Starbucks: Vote for Free Coffee for OCers


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archigos
March 10, 2010, 06:34 PM
I realize that I'm the one who originally posted this, but I still think its a worthwhile thing for which to vote.

mystarbucksidea.force.com/ideaView?id=08750000000GoIMAA0

P.S. Please don't post any actual links to this, as I don't want it to be tracked back to THR. Please copy and paste the URL into your browser.

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tack
March 11, 2010, 08:22 AM
You must register to vote. Sign in for your starbucks.com account.
NOT

kd7nqb
March 11, 2010, 12:08 PM
voted in yours and the several other gun related ideas on the site.

hmphargh
March 11, 2010, 04:27 PM
Done, you might also search for "gun" and vote appropriately on those suggestions.

smithmax
March 11, 2010, 05:26 PM
I took hmpgargh advice and searched for all the gun related topics. Kind of 'funny' seeing how upset some of the yuppies are about guns in the stores.

archigos
March 12, 2010, 01:17 AM
It looks like a ton of the anti-gun ones got removed. Hmm. :)

zoom6zoom
March 12, 2010, 04:32 PM
Heck, half the time they try to give me my coffee free now because they think I'm a cop.

Anyone who would mistake me for a cop either has bad eyesight or thinks the local departments have really relaxed their physical standards.

Neverwinter
March 13, 2010, 07:57 PM
While I can see the parallels between the free coffee for voting, I wouldn't agree unless it was limited to one day. Maybe December 15.

hso
March 14, 2010, 09:33 AM
You're going to have most people think it's enough that we're not discriminated against. Better to have their staff receive training on the legality of OC.

LibShooter
March 14, 2010, 01:04 PM
I agree with hso. It's enough that Starbucks recognize or right to keep and bear arms. They don't owe us free stuff.

hso
March 14, 2010, 01:07 PM
Mar 03, 2010
Starbucks Position on Open Carry Gun Laws
SEATTLE, March 03, 2010 - We recognize that there is significant and genuine passion surrounding the issue of open carry weapons laws. Advocacy groups from both sides of this issue have chosen to use Starbucks as a way to draw attention to their positions.

While we deeply respect the views of all our customers, Starbucks long-standing approach to this issue remains unchanged. We comply with local laws and statutes in all the communities we serve. In this case, 43 of the 50 U.S. states have open carry weapon laws. Where these laws don’t exist, we comply with laws that prohibit the open carrying of weapons. The political, policy and legal debates around these issues belong in the legislatures and courts, not in our stores.

At the same time, we have a security protocol for any threatening situation that might occur in our stores. Partners are trained to call law enforcement as situations arise. We will continuously review our procedures to ensure the highest safety guidelines are in place and we will continue to work closely with law enforcement.

We have examined this issue through the lens of partner (employee) and customer safety. Were we to adopt a policy different from local laws allowing open carry, we would be forced to require our partners to ask law abiding customers to leave our stores, putting our partners in an unfair and potentially unsafe position.

As the public debate continues, we are asking all interested parties to refrain from putting Starbucks or our partners into the middle of this divisive issue. As a company, we are extremely sensitive to the issue of gun violence in our society. Our Starbucks family knows all too well the dangers that exist when guns are used irresponsibly and illegally. Without minimizing this unfortunate reality, we believe that supporting local laws is the right way for us to ensure a safe environment for both partners and customers.

Guns and more
March 14, 2010, 01:48 PM
Be happy you can BUY coffee at a place that allows open carrry. Support those businesses by paying and hope the others learn.

mec
March 14, 2010, 02:10 PM
Wanting special treatment -free merchandise is going a bit too far. The concern is merely trying to conduct its business in a businesslike manner and stay out of the political free-for-all It is not making a partisan statement in favor of Open or any other type of carry.

LouisCipher777
March 14, 2010, 03:04 PM
seems to me that asking for free stuff because you are carrying a firearm is exactly the opposite of the image we should be promoting. Some might see it as extortion. "Give me free stuff because I have a gun."

I would have voted "no" on the poll but I was too lazy to sign up.

thorn-
March 14, 2010, 03:19 PM
I don't have an account, but I would vote NO as well.

Just the thought of this being a poll makes me feel a sense of disgust. It's as if an OCer feels some sense of entitlement - and I'm not a big fan of entitlements. I don't support public employees getting freebies for merely walking in, and I certainly wouldn't ask for it myself.

thorn

mec
March 14, 2010, 03:37 PM
I was too lazy to sign up
thereby saving yourself a future filled with spam e-mails

ahpd1992
March 14, 2010, 03:51 PM
I think asking for a freebie is going a bit too far. Starbucks took a risk by simply not making a social statement as many other corporations have. I for one would frequent Starbucks based on this statement if only their coffee tasted as good as Dunkin Donuts ; )

Starbucks has made its fortunes as a company by selling the urban/green/yuppie type of experience. I am quite suprised they havent given in to polical will from the left as many corporations have.

For disclosure purposes I own several hundred shares of Starbucks (SBUX) and I feel they are a well managed company. I am glad Starbucks has for lack of a better term taken "the high road" on this issue, as political statements are frought with risk. I think Starbucks decision to respect local laws and not restrict CCW permit or Open Carry permit holders in their business is enough for all of us, at least it is enough for me. I dont need to pressure them for a free cup of joe.

Of course I have a vested interest in encouraging that the profit margins are maintained at a company I own an interest in (albiet a small one)

I think Im changing my sig line to "Support your local Starbucks"
Tom

archigos
March 14, 2010, 04:47 PM
Just the thought of this being a poll makes me feel a sense of disgust. It's as if an OCer feels some sense of entitlement - and I'm not a big fan of entitlements. I don't support public employees getting freebies for merely walking in, and I certainly wouldn't ask for it myself.
I made the poll. I don't open carry, but the people who do are more courageous than me.

thorn-
March 14, 2010, 05:09 PM
I don't understand what's courageous about open carrying... I could strap on OWB holster right now and go to the store, but I'm not sure how that makes me a courageous person. Well-armed, yes. More comfy than IWB, sure. But I'm not getting the public-service aspect of it.

thorn

hso
March 14, 2010, 05:26 PM
Might be best to debate the merits of this in AD.

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