Mini Shot/Bloomberg says it's OK


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Golden_006
March 15, 2010, 11:01 AM
I just got my NY City permit (long gun only) from Mini Shot (Ministry of Shotgun and Rifle division aka Bureau of Shotgun and Rifle).

If the permit weren't bad enough -- which incidentally has my picture and fingerprint on it -- you would not believe the registration cards they gave me. It says in all caps "5 ROUNDS ONLY" and there is a 1 gun per 90 days limit. LOL.

I can't wait to go to some dealers and look at PC guns from the milquetoast city dealers that won't show you anything without a permit after work. Thankfully I have other hobbys and firearms isn't one of my favorites but Jeezus. :rolleyes:

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Justin
March 15, 2010, 11:05 AM
Thankfully I have other hobbys and firearms isn't one of my favorites but Jeezus.

Those words.

They're plainly English, yet they make no sense. ;)

Robert
March 15, 2010, 11:08 AM
firearms isn't one of my favorites but Jeezus.
I'll give them a good home and won't even charge you to take them in.

happygeek
March 15, 2010, 11:19 AM
5 rounds only? I'm lucky to live in a free state and am curious what that means. Are you only allowed to own 5 round mags?

Golden_006
March 15, 2010, 11:30 AM
Yeah you can have 5 rounders or you have to get it plugged to five. I was hoping that only counted against semi auto but it appears to be the case for all. I guess I'll just get a Ruger Mini and maybe a shotgun for home defense and maybe like a Mauser or get an SKS flush mag or maybe a Garand with the 5 round clips and be done with it. Although any 2 of those things will probably stretch my budget so the 90 day thing doesn't matter too much in my case. And actually now that I read that back it doesn't sound too bad especially compared with other countries laws. I thnk I could be happy with a few of those guns I just mentioned. I guess I'll just buy more clips/mags . . .

heeler
March 15, 2010, 11:56 AM
Let me get this straight.....You NEED a permit complete with a license with your picture and fingerprint on it just to own a long gun in NYC???
For real???
Good Lord!!!!!!!!

Yosemite Sam
March 15, 2010, 12:00 PM
Let's see...

* 5 Round limit
* 1 purchase every 90 days
* Registration
* Permit to purchase

Sounds unconstitutional to me. Incorporation, hurry up.

hnk45acp
March 15, 2010, 12:10 PM
Let me get this straight.....You NEED a permit complete with a license with your picture and fingerprint on it just to own a long gun in NYC???
For real???
yes and it takes up to 3 months to get it

griz
March 15, 2010, 12:18 PM
You can't own anything that holds more than five rounds? What do you do if you have a 100 year old Colt SAA, can you just load five or do you have to plug one chamber of the cylinder?

winknplink
March 15, 2010, 12:21 PM
I'm lucky to live in a free state

Luck has little to do with it...people are still free to move about this country.

And ain't it funny how the free-er states are filling up quickly these days.

My career suffers living here. My children aren't afforded the best of the best in education living here. But, by God, I am free to live my life as a human here in a state that backs my right to own firearms and defend myself with them.

Priorities, sacrifices...no complaining.

gym
March 15, 2010, 12:56 PM
You guys who aren't familiar with the NY gun laws will have a heart attack if you read what you have to go through to get anything. So I won't even start. Having lived there and having had a "carry permit" for 20 years, I can attest to the "hoops" one must jump through to get even a rifle/shotgun permit. They just don't want "citizens" to have guns period. Than if they give you a license for a business, "which is very rare and almost impossible to fulfill the requirements for". You have to give it back if you sell the business. You get the permit for at the pleasure of the city, it's not a right in NY. When I left in 1994, I timed it with my move to FL, "when I finalized the sale of my business, so I wouldn't have to be unarmed after 20+ years. I then turned in my 2 handguns to my local precinct, who sent them down to a LEO in FL, where I picked them up upon moving. Meanwhile most people have a gun in their house, in NY, so the whole thing is just so stupid. It's the politicians again, we have to get them out of office and restore logical, rational thinking to the legal system.

hnk45acp
March 15, 2010, 01:40 PM
You can't own anything that holds more than five rounds? What do you do if you have a 100 year old Colt SAA, can you just load five or do you have to plug one chamber of the cylinder?
that's for a longgun and yes, you will have to stick a rod down your Winchester lever action to comply

griz
March 15, 2010, 01:44 PM
OK, I see that it's a long gun deal now. Thanks for the info.

So five rounds in a rifle and no handguns? That must be why NY is so crime free.

Golden_006
March 15, 2010, 02:04 PM
no there's another set of applications/permit process for handguns for hunting, your business, your home etc. Technically you can even apply for a ccw but no one except some celebrity ever does since it's like throwing money in the garbage.

happygeek
March 15, 2010, 02:53 PM
Huh, guess the gangbangers didn't get the memo on handguns. Strange.

It continues to baffle me why anyone other than power hungry elitists think CCP holders are something to fear. Even the VPC claims CCP holders are responsible for something like 107 killings in an over 2 year period. So, 107 out of over 26,000 murders in those 2 years, sounds to me like the VPC is making the case that a CCP holder is less likely to commit murder than the average joe ... and that's if you believe the VPC's number.

Sure, I voluntarily paid $60 and stood in line for 30 minutes to give the county cops my fingerprints, ID, and address so I could later commit a crime. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile the criminals continue to buy their handguns on the corner and stick them in their waistband or pockets whenever they feel like it.

Also, if you favor taking away everyone's rights in the hope of stopping a future mass shooting you're in favor of "commonsense regulations/restrictions", but if you favor carrying a sidearm in order to defend yourself and others in the event of a future mass shooting then you're a paranoid gun toting nut :rolleyes:

Mr.Davis
March 15, 2010, 05:03 PM
Get out of New York, please. Take your tax dollars and leave these elitist bastions to those who prefer unarmed serfs, and join us in the free states, the lands of the "F-" Brady Bunch scores, low crime, and high freedom!

hnk45acp
March 15, 2010, 05:04 PM
Ya don't need to tell us this is bull, we have to deal with this crap. I'm hoping after McDonald is settled law we can get rid of some if not all these stupid restrictions. Please stop with the leave NY stuff, if we could most would but we have families and jobs, kids in school, careers and friends here.

NG VI
March 15, 2010, 05:10 PM
It continues to baffle me why anyone other than power hungry elitists think CCP holders are something to fear. Even the VPC claims CCP holders are responsible for something like 107 killings in an over 2 year period. So, 107 out of over 26,000 murders in those 2 years, sounds to me like the VPC is making the case that a CCP holder is less likely to commit murder than the average joe ... and that's if you believe the VPC's number.


They are probably including suicides in that 107.

Mr.Davis
March 15, 2010, 05:25 PM
Ya don't need to tell us this is bull, we have to deal with this crap. I'm hoping after McDonald is settled law we can get rid of some if not all these stupid restrictions. Please stop with the leave NY stuff, if we could most would but we have families and jobs, kids in school, careers and friends here.
I do have great respect for those who are willing to stay and actively fight for their rights in states like California, Maryland, and New York. I just have a problem with those who complain about restrictions on their rights but keep sending the same politicians to office.

They are probably including suicides in that 107.
They do. They also include CCW owners who have been accused of crimes, but not convicted. Some haven't even had their trials begun yet.

It's lying with statistics at its worst.

spartywrx
March 15, 2010, 08:33 PM
Get a elephant gun. Something like a .470 nitro magnum (assuming .50 bmg is illegal)

Hey Bloomie! It only holds two rounds but it shoots through engine blocks!

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