The Peacemaker, The Thin Red Line, and pseudo armed in Batman and Robin. The only thing I remember ever seeing where he wasn't armed was in One Fine Day and ER. I can understand people being against themselves owning them. I can even marginally accept people being opposed to them. But what I can't understand is someone who is so opposed to firearms yet has and continues to make their career on them. Its like the burglar going on neighborhood watch.

[2dogs]

Oh, and Sarah Brady did have control over her condition. She chose to smoke just as much as Rosie chose to eat. Rosie's weight probably will kill her prematurely. Why are the deadly results of one lifestyle choice fair game but not the deadly results of another lifestyle choice?

Sarah smoked, Sarah has cancer and will die. Not funny, but true.

Chuck has Alzheimer's, probably thru no fault of his own. Not funny, but true.

Rosie is fat, she could eat less/exercise more like any of us can, and probably avoid problems in the future. She also has a fat mouth. Funny.

I guess you weren't a Don Rickles, Robin Williams, Red Skelton or any other comedian's fan?:D

P.S. I do not make fun of fat individuals, or anyone else. But "fat people" as a general concept- hey much like Jimmy Durante I suffer from a prominent proboscis, a magnificent schnozzola.

Laugh away.

[cuchulainn]

I guess you weren't a Don Rickles, Robin Williams, Red Skelton or any other comedian's fan?

P.S. I do not make fun of fat individuals, or anyone else. But "fat people" as a general concept- hey much like Jimmy Durante I suffer from a prominent proboscis, a magnificent schnozzola.

Ah-hah. Yes there are differences among:

1) Making jokes about fatness in general (yep, can be funny ... final scene of "The Meaning of Life" is a riot. "Just one waffer thin mint?")

2) Making fun of fat individuals like Rosie. (You wrote: "P.S. I do not make fun of fat individuals")

3) Pretending that a person's political views are wrong because she is overweight (this one edited for clarity).

I'm glad to see that I've moved you away from defending #2 and #3, which you were doing earlier. You've learned something today.

Rosie is fat, she could eat less/exercise more like any of us can, and probably avoid problems in the future. You could have said the same thing about Sarah's smoking when Sarah was Rosie's age. I guess you'll stop laughing when Rosie is on her death bed with a weight related heart condition or terminal diabetes.

[QuickDraw]

Sadly,I like his movies.Or did.Now I know what a stupida$$ he really is.
Another one for the "I won't watch him again" list.
In Perfect Storm he wasn't armed,well, he did shoot that shark
with a shotgun.
Remember when Princess Di was killed?Clooney was out in
the media whining how it was the presses fault for hounding
"celebrities"(himself included).
What a maroon. :rolleyes:

QuickDraw

[NeverAgain26]

I heard the Liberals are looking for an"Angry Liberal' to host talk shows so they can compete with talk radio hosts like Rush and Sean Hannity because they have done so much to advance the Conservative cause. Clooney could be trying to be setting himself up for the part.

Rush had a great line on his show yesterday about Clooney and his associations. Unfortunately I can't mention it without stirring up some debate on the Right to Life issue (and as strongly as I feel on that issue, I do not want to muck up the waters on this post).

NA26

[2dogs]

I guess you'll stop laughing when Rosie is on her death bed with a weight related heart condition or terminal diabetes.

Exactly. :D



See, you learned something today too.....................;)








Edited to edit.

[CZ-75]

The way Clooney shoots his mouth off indiscriminately, you can understand where he's coming from on gun control.

If he can't and won't use his brain before speaking, then I expect he knows his limitations with regard to guns and has made an error in projecting those limitations onto others.

Personally, I think he deserves what he gets from this incident and should have no career, to borrow the spirit of his own comments.

The guy isn't in the same league as Heston as a thespian (One is an Oscar winner and starred in numerous movies; the other had bit parts on soap operas for a decade before ER and a fitful career in the movies.) and you can see the jealousy of that along with the indignation at not holding the "right" views.

If it weren't for soccer mommies getting hotpants for the guy, he'd have been written out of the script after a season or two on ER.

[2dogs]

I think he deserves what he gets from this incident and should have no career,



$$$ talk. I see maybe one movie a year now, ususally I get the DVD (relative works in video store, I get them free). I refuse to pay for my own demise, and Clooney and his ilk seem h#ll bent on demising me. Let him get a real job (jeez, sounds so paternal).

For free, their movies are worth something.:fire: