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uspJ
March 16, 2010, 10:43 AM
i'm in the market for a new 1911. my budget is $700. what would be the best bang for my buck in that price range.

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Mitch from LA
March 16, 2010, 11:14 AM
I'm a big fan of the pt1911. Nice trigger, no hiccups, alot of the bells and whistles folks really seem to want on a 1911 at a decent price. I also hear good things about the STI Spartan and the RIA tactical. Some folks really seem to like the S&W offerings.

conhntr
March 16, 2010, 11:15 AM
used colt

Old Shooter
March 16, 2010, 11:27 AM
You're nipping at the heels of a new Colt, mayby add something in a trade?

RIA's are great bargins for less than $500 new.

Sapper771
March 16, 2010, 11:28 AM
For Range and target use: STI Spartan.
For carry and all around use: Used Colt 1991/ Springfield Mil-Spec 1911.

rellascout
March 16, 2010, 11:36 AM
Used Colt

Demitrios
March 16, 2010, 12:30 PM
I second the Spartan. Also RIA is a great pistol for uder $400, in which case you can take that extra $300 and buy ammo or reloading equipment.

Quack
March 16, 2010, 03:18 PM
STI Spartan, or depending on your area, a Springfield Loaded Parkerized

BP Hunter
March 16, 2010, 04:23 PM
I just purchased a brand new Taurus PT1911 for $550. It has all the upgrades needed for it to be worth so much more. I am very pleased with it.

SSN Vet
March 16, 2010, 04:30 PM
used colt

Three months ago, I bought a brandy new stainless Colt Commander (1991a series) for $740.

You can pick one up in Blue for ~$30 less than that if you shop...

500 rounds later, the pistol has provided 100% flawless function

kk0g
March 16, 2010, 04:57 PM
Add another vote for the Taurus PT1911. I just bought a used one for $400, find a used one and spend the rest of the $700 on ammo or reloading components.

CoRoMo
March 16, 2010, 05:35 PM
Look for a Norinco. You can find new and used ones for far less than $700. Check the headspace and maybe swap out a few parts. Sights, grips, grip safety, as you like. By the time you get the total up to $700, you'll have a very fine, reliable AND durable 1911.

Zerodefect
March 16, 2010, 05:58 PM
Save up a little more and get a Colt or a DanWesson.

Full Metal Jacket
March 16, 2010, 06:50 PM
springfield champion.

Fremmer
March 16, 2010, 07:46 PM
Bud's has the Colt 1991 Government at about $730 or so. That's what I'd get. :cool:

SalchaketJoe
March 16, 2010, 08:05 PM
+1 on the Springfield Loaded parkerized. I just picked one up. Love the classic look, parkerized with wood grips, with nice to haves like Tritium sights and ambi safety.
Paid a little over that $700 at $715.

Oh, shoots dead on. 250 rounds so far with no problems with the pistol. One mag follower got stuck at the bottom the first three times used, but the problem seems to have worked itself out.

uspJ
March 16, 2010, 08:35 PM
the ria 1911's seem to be getting good reviews are they any more dependable than the taurus pt1911? i've seen some talking about the ambi-safety breaking on the taurus. i owned a mil-spec 1911 years ago and it was a great gun, even without all the bells and whistles of the taurus and ria would another mil-spec be a better value in the long run? this will not be my ccw and will not be designated for home defense unless i can't get to anything else at the time. this will primarily be a range gun and shot just for the enjoyment.


btw thanks for all the responses

Jimineer
March 16, 2010, 08:45 PM
This past weekend I purchased my first 1911, a Colt Defender, 3" barrel. I really like the idea of a 1911 I can comfortably carry. A little out of the price range you indicated but not by much. I too was looking in the $700 range but after handling everything from Kimbers, SA, Colt, etc., I decided I just wouldn't be happy with a bare bones 1911 - not that the Defender is fully loaded (so to speak). Anyway, I felt like it was a good value for what I got and it just felt better than any of the Kimbers. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, and hopefully I won't experience any of the issues I've read about the under 4" 1911's. Common complaint is that the Defenders throw out spent cartridges back at your head but I'll deal with that one way or another. So if you are looking for something for CC give the Defender a look. I've read many good reviews of it.

Mitch from LA
March 16, 2010, 08:54 PM
the ria 1911's seem to be getting good reviews are they any more dependable than the taurus pt1911? i've seen some talking about the ambi-safety breaking on the taurus. i owned a mil-spec 1911 years ago and it was a great gun, even without all the bells and whistles of the taurus and ria would another mil-spec be a better value in the long run? this will not be my ccw and will not be designated for home defense unless i can't get to anything else at the time. this will primarily be a range gun and shot just for the enjoyment.


btw thanks for all the responses
My Taurus has been very reliable. In my opinion the Taurus is probably the best value going, but many people swear by the Springfield Milspec. When it comes to 1911's you have folks that swear by Colt, folks who think a good one can't be had for less than $1500, folks who hate Kimber, and folks that realize there are several budget-friendly offerings that said folks are very happy with.

FM12
March 16, 2010, 09:03 PM
Smith & Weson by far!!Best bang for the buck, no doubt.

Pilot
March 16, 2010, 09:26 PM
Like others have said a new Colt basic series 80 Gov't model can be had in blue for around your budget.

NMGonzo
March 16, 2010, 09:31 PM
Used pre 80's colt.

nulfisin
March 16, 2010, 10:22 PM
I have both the Taurus PT1911 (just under $600) and Springfield Loaded in stainless (just under $800). The Taurus isn't fit quite as tightly and the trigger is merely adequate. That said, the Taurus is less picky about the ammo I feed it and is a great value.

jahwarrior
March 16, 2010, 10:27 PM
i've shot the Taurus PT1911, the RIA Tactical, a Colt Officer's, and a Para GI Expert. i own the Taurus, and carry it everday.

HexHead
March 16, 2010, 10:29 PM
Colt.

TexasPatriot.308
March 16, 2010, 10:35 PM
Para G.I. Expert

bobelk99
March 16, 2010, 10:39 PM
Go used, and get higher quality for same $$.

Go 1911 and whatever brand pleases your hand and eye.

GRIZ22
March 16, 2010, 10:49 PM
I'll give the Taurus another vote. I've had mine for 3 years and think it's a tremoendous bargain. No problems, zero malfunctions. Springfields also seem to be a good buy but I don't own one. All the other 1911s I own are Colts but the Taurus is the one I carry.

bhhacker
March 18, 2010, 10:23 AM
I was a little dissatisfied with my Spartan. I bought it and it never fed HPs reliably. I live about 15 minutes from the STI facilities and took it in for that reason. They were very nice, and polished the feed ramp and such, but it still had trouble. Had t use PowRballs

uspJ
March 19, 2010, 08:23 AM
i was telling a guy that i work with about my plans on buying a 1911 he told me i should go with a cheap model and upgrade the parts with wilson combat parts. i was wondering would this be worth the time and money or would i be better off just getting a more expensive model and having quality parts to begin with?

BushyGuy
March 19, 2010, 08:36 AM
you can find a Citadel 1911 for under 700.00

rklessdriver
March 19, 2010, 08:41 AM
Buy the best pistol you can afford to start with.

That cheap pistol will ALWAYS be just a cheap pistol with hi-speed Wilson parts hung off it.

With your $700 budget a used COLT or possibally new COLT is easily in reach. I bought my new 80 Series Commander for $730 (out the door) last year, from a well know dealer here in VA at a gun show.

A Springfield Mil Spec or GI model is a very good pistol for slightly less money. As long as your not bothered by the NOT made in USA bug there is absolutely nothing wrong with them.

These would be my top 4 choices for the $$$ you have to spend. There are lesser pistols out there (for lesser $$$) - but remember for every $$$ you drop in price you get more MIM small parts and/or get a CAST frame instead of a Forged frame. Not to say they can't be good guns (because some will be) but like I said in the first line, my advice is to buy the best pistol you can to start.
Will

Water-Man
March 19, 2010, 09:02 AM
Used Springfield Loaded.

JTQ
March 19, 2010, 11:04 AM
...he told me i should go with a cheap model and upgrade the parts with wilson combat parts.
If you were a gunsmith, that is probably a pretty good way to go. Since you are asking the question, I'll assume you aren't a gunsmith. I'm not either. Most 1911 parts don't just drop in. I would probably just leave it as is, especially if it is working.

There are good and bad things about buying used.

On the good side, lots of folks buy a 1911 and after realizing it soooo much harder to take down than their Glock, or realize how expensive .45 ACP ammo is compared to 9 MM, or realized they don't like Condition 1 carry (still safer than their Glock), they sell them off quickly. If you find those, they are usually quite a bargain.

On the bad side, as mentioned above about parts not fitting, almost no pistol is modified more than a 1911. Many of those modifications are done by people that are not gunsmiths, and they don't know they aren't. Many of those pistols will cost a bunch of money to fix, even if you are a gunsmith.

The Armscor products have a very good customer service reputation, as does STI, Springfield and S&W (if you can find one at that price).

For me, I'd save up a little longer and buy a Colt.

SSN Vet
March 19, 2010, 01:24 PM
Most 1911 parts don't just drop in.

words of wisdom...

and... if improperly fitted, many 1911 parts replacements can make your pistol unsafe.

mptrimshop
March 19, 2010, 01:38 PM
you want bang for your buck...this is the way to go!

http://www.midwesthuntersoutlet.com/item.aspx?PID=72694&w=PQ%2BJDyOLrQE%3D

flusher
March 19, 2010, 07:01 PM
Save up and get a Colt Government pre 70. This one is a 1951

bigfatdave
March 20, 2010, 09:36 AM
and... if improperly fitted, many 1911 parts replacements can make your pistol unsafe.
How hard would it be to swap out an ambi safety for a RH-only one?
I'm about sold on a SA loaded, the only thing I don't like about it is the ambi safety, and I've been contemplating doing a swap after initial break-in and reliability testing. I really don't have the facilities/tools for serious gunsmithing, however. If it can't be done with a basic toolkit or if it takes more know-how than detail stripping my current 1911 (Citadel officer's size) or a Ruger mkIII (done a few of those with success) then I'll have to reconsider my next 1911 purchase.

Quack
March 20, 2010, 09:40 AM
it's not hard to do. here's some instructions.

http://brazoscustom.com/magart/0601.htm

and this is how the safety works.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/hautlipz/1911_cutaway_thumb_safety_blocking_.jpg

bigfatdave
March 20, 2010, 09:59 AM
Thanks, Quack, that helps some ... but is a replacement safety lever a "drop-in" part or will it require fitting?
I've had my Citadel down to bare frame a few times, but I've obviously never swapped in a new one, and I don't know if there's any issues with swapping ambi for RH-only.

Quack
March 20, 2010, 10:04 AM
from all the safeties i've done, the only fitting needed was where the safety blocks the sear.

bigfatdave
March 20, 2010, 10:06 AM
So a jeweler's file and some patience would be enough?

Quack
March 20, 2010, 10:29 AM
that should work.
just remember to go slow & check often because you can't put metal back on, but you can take more off.

bigfatdave
March 20, 2010, 01:20 PM
Would it be unusual for an aftermarket safety to NOT need fitting?
And is anything internally incompatible in an ambidextrous safety equipped gun that would preclude swapping to a RH-only lever?

Girodin
March 20, 2010, 03:10 PM
- but remember for every $$$ you drop in price you get more MIM small parts and/or get a CAST frame instead of a Forged frame.

Not forcedly. One can buy a used Norinco for one half to a third the price of a Kimber (depending on the model); which gun do you think has more MIM parts? Furthermore, the Norc's frame is not cast but rather it is 5100 steel.

Quack
March 20, 2010, 03:44 PM
Would it be unusual for an aftermarket safety to NOT need fitting?
And is anything internally incompatible in an ambidextrous safety equipped gun that would preclude swapping to a RH-only lever?

they should all need some fitting.

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