VA FIRE MISSION - Hit this poll!!!


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rkbaguy
March 17, 2010, 01:47 PM
VA FIRE MISSION - Hit this poll!!!

Police chiefs want governor to veto ABC establishment carry

http://hamptonroads.com/2010/03/states-police-chiefs-seek-veto-gunsinbars-bill

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wishin
March 17, 2010, 04:15 PM
SB334's requirement that anybody with a gun is prohibited from drinking and could be charged with a misdemeanor is "absurd," Jacocks said, and can't be enforced.

They're out to lunch. If it's concealed, what's the problem? That's currently the law in Georgia and we don't have a problem with gun crazies in places that sell alcohol.

Dominus
March 17, 2010, 05:43 PM
Voted...

bikerdoc
March 17, 2010, 05:51 PM
Done

If your not a VCDL member you should be!

Officers'Wife
March 17, 2010, 06:39 PM
Actually I would vote yes on such a law provided it was applied across the board and not simply to concealed carry.

labhound
March 17, 2010, 06:41 PM
Voted. Currently 75% to 23% in favor of approval.

steven58
March 17, 2010, 06:45 PM
Voted. We seem to be WAY ahead. Keep it up!

rkbaguy
March 17, 2010, 06:45 PM
Actually I would vote yes on such a law provided it was applied across the board and not simply to concealed carry.

Can you clarify what you mean?

Do you realize that Virginia ALREADY allows OPEN-CARRY in alcohol establishments?
It is ONLY the CCW-folks who have been getting shafted by the prohibition.

This soon-to-be law will solve that.

It sounds like you have some sort of objection.
Can you clarify?

Vern Humphrey
March 17, 2010, 07:49 PM
Do you realize that Virginia ALREADY allows OPEN-CARRY in alcohol establishments?
Yes. There are two laws involved. The CCW law prohibits CCW in establishments that sell liquor. The much older open carry law has no such prohibition. For years, Virginians have simply been taking off their jackets when going into restaurants which serve alcohol, converting from CCW to open carry while in the restaurant.
It is ONLY the CCW-folks who have been getting shafted by the prohibition.
Yep -- and a stupid prohibition it is.

ironduke
March 17, 2010, 08:05 PM
80%!!!

alohachris
March 17, 2010, 08:21 PM
I hit it in the 10 Ring....

Ohio Gun Guy
March 17, 2010, 08:37 PM
Hit it,

511

2400 ;)

Officers'Wife
March 17, 2010, 08:43 PM
Can you clarify what you mean?

Do you realize that Virginia ALREADY allows OPEN-CARRY in alcohol establishments?
It is ONLY the CCW-folks who have been getting shafted by the prohibition.

Simple, only a fool would put firearms and alcohol together. BATF is a prime example.
(Sorry, couldn't resist. )

If the concern was alcohol fueled 'shootouts' firearms themselves would not be allowed. The fact that they target only conceal carry tells me the agenda is not public safety but some stupid political message. Political messages should not have the force of law.

verdun59
March 17, 2010, 08:52 PM
Being from Virginia I can remember when we had the same kind of scare tactics about serving "liquor by the drink" in restaurants, and how the streets would be full of staggering drunks. Funny it didn't turn out that way.....

Officers'Wife
March 17, 2010, 09:26 PM
and how the streets would be full of staggering drunks.

False dilemma, the favorite fallacy of police, politicians and protestant ministers everywhere.

KarenTOC
March 18, 2010, 12:18 AM
as of 11:15 pm:
Should Gov. Bob McDonnell veto or approve a bill easing concealed weapons laws?

Veto..................14% (556 votes)
Approve.............85% (3374 votes)
The bill needs more
modification......1% (48 votes)
Total votes:.......3978

Somewhat related issue: Went to the library today, and there were folk out front getting signatures on a petition for a guy who wants to run for Congress. I asked "who is he?" The answer: "a conservative Republican." I asked if he was pro-gun or anti-gun. They said "Pro! Easy question!" So I signed the petition.

Now I wish I could remember the guy's name.....

Southern Rebel
March 18, 2010, 12:48 AM
Voted

SR

DFW1911
March 18, 2010, 01:17 AM
Poll Question

Should Gov. Bob McDonnell veto or approve a bill easing concealed weapons laws?

Veto
14% (569 votes)

Approve
85% (3477 votes)

The bill needs more modification
1% (49 votes)

Total votes: 4095

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