Need ideas for "High speed" video at the range


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Stradawhovious
March 15, 2010, 06:16 PM
Hello everyone, it's been a while since I posted here, but I need your help. I purchased a new digital camera with "hgh speed" capabilities. I'm not talking Mythbusters 1,000,000 frames per second, but very impressive for a $150 camera. I'm homing to get some neat video at the range, but need some Ideas. once I get this eye candy, it will be posted to youtube to share with all. The rules are simple....... Nothing that will get my range membership pulled. this means nothing hazardous, and nothing permanent.

The following videos were taken at the range last weekend, and as far as I'm concerned, are pretty darned impressive fro a cheapo camera. I'm looking to add a whole bunch more like this to my collection. So far the majority of people offering suggestions are recommending produce hit with high velocity varmint loads, so that is in the works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlrZetzp4yQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxyDt3nDf2A

Thanks in advance for your ideas!

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FIVETWOSEVEN
March 15, 2010, 06:19 PM
got a machine gun?

Stradawhovious
March 15, 2010, 06:20 PM
Nope, My state poses too many hurdles to make owning such a toy feasible. :mad:

Cosmoline
March 15, 2010, 06:27 PM
Wow! My digital cost more than that and looks pretty cruddy. The technology just keeps getting better.

Mr.Davis
March 15, 2010, 08:49 PM
When you said "High Speed" I thought you meant "High Speed Low Drag", haha.

These are very cool shots.

If you're allowed to draw then fire at your range, try a Tueller drill while the slow-mo shows the target advancing.

Navy_Guns
March 15, 2010, 09:00 PM
It might not look great without a really fast camera, but aiming a high-speed camera at a glass mirror and shooting the mirror looks pretty neat. It usually requires a tarp, and having your camera down range though...

LaserSpot
March 15, 2010, 09:31 PM
Nice video! How about a 12 gauge load of buckshot hitting a gallon of milk?

I'm not sure how to keep your camera dry and safely get close enough. You may need to make a box with a window and a remote button pusher.

Stradawhovious
March 16, 2010, 02:32 PM
12ga and milk. I like that one. :D

Thanks for the ideas everyone! Rest assured, shen it happens, I will be posting again. Don't hesitate to keep the ideas coming!

JohnBT
March 16, 2010, 04:22 PM
I want to get one of these for a little point of view blasting.

"Sportsman 440 Eyewear
Video Recorder ● Digital Camera

Our Dual Technology Eyewear take beautiful, sharp, clear 720 x 480 resolution video and digital pictures!"

http://aftonarms.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=35&zenid=009d3c8ae2d4d7ba842cd1e1fc45338d

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm25/troutgabby/HFV4.jpg

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 16, 2010, 06:14 PM
what about a Browning Auto-5? got one of them?

Stradawhovious
March 16, 2010, 06:43 PM
Sadly, no. I will try to get my hands on one though....... :)

wally
March 16, 2010, 10:47 PM
Here are some I did with my Casio EX FS-20 at 1000 frames/sec.

http://cid-5a242a1eb30332b3.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/MyTest?uc=3&lc=1033

I like how the airsoft recoil points the muzzle down because the slide momentum is so much greater than the plastic pellet.

I need to do some of my Chiappwa 1911-22 to see why it stovepipes a couple of times per magazine. Weather has been awful lately, too muddy where I shoot from all the rain :(


--wally.

LaserSpot
March 17, 2010, 12:47 AM
Nice videos wally! It looks like you're not a lefty though

Ragnar Danneskjold
March 17, 2010, 01:15 AM
JohnBT, do you have any idea on the durability of those video glasses? I'm looking for a high quality/durable but small and wearable video recorder to come with to Afghanistan. But I don't wanna get some junky "back of Boys Life magazine ad" crap and have it fall apart on me while over.

captainofiron
March 17, 2010, 02:02 AM
Maybe film a close up of your trigger pull?

That would be practical.

MarineOne
March 17, 2010, 08:11 AM
Shoot various fruits on high speed film with different calibers. Oranges, grapefruit, tomatoes, cantelope, watermelon, etc..

JohnBT
March 17, 2010, 09:27 AM
"JohnBT, do you have any idea on the durability of those video glasses?"

No sir, I certainly don't. The owner of Afton Arms seems to be a great guy and I bet he would know. He works from home I believe so reaching him shouldn't be too hard.

I bought a Sig X-5 Tactical from Afton Arms at a gun show. I haven't gotten by his house yet to visit, but he lives about 100 miles away west of me.

John

Ditchtiger
March 17, 2010, 10:25 AM
How about shooting an egg with a soft air or a paintball gun

Officers'Wife
March 17, 2010, 11:29 AM
Hmmm, I wonder what would happen to a block of dry ice hit by a fast projectile... Would the ball heat up enough to convert the 'wound channel' to gas?

ClayInTX
March 17, 2010, 11:58 AM
Strad,

Name of camera, please. I want one!

SASS#23149
March 17, 2010, 12:28 PM
Those were done with a 150.00 camera? awesome !!!

yes,make and model please !

Stradawhovious
March 17, 2010, 02:07 PM
The camera is a Casio Elixim EX-FS10. I think it was $160 after shipping from one of the Big Box stores website. It's a great deal, but it's terrible in low light conditions, for both pictures and videos. Small price to pay though......

hoodfu
March 17, 2010, 02:11 PM
3rded on the camera request. Samsung video cameras can do 200fps at a decent resolution, but faster than that and the resolution gets too low to see anything.

AzBuckfever
March 17, 2010, 02:24 PM
Man that is awesome....I would probably saying something downrange as well. Maybe even shoot a steel target and catch the bullet fragment/implode if it'll do it....The apple exploding stuff has been done a million times but, use your imagination :) Can't wait to see more vids. I love slow mo stuff.

Stradawhovious
March 17, 2010, 02:26 PM
Another nice thing about the camera is that you can get some pretty clear images by stopping the video frame by frame and saving a screen shot. For example....

wally
March 17, 2010, 10:23 PM
It looks like you're not a lefty though

Correct, but I usually do about 15-25% of my shooting at the range left handed. It was hard to hold the camera and the gun at the same time. Higher powered guns definitely would require an assistant.

--wally.

Blakenzy
March 19, 2010, 03:39 AM
I'm homing to get some neat video at the range, but need some Ideas.

You could compare the muzzle flip/barrel rise of different firearms chambered in the same caliber. Or of different calibers in the same model firearm. Or anything in between. Does a .380 pistol rise much more than a .38 snub? You can use a cardboard with lines on it as a background, for reference.

Calibre44
March 19, 2010, 02:49 PM
Very impressive ... congrats! I would suggest anything containing water as a target.

hoodfu
March 19, 2010, 08:14 PM
Sold on the couple of videos you made, I picked up one of those cameras. I took a quick video of a friend kicking a small plastic garbage can at 420 fps and it's hilarious how it compresses and then goes flying. :D

spartanpride
March 19, 2010, 08:30 PM
I think it would be cool to see an AK shot with the top cover off so you can see loading, ejecting etc. Maybe put the camera so you can view it from the top or something? Hmm... just an idea.

captainofiron
March 20, 2010, 02:15 PM
I think it would be cool to see an AK shot with the top cover off so you can see loading, ejecting etc. Maybe put the camera so you can view it from the top or something? Hmm... just an idea.

Ask, and you shall receive!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p5YZLICfyM

captainofiron
March 20, 2010, 02:20 PM
Double post on accident

hoodfu
March 21, 2010, 02:48 AM
Ok, I took the camera to the range and here's the video of my Benelli M4 failing to cycle in rather hilarious form, as shell after shell gets smashed by the bolt. I was trying Winchester #8 birdshot which is obviously underpowered for this gun. The slow mo effect is really neat here as the casings get squished. :banghead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzuC3SXXPl0

Ingsoc75
March 22, 2010, 09:27 AM
I've got the FC-100 model of the Casio series and have used it for high speed shooting many times.

Here is a 210 fps movie I created last month: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW-X5cHBelc

Stradawhovious
March 30, 2010, 04:14 PM
A couple more for your viewing pleasure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwyR5hb0TQI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGLS2Zw3rHo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttgYTu3L0j8

And here is rare footage of a Scorpion actually making it through an entire mag without jamming. I know. I'm as flabbergasted as you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tYANO_gcyo

franconialocal
March 30, 2010, 06:38 PM
I'll join you sir! I just picked up a new Canon Rebel T2i that shoots full 1080p (or lower) movies as well. As soon as it comes I'll try to post some fun stuff as well for THR. Here is a SAMPLE VIDEO (not gun related) that shows how nice the video is. http://vimeo.com/9744624 I can't wait to apply it to shooting videos/pics.

Keep checking back!

-Chris

hoodfu
March 31, 2010, 12:10 AM
franconialocal, the video quality is amazing on that rebel. I couldn't tell, does it have slow motion ability? 210 frames per second etc? or was that done on the computer afterwards?

Ingsoc75
March 31, 2010, 09:20 AM
AFAIK, it doesn't do anything higher than 60fps.

Stradawhovious
March 31, 2010, 10:25 AM
I'm pretty sure that Casio is the only company out there that produces everyday consumer priced digitals that do high speed video.

For what it's worth, the casio I'm using shoots in high def as well as high speed, but unfortunately not both at the same time.

franconialocal
March 31, 2010, 11:02 AM
No...most of the effects (slow motion, reverse, etc.) were done afterwards with the video edit software (unknown). The caption in grey below the video says that he just took it out of box and started shooting, no color correction or anything. Should look great!

OP...I tried to look for the "slow motion" option on windows movie maker but could not find it. Any help? I want to post some video of my Springer EMP in slow motion because it's been getting so much press on this site and the short action should look really crisp.

I also want to do some slow motion work with my long guns as well and possibly some slow motion "hits" when we do simmunition training if I can clear it with the trainers first. Should be interesting as long as I don't get paint all over the lens *lol*. I'll probably shoot video through a pane of glass or plexi for this for a shield.
More to come!

MattTheHat
March 31, 2010, 01:10 PM
Tannerite would make a good subject. I've captured it on a cell phone video and that's pretty cool. In high speed it would be downright cool!

-Matt

Ingsoc75
March 31, 2010, 10:53 PM
Right now, the Casio EX-F1 (http://exilim.casio.com/products_exf1.shtml) is the best out there. It can do 512 x 384 (300 fps) and all the way up to 1200 (336 x 96). It's pricey though at around $999. It's been out since 2008 so I imagine they will release a new one (with a higher resolution) soon.

A few other companies are starting to release the high speed feature on cameras and I wouldn't be surprised if it's a standard feature in the future.

franconialocal, did you buy the basic Canon 550 kit? How much did it cost if I may ask?

hoodfu
April 1, 2010, 03:36 AM
Wow, that EX-F1 is awesome. Other than it being higher res and more frames per second 210 vs. 300, it even records in h264 video files. I'm definitely jumping on whatever replaces it.

Skillet
April 1, 2010, 03:52 AM
How about making some ballistics gel? Or get some potatoes or any other fruit. If it looks cool in real speed when you shoot it, imagine looking at a bullet exploding a tomato or potato or whatever else in slow-mo? That would be pretty sweet. Also, try shooting at some steak or pork slabs, some electronics, some metal cans, a full can of beef stew or something, paintballs, little ceramic tiles, plastic water jugs, watermelons, man the list of fun things to shoot is endless! Also, that camera would be great for finding any flaws in shooting stance or technique.

franconialocal
April 1, 2010, 10:12 AM
I bought the 550 kit (Rebel T2i here in the states) with a standard 18-55mm lens, charger, battery, software, etc. for $880.00 on E-Bay.
Very reasonable price as far as I could find. I've seen them selling for as high as $1,200. They recommend using a level 6 SD card or better (I ordered a 32GB level 10 card for $100.00 on E-bay) for the HD video. I've done a few test shots with a 8GB level 4 card and it's been working ok. I think the problem will arise when it's transferred/viewed on a computer (skipping/sluggish) unless you use a level 6 or better.

I like that thought/idea about shooting some ballistic gel too....didn't think of that one. My pit is closed at the moment (owner) due to mud season *gotta love NH*, but as soon as it dries out I'll be shooting some video to share.

Ingsoc75
April 1, 2010, 10:28 AM
This is a quick compilation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMuAPqHdDkk) I put together of some stuff I shot last month.

Guns and more
April 1, 2010, 07:18 PM
Nice video!
Whoever held the camera did a great job, but I'd recommend a tripod.
I can't tell you how many videos are on YouTube with the camera waving all over.
(you know who you are.)

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